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No, I am not blind and until you read the article your opinion on what it states is irrelevant…. the same as your rants. Just because someone says something you disagree with does not mean you can be rude….. and I'm not thin skinned….. you are simply a rude man. LV exist, it will continue to exist ( along with Phoenix, LA, SD, the farmers, Mexico etc) and they at least have had the courage to address the impact of their existence on the water usage of the CO Basin and to explore solutions rather than berate. You might want to try it sometime.
I'm not sure of the logic of building more dams seeing as the ones that have created Mead and Powell have ample storage capacity. The problem is not enough water, not not enough dams. That being said, there is an excellent article in the March 2 issue of High Country News on what has been done over the past quarter century and what is being done now to utilize the Colorado basin water in the most efficient way. Some very smart folks have been working on the issue for a long, long time. Pat Mulroy, former water "Czar" of Las Vegas, may some day be credited for saving the west because of her work over the last 25 yrs.
Dan K-I have no idea if the President is a bigot, but I do know he holds certain people up as examples of overcoming adversity for his political advantage with no plans of expanding on what made it possible for those individuals to overcome. There are some in our society that have a stage where they will use such examples to put down those not fortunate enough to escape their circumstances. Those that can't pull themselves up are weak, lack character, etc. Such statements relieve any guilt or feeling of societal responsibility for those that "lack".
Tom W-true story.. you can rant all you want without any obligation to put forth solutions. You can also tell yourself that "INDIVIDUALS" have the capacity to "excel" beyond whatever station that "INDIVIDUAL" may find themselves in. May you never experience circumstances that will challenge that opinion. Being as free as you are, I WILL tell you this belief is a fantasy for many, many people in our society and in the world……. but keep telling yourself that fantasy.
We agree again Tom, but probably for different reasons. I learned early in my career that giving somebody something for nothing is never a good idea, whether it's subsidies to a corporation for "blessing" us with jobs or a single mother stuggling to make ends meet. That being said, government is not the only devil in the room. Our corporate capitalism and consumerism requires winners and losers…. many more of the latter than the former. The "illegals" are illegal because of poor immigration laws and our corporate capitalism that requires hiring for the cheapest price. Remember that for every job an "illegal" takes, some "fine" American must hire them. Despite what you may think, illegals give much more than they take. (unless their employer is paying under that table they are paying taxes which they will never recieve benefits from). While I agree with your last statement, I don't see you offering a realistic alternative. Lastly, "welfare" in all its forms supplements the economy of the poor, it is not it's driving force. If it is removed, they will find a way to replace that infusion of cash. Society may not like they way they do it, but do it they will. Just like any economic structure would. We as a society have created the poor/working poor class and they will survive any way they can….. regardless of how we discount them. Until we "own" the problem we created and develop realistic, effective solutions, they will continue to survive in their own way. Demonizing them, having laws the make them "criminals", and all the other ways we prevent them from entering our world is not and never has been a solution. It simple perpetuates the issues.
I read all the comments and in my humble everyone is missing the reality. The poor (be they black, white, whatever, but color does magnify everything)) live in a very different USA than you or I. They have their own economy, their own rules, mores, expectations of life, their own enforcers, reasons and ways of enforcement. To inject main stream society rules, values and expected behaviors onto their "yard" only illustrates this. From the outside, it seems violent, self defeating and even suicidal, but to them it is their everyday life. (The same could be said of our world from a certain perspective.) Society has demonized them often making them criminal in our world thus forcing them to create a world that works for them. It is clear to them that we, as a society, have no need for them. (unless it's as soldiers, entertainers, athletes) Maybe it's always been this way and it's simply more in your face because of tech. Before some of you get on your high horses and talk about personal responsibility, character flaw, etc may I suggest you live in their world for a few years. Get to know some generational poor, some inner city, some rural and then make your judgement. I think you'll find smart, hardworking folks simply trying to make it thru life. They simply do it in ways "we" have said are illegal or agianst the mores of "civilized" society. Yes, a few "make it out". The shame of that is then they are held up to the world by the bigots as an example that it can happen and a guilting of everyone that hasn't been so fortunate. It is also true that some of our ancestors rose above poverty…it's no longer their world….the rules have changed. Just some thoughts based on 35+ years "playing in their yard". As they seem unable to survive in my world, I too seem unable to survive in theirs.
I certainly hope you dont think I'm "the mule" you hit. I've been called an a.s throughout my life (among many other things), but never a mule.
My apologies. Reading your posts over the months I would assume you do not watch Fox. It was your reference and that the speaking Mandrin line is a Fox chant. That was my point. I suspect we would agree on many things, one of them being that our "leaders" do not have to spend in a negative balance. However, spend they must and I would simply ask they do it more wisely. Of course, that's the problem…. to who's wisdom? We do not "borrow" money from China as much as they "invest" in the American economy and as long as it's the best game in town, they will continue to do so. The issue that keeps coming to me in reading folks on this forum is that government is corrupt… no doubt, but who is it that is doing the corrupting? Could it be America's version of the "free market"? Corporations/businesses that use their money to peddle influence. I agree that government is not functioning, but could the reason be that the business world is acting like a bunch of spoiled brats with big pockets….. a lot like the Hilton kids. There's actually a new defense now for rich kids when they do something wrong….affluenza or some such thing. They're so spoiled that they were never taught right from wrong. Like Wall Street?? As long as we as a nation have the prioritiy of profit above all else, we are lost….. IMHO of course. Cheers to you, too.
The National debt is a serious issue that at some point will come back to haunt us. That being said, to compare the US "check book" to an individual's is absurd. They have absolutely nothing in common. I don't know of any family that has to defend a country, support corporations, etc. The comment about China is equally absurd, as I suspect Tom knows. The break down of the US debt is: 64% is US based, 37% is foreign. Of that foreign portion, 8% is China, 7% is Japan. The largest holder of the debt is the Social Security fund. The "China" scare is all about fear mongering via Fox News.
Mark, John and Jerry. Thank you for your opinions, even tho I may not agree with them I do savor thinking about them. This could go on forever and we would be like the dog chasing it's tail.
I will ask you the same question I ask anyone when they refernece "God" as an answer to a question…. and to which of the many gods humans have believed in are you referring to? …. and why is yours more "right" than theirs? In another life I use to ask students who they admired and they would often reference a cultural hero such as Martin L King, Jesus, etc. At that point, I would ask them, "is your hero proud of you and the way you represent their beliefs?" I would ask you the same question of God's creation-humanity….. is God proud of what we have doneand continue to do to each other and the earth.. ie His creation. One last thing… if we are created in God's image and he loves us so much, how is it we are born evil and do such evil things. Why would he create evil? Pls don't go the free will argument.. that defies the all knowing God concept. A contradiction I have never heard the resolution of and I had the "pleasure" of many years of formal, daiiy religious training. Like I said, we can go on forever and I don't think any of us wish to do that. We chose what to believe in and rarely will that change by debate. These are just thoughts of what you so lovingly characterize as a "progressive"…. you know, the ones that have single handedly destroyed America and the world. Peace
Dang it………. eminent, not imminent. Same mistake twice. Rhys where were you when I needed you??
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