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You are kidding, right? Ever been to Short Creek, (Colorado City/Hindsdale) AZ/UT? They are their own law. There are many, many "towns" throughout the US that operate under FLDS law. Go to St George, UT. You will easily see citizens of FLDS and no one confronts or even pays attention, yet what goes on there is common knowledge. Remember when TX "took" hundreds of children from the FLDS compound where Jeff's was arrested. (for sex with an underage girl) They returned the children without paternity test that would have clearly proven rape of underage girls against the leaders, yet the test were not conducted. Heck, they don't even pay property taxes. I know SBS is a bubble, but outside that bubble real bad things go on in the US with the "approval" of those in power; county, state, federal and religious. Short Creek/FLDS is simply one of them.
How does FLDS fit into your "superior" values. It is a religion that is accepted by state and federal authorities. It forces women into subordinate roles with no rights, supports the forced marriages of woman and underaged girls, does not educate their youth, kicks young men out of the community to reduce "competition" for the females, confiscates property and families of those considered apostates and on and on. I suspect if some of the other "minority" religions in the US were looked at their values may not be considered "superior".
Thank you for the compliment and yes I do…. and yes to Scott's response below.
I simply asked a question. I did no investigation other than listen to the voice mail and look for the origin of the number because I didn't recognize it. I never claimed or insinuated you received any funds from anywhere. I simply asked a question based on your remark. The only reason I posed my question is because I got an unwanted phone call and I'm on the no call list. It was you that invaded my privacy, not the other way around. I have no vested interest in this race. BTW-I did notice that the voice claimed to be you. I wouldn't know if it was as I don't know you. You do know all caps is shouting.right? No need to shout. I can read.
Does this IMPORTANT FACT explain why I got a recorded call from you asking for my support from a Julesburg phone? Just wondering.
There you go with that "progressive" left again. Sorry, but I'm about as left as you can get yet I support the death penalty for definitive "monsters" with no appeals. (that or an island and a hand full of seeds to grow food) I don't support lawyers that twist the truth and/or split hairs to gain a verdict and I defintiely don't support our prison system. (privatization). Is it possible you confuse Democrats with Progressives? Both the left and the right have equal responsibility for our current legal system.
Actually we are almost to the point where fetal tissue is not needed….almost. PP did nothing illegal as has been shown in multiple investigations. Nothing private entities don't also do. Is it disgusting, yes, immoral, maybe, illegal, no. For some reason, for you, when a government agency does something it's wrong, but when a private entitiy does the same thing for profit it's okay.
I've never quite understood your definition of a "progressive", but by the standard def, I am definitely one and I believe in accountability for all, including corporations and governments. You didn't address holding private corps that are in the fetal tissue business and the treatments that the research has brought. Do you hold them accountable to the same level as PP? Do you reject any of the treatments developed by this research for you and yours? BTW-do you include corps on "government assistance" in your drug testing program? Those holding office? If you treat ALL receiving government money, then I have no problem with drug testing. If it's just the poor, no. What they get is a drop in the bucket.
I assume all those that want to shut down PP also want to shut down the corporations that buy their fetal tissue, the private companies that sell fetal tissue, and all the research facilities that use the tissue. I also assume that you will decline any treatment that fetal tissue reseach resulted in for yourself and your families.
I do have a question. In all the talk, all the debates about abortion, I never see the responsiblity of the male involved discused. Want to drastically reduce abortions? Hold the male 100% accountable for the financial well being of the baby and mother. With DNA testing it should be no problem identifying the father. As long as men get a free pass on preventing pregnancy and/or prividing financial support for the results of their actions, nothing, absolutely nothing, will change in the debate.
I can't believe I'm responding to any of your "fact based" post, but…… Trophy hunting is not a large part of Zimbabwi's tourist dollars, est is 3.2%. As it is not sustainable (there are only so many trophies) this is actually a losing propostion for the long run. Second, trophy hunting is never desirable for herd management as it "culls" the most desirable genes (the survivors/trophies ) and allows less desirable genes to reproduce resulting in weaker genes strains for the herd. Lastly, often times trophy hunting is done using drugs, traps, baiting, etc which is anything but hunting. I know of one such operation (now out of business) in Colorado personally. I am (was) a big game hunter for many years so I'm not anti-hunting. That being said, any hunter worth their salt never takes the prize of the herd. Only shoot the stupid ones was my motto.
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