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When hell freezes over.
Mark no one has the capacity to fix it which is why it goes on decade after decade. All you have to do is look what is going on in Gaza. It just never ends.
I can only comment on one of your points because I have spent many years in the Middle East since the 1970's. "Obama foreign policy upset the apple cart in the Middle East" not the Republicans.
The Middle East has been a mess for decades way before Obama was born. It started with the creation of Israel after WW2 in the heart of Jerusalem which went against a promise made by FDR in 1944 to the King of Saudi Arabia when he gave us oil for the war effort. Jerusalem was supposed to remain an international city not in control of Israel or any nation.. In 1954 Pres. Eisenhower had the leader of Iran ousted and he was replaced with the Shah of Iran who sold us oil for weapons. This eventually caused the Iranian Revolution and the take over of the US Embassy. There was the 1967 and 1973 wars that LBJ and Nixon supported. Reagan supported Sadam in his war with Iran. Then there was Reagan's Iran Conta scandal that
followed. Reagan also supported the Taliban in Afghanistan after the Russian invasion.
Lastly the biggest foreign policy blunder was when G W. Bush invaded Iraq not Obama.
It was the most grossly mismanaged war since Vietnam which led to the sectarian warfare that continues today. It was Pres. Bush in 2008 who negotiated and signed the status of forces agreement with Malaki of Iraq that called for the total withdrawal of US troops in 2012 not Obama. There is plenty of blame to go around for the Middle East mess caused by both Republican and Democrat Administrations since WW2 but to say Obama caused it all is ridiculous. It will continue to be a mess in our lifetime and way into your great grand children's life time no matter who is President. .
I m not surprised.
Mark how many people are killed by the gov't scams you perceive? None that I know of. How many were killed or disabled by your buddy Cheney? The answer is thousands plus a few $Trillion on top of that.. That is the difference with his lies which is why he should be in jail or with LBJ. Now you know why neither G.W. Bush or S. Libby has talked to him since Jan. 2009. Maybe we should build another $750 Million embassy in Afghanistan too.
It was disgusting that he set foot in our town.
Rhys is right there is big money for a few in war. When I was in Vietnam our troops worked the mess halls as cooks etc. (KP-kitchen police) and took care of all types of services like electricians and plumbers. We did have some Vietnamese working the mess halls doing clean up duty at little cost.
In Iraq and Afghanistan it was all out sourced to a few defense contractors mainly a company called Halliburton. They were given no bid cost plus 10% contracts to provide all services. I knew a few people who took jobs in Iraq as plumbers on a one year contract. The base salary was $80K tax free for unskilled labor in the mess halls and over $100K and up based on specialty. When he arrived in Iraq he was one of 8 plumbers stationed on a USAF base. When they had a job all 8 would go out. One would work and the other 7 would watch. They would take turns over the year doing some work but there was never enough work for 2 plumbers let alone 8 but it was a cost plus 10% contract so the costs had to be inflated to maximize profit. This was why there were more civilian contractors in Iraq than our troops and this went on for 9 years. These 2 wars cost over $2 Trillion(all borrowed) with less than 1% of our population in uniform. As a comparison WW2 cost $4.1 Trillion in todays dollars with 14% of the population in uniform. There is also the case of the$100 million in cash that was flown to Iraq that is still missing. The Defense Contractors laughed all the way to the bank and our troops and their families cried all the way to the cemetery. And to make things worse the same people who got us in this mess(the darlings of the Steamboat Freedom Institute) in the first place want us to get back in. Wonder why?
My point was Cheney screwed Bush and Libby. To mention all lying Politicians on both sides of the Aisle would fill a book. My opinion of Cheney is the same as LBJ.
What I get out of this discussion is that all our problems started in Jan. 2009. For some reason I think if you compare where the country was in Jan. 2001 and compare it to where it was in Jan. 2009 you might come up with a different opinion. Has it got worse or better is a matter of opinion depending on your party affiliation.
Do all Politicians lie ? Only when their lips are moving. The biggest lie of the past decade or so came from from none other than Dick Cheney. All you have to do is go back and and look at his interviews on the Sunday morning news shows he made that cost the lives of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands or Iraqi's. His Deputy Scooter Libby took the fall for him over the so called African connection and he and his friends in the Defense Industry laughed all the way to the bank. Even FOX Megan Kelley in an interview just recently pointed out all his errors in judgement (lies) he had made which caught him totally off guard.
The Middle East is a total mess and has been for decades and the US policies under both Republican and Democratic Administrations have made things worse because we make decisions based on financial gain of a few. You can go back to the 1950's when we ousted the leader of Iran and installed a man who would sell us oil and we would sell them weapons, The Shah of Iran. The US supported Sadam in the 1980's because he was fighting Iran. The 19 Hijackers on 9/11 where mostly Saudi but they sell us oil and they buy our weapons. Our hand picked leader of Iraq Al-Malaki threw all our troops out when Pres. Bush was forced to signed the withdrawal agreement in 2008 but their oil went to China and India. $2 Trillion went down the drain and thousands of Americans paid the supreme price for nothing. Getting rid of Sadam has done more harm than good as we are seeing today in Iraq. The mess along the Southern border today is a direct result of the thirst Americans have for drugs. If it wasn't for this there would be no cartels killing people left and rights in Central America. We buy their drugs and they buy our weapons. Can you blame these children for wanting to get out of their country. It reminds me of what happened when people fled Cuba in the 1960's and beyond. Unfortunately there are no good solutions in both the Middle East and Central America.
More people have been killed over Religion than anything else and this has been going on for centuries. This is just another example like the Crusades or Yugoslavia after the death of Tito.
If Iraqi's won't defend their own country we can do nothing to change the outcome unless you are willing to send thousands of US troops there forever like Korea to keep the waring factions apart. Benghazi has nothing to do with this mess we created in 2003. As you may have seen the people who got us in this mess and screwed it all up want us to go back in. The US spends more on Defense already than the 14 largest countries in the world including China and Russia. Isn't it time for the US to stop being the policemen of the world. Since WW2 which is the last war we actually won we have been involved in one disaster after another.
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