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Well put raver!
While I respect your opinion I have to disagree with you on several fronts.
RobDouglas writes: "I, along with millions of Americans, grew up on a street far busier than Pamela Lane. In my case, a busy intersection with a far smaller yard than any on Pamela Lane"
If you knew the the history of Pamela Lane you would know that this neighborhood was a cul-de-sac and only changed to a limited access street later. Most urban planners would design parks and other high traffic areas such as this with multiple egress points thus limiting the load on feeder streets that were not designed for higher volumes of traffic. At the end of the day there are 24 homes on Pamela Lane that are impacted. If I were a resident of one of the 24 homes I too would be FURIOUS.
Assuming I built my home on the street it was a cul-de-sac when I purchased and built... traffic limited only to my neighbors and their visitors. Although one could argue that the 24 home owners should have done all in their power to demand multiple access points (which appears to be administratively impossible) However they did ask for concessions and they should be respected.
RobDouglas writes: "Engelken challenged the integrity of City Council and demanded the council uphold promises Engelken - as a member of a previous council - made to ban Triple Crown from Emerald Park. But, to demand that any legislature be bound by the actions of a previous legislature is sheer folly at best."
I can show you multiple instances in other locales where municipalities have been sued by residents and lost as a result of prior promises that they chose not to uphold. It could be codified in statute... guess the residents were naive to take the City (and an elected representiative) at its word.
There have been multiple posters that have had what seem to be very viable solutions to all parties' concerns. The movement of the railroad crossing seems to be a pretty solid one. From a traffic flow standpoint it also has many benefits for controlling traffic as there is already a left-turn lane off of Lincoln into the facilities. Considering the parking lot has spaces for 120 vehicles (clearly not enough for four fields) and overflow tends to go onto Pamela Lane this would (should TC subcontract with Hampton Inn) help minimize parking in the neighborhood as well.
I don't think that anyone can argue that TC benefits the Boat. The question is at what cost for that benefit and would other less disruptive visitors provide the same, if not more benefit.
Personally, I avoid town when I know TCers are in town.
Justathought. I echo your sentiments completely.
Hmmmm; bar owner (sorry it is much more of a bar than a restaurant; that is an after thought) that helped create the problems or a complacent whiner that quits when things don't go his way or when they get tough.
Not sure either has the kahunas to confront the issues in OC head on.
Love the growth platform. It is the only way to get Oak Creek out of its problems... but I would advocate commercial growth over residents. Residents are demanding... commercial pays for things that they don't use much... like infrastructure; police, fire, ambulances, sewage. They also collect taxes for you.
If we look at a front range city (that by the way is in financial peril) we can see that. The City of Centennial is nearly bankrupt... why? Because they have 70,000 residents and very little commercial development.
sbore; still want to argue that we are NOT in a recession http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/20/news/economy/recession_forecast/index.htm?cnn=yes. Wait, yes you do. You want to defend your views until March 31st when the quarter is officially over.
It is exactly the "we are not in a recession yet" attitude of you and others like you that drove us into it.
When the cost of my commute has nearly tripled since the war began it is going to trickle to the rest of the economy. Anyone who did not see this coming is simply wearing blinders.
A month or so you accused me of a "sky is falling" attitude. Take your blinders off man and admit that the emperor has no clothes.
I think the censure is very relevant... what good is a mayor that can't work well with their board and does things outside fo the process.
I am sorry, but I disagree with you. I think that the videotaping of public council meetings is a great idea... now if Larry could just find a way to stream his taping to the Internet then we would be in great shape. What a way to eliminate conspiracy theories!
PS. Upstream WELL SAID!
Aristocat. It makes a huge difference if the mayor cannot separate his personal financial needs and agendas from the needs of the community as a whole. It would appear that perhaps the board would agree with the appearance of conflict of interest based on recent actions. I am sure he is a great business man, but that does not necessarily equate to a great political leader... Ross Perot.
"What's good for the town is good for business"; not necessarily. When the economy of a town is largely focused on just a few businesses within a single sector (or on OC's case sub-sector) the two can often be in constant conflict.... especially if the town is in the process of transformation as Oak Creek is. (aka $500,000 houses)
Just take a look back at our history locally and throughout our state... We evolve and our businesses evolve with us.
Perhaps the heyday of a bar on every corner in Oak Creek is over and maybe we will start seeing a donut shop on every corner (jab). Or even better yet, maybe we will start seeing sustainable manufacturing and service industries appear in the community as a result of the high quality workforce that OC provides.
Don't hold on to the past man... the ride could be a fun one. Look at all of the towns that have re-vitalized themselves over the years.
I look forward to the day that I can comfortably own real estate in Oak Creek when the town is an amalgamation of businesses serving the community where a variety of customers and lifestyles are served. This is the only way to insulate a community against hard times in any given sector.
The bigger issue is to find leadership that is willing to make the very tough decisions to get Oak Creek to evolve and not stagnate like your neighbors to the South who seem more then comfortable watching their town slowly die.
AWESOME! Sounds like Oak Creek is heading down the right path already! Hopefully winds of change are coming.
Good to see the board stand up for the VERY OBVIOUS conflict of interest.
I do hope that the election is NOT about police (that would be very petty). There are much bigger issues in the town than the police... (a town of 500 really should not need two police officers regardless of who they are) like staving off bankruptcy, eliminating junk, attracting more solid businesses to get a good revenue stream going, fixing a reputation of poor adminstration... I could go on and on.
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