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You obviously miss Mark's rants about progressives and those that attend the church of environmentalist, various posters against liberals, etc. Just saying".
I never called you a racist, and I repeatedly stated you have the right to state your opinion. That being said, how sad to have so much and yet disparage so many…. especially when you don't even know them.
35+ yrs working with the poor of all backgrounds, 25+ of those with primarily CO youth. I knew the strenghts and weakness, the history, the dreams and the barriers of approx 10,000 youth during my career. I went to their homes, was with them when death, birth, marriage, divorce and other circumstances of life occurred and unfortuantely attended the funneral of a few. Slavery is not the cause, altho is it a historical factor. My personal opinion is what followed slavery was much more damaging (Jim Crow and the modern day Jom Crow-incarceration). The rules were clear during slavery, with emancipation there were no rules. I saw the judicial system mistreat, I also saw it being way to lenient. The bottom line, poor/working poor folks are not in that condition due to laziness, lack of character or any of the other degrading terms. As far as the War on Poverty, I suspect your knowledge is limited to facts put out by those that want to frame it as a failure. Some parts of it worked better than others, but unless you have personal knowledge of it's programs, I would suggest you not deem it a failure. Many individuals were given hope and many were able to lift themselves out of their circumstances….. unfortuantely to be replaced by others displaced by loss of economic opportunity due to jobs shipped overseas, modernizion and all the other factors that have impacted employment opportunites in the US. Our economic system dictates that we have losers, many more than winners. Lastly, just FYI, I do not support "welfare" if that means giving somebody something for nothing….. never works, but then again, telling someone to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" doesn't help either.
It's not just cities or blacks, but here goes. Lack of economic opportunity and mass incarceration are 2 major factors, if not THE factors. I worked with inner city youth, mostly from CO cities, for 25+ yrs. We trained, we educated, we taught middle class work values only to find there weren't jobs available. Have you ever tried to get an employer to hire someone that has a felony conviction? a drug (MJ) charge? These conditions leave little hope, so if asked the biggest contributor, I would say it's a lack of hope. In retrospect, that is what I taught the most….hope. Unfortunately, it was most often misplaced hope. The best chance that I saw for a youth to escape the poverty cycle was the military and unfortunately, I encourage many, many youth to follow that path. I saw the same thing working for the military in Europe. A far disproportionate number of young enlistees were from poor backgrounds. Again, lack of oportunity in the legal economy, vast opportunites in the illegal economy and mass incarceration are the root causes, IMO.
As I stated to Mark, anyone can go on an internet search and find something that will support/negate whatever it is their agenda dictates. Dr Williams has an opinion….. an informed but agenda driven opinion (libertarian) That doesn't make it a fact or reality based. You didn't take the quote far enough to show what he thinks the causes are so the context of his statement is missing. How about we apply the Climate Change deniers logic to this….. what causes the failure of the black family unit is "unsettled." Save us both a lot of time seaching the internet in support of our positions. I don't claim to know the depths of the impact of Jim Crow, massive incarcerations, etc., but to deny substantial impact, to me, is not reasonable in any sense of the word. If the father figure is dead or in jail, it's tough to keep the family unit together.
Just how are you supporting diversity with your generalized (usually derogatory) statements regarding various subgroups of our culture? Are you saying that your hate statements should be recognized as diversity? I may agree with you….. until you or those that agree with your stance want to taek away another's rights as an American citizen. There's the rub….. Again, it's not what you say as much as how you say it. The beautiful thing is I don't have to interact with you unless I choose to. You, on the other hand, have to live with you every day. Of course I would suspect you to feel the same about me. True diversity!
So are you saying centuries of slavery didn't have an impact on the family structures of the black community? How about JIm Crow? How about incarceration, the new Jim Crow? What city has been run by progressives……not democrats….. progressives? What is the progressive platform? For the last time (from me anyway) your hatred and anger come out loud and clear. You have been asked by myself and others, just how many in the groups you hate do you know in depth? How many poor, of color, of alternative sexual persuasion….. let me make it easier. How many folks that are not like you do you know in depth? Yet you blame, insult, imply negative motives, name call, etc. It's not your opinion that is being questioned, it's how you present it.
Thank you. Pointing that out was the purpose of my first post. You said it with much more precision than I did.
Nice try. You imply someone is not "tolerant" because they point out your intolerance. The thing is, most folks are tolerant of your lack of tolerance, they just don't want it to become law. It's America. One can be as hateful and bigoted as they want….. as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights…… as an American.
We already "sanction" polygamy. Visit Colorado City, Hillsdale and some of the other known polygamist communities. They are fully integrated into society. I see them all the time in Walgreens, WalMart, etc. No one calls the law, refuses them service, or even bats an eye. That being said, who cares? If someone wants more than one spouse and every one involved consents, who cares. The gay community doesn't want the government involved in their marriage, they want you and your like to stay out of it. Simple, isn't it.
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