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No Scott you missed the point. Iowa has been trying to do it since 1983. This is important because during this time it was the state putting money and energy into innovative ideas while most of the country didn't care. Because they started so early they have up to 6000 jobs in the wind power energy field and pay farmers and land owners 14.6 million in lease payments. Their average cost per Kwh is .05-.08 cents. In 2004 they reached 5% but because of gov't investment they not only reached 25% but they sell energy to Wisconsin and Illinois. Things only take thirty years when nobody cares. I'm not saying I agree with the law. I'm saying these technologies work and the more we or private investors invest in this technology the better off we will all be. If the people in cities drove electric cars for there short commute and fossil fuels were used less for energy maybe those of us with gas engines would spend less at the pump. The leader in wind power is the oil rich state of Texas. Coal cost on average .04 cents a Kwh and natural gas is around .06. There are a lot of options out there and sometimes private industry that supplies a public good needs public investment to bring us to the next step. Just like oil.
Tell Iowa, Texas, south Dakota, Wyoming, and California that wind energy will only cost more. Iowa itself produced 25% of there energy from wind. They started this transformation in 1983. Today they have generated over 5 billion in private investments in their wind power interests. I don't know where you buy your fuel but oil has more than doubled since January of 2008, prior to the sharp rise from the spring of 2009 at $1.89/gal to $4.00/gal. In November. Natural gas has doubled in the last 6 weeks. Exxon is the most profitable company ever, reported last week. I think we as Americans can afford to use as many sources of energy as possible. Ask south shore stagecoach if their energy is working and how much it costs. The oil industry and the world needs and will get compititoon for sources of energy, and just like we the people have invested in fossil fuels it's time to continue our investment in all forms of energy so we can continue to lead the world in energy. Any other discussion is short sighted and idiotic. Which is where most of these discussions end up. Mr. Diesel didn't use oil when he came up with his fuel, he used plants. And Henry Fords cars ran on ethinol. In a innovative society the transformation and inventive state of energy is what makes us great.
Mr. Gangel, your point is correct. Unfortunately we are dealing with a uneducated society where facts and statistics mean nothing. Your job of identifying and helping the mentally ill is made easier by reading these posts. We also now know which of the local mentally ill have weapons. This will help relieve the pressure on our doctors while they try to help the government figure out who has guns. The interesting thing about it all is none of this makes a difference. If you folks spent as much time volunteering to causes you believe in as you do making up crap we would all live in a better place. The venom on these posts is what's wrong with society. Education is the first step to solving all our problems. Reading BS on the Internet is not education, get out of your houses turn off the screen and be active in making our world a better place. To all you gun carrying self protecting cowboys, while working for the Alaskan dept. of fish and game we were issued 44 mags. In my three years I only had to draw it on a 300lb halibut. The rest of the situations we encountered were best solved with firm reasonable discussion. While even being shot upon we were able to talk the gun away. So put your guns in a safe place before you trip and shoot yourself in the foot.
Yep, no doubt.
Burn all the books and movies! Yep no doubt. I vote mandatory gun safety cards for all those wishing to purchase guns or ammo. At least this way people know how to use guns. Also we can be safe while we wait for the worlds powers to take us all over. We could try mandatory two year military service for everyone. A trained society has its best opportunity to succeed, but of course it guaranties nothing.
Yep, I guess it's to hard for some of you guys to understand what I'm saying so I'll dumb it down. Since the sheriff wouldn't be able to enforce these new laws the whole thing doesn't make a difference. The sheriff didnt have to go on record and say anything. The laws are unenforceable. By the slim chance that someone did get arrested the door would open for judicial review. If this were to happen many of us believe the law would be struck down, thus being void. This wouldn't be a bad thing because it would get it to the courts. This is how we test new laws. I didn't make the rules but this is how it works. The sheriff talking about means nothing thus opening him up to weeks of discussion for no real gain.
Brian I've read a lot of your comments, the sheriff would do the best he can and if for some reason and some how he caught you, you could battle the courts for all of us. So step up let the sheriff catch you then go to court and get it thrown out for all of us. That's the way things are done in this country.
The proper way to deal with this law is for our sheriff to do his best to enforce the law he believes can not be enforced. If someone gets arrested in this process then that person goes to the courts and lets our judicial system decide its fate. There was no reason other then politics for the sheriff to say anything. Sometimes it's better to stay quite and let people assume your not so bright then to open your mouth and remove all possible doubt.
"can't make this stuff up" most of this thread is made up. It's like the Hidden star wars book the author didn't make into a movie because it was too far fetched. What gov't isn't divided. Where in the world is this happening. Gov't is about being divided. What Association of people do you guys know that aren't divided. Nothing is worse its the same and will continue to be the same while we sit on the Internet and argue rather than taking our views to the courts, schools, churches, clubs, Washington and the streets. The fears I see on this thread are a bit much. Where are the reasonable people. Oath keepers wtf. Good luck with that. For all of you that can't gaurd your property and liberty while you sleep let me know, I can drive out and watch the door while you rest. I've got guns too. Of course there will be a small monthly fee.
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