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Chris they said the same things in the 1920's and 30's about the Irish. Poles, Italians etc. As it turned out it was the children of these Immigrants that fought WW2 and saved this country. People seem to forget we are all products of Immigrants. Like you said they would not come here if it weren't employers eager to hire them. It all comes back to money like usual which is why Congress runs away from it..
(Too wet for golf today.)
Kevin they don't have the right to vote if they are illegal. Also the jobs they preform are the ones Americans refuse to do especially on the farms. When US Companies shipped our manufacturing jobs to China and India etc.for cheap labor that left few avenues for people to make a decent middle class lifestyle like we enjoyed. McDonald's had an $8 Billion profit last year yet they pay minimum wage and instruct their employees on how to get gov't assistance like food stamps. The taxpayers are subsidizing their workforce to help their bottom line which is really Corporate Welfare.
It would be nice if our Congress would sit down and work out an Immigration Bill instead of what are they going to do. Go on another VACATION for 5 weeks. The Senate Bill has been there for over a year and the leadership in the House will not debate it or vote on it because an election is coming. We all talk about the welfare state how about the biggest bunch of people who take a 6 figure check and do nothing. This is Congressional welfare. They were elected to govern not vacation, fund raise and campaign which is all they do. They are afraid of making any decisions because it may PO their Base. You can't fix a problem unless you address it. That is what happens when you continue to elect the same idiots over and over..
It is not just the Southern Border in New York City area their are 50,000 undocumented Irish Immigrants. There is no out cry there because we like the Irish now(we hated them in the 1920's) . We need a total revamp of our Immigration system and it can't be done when Congress is always on vacation. They should only be paid when they are in DC, working. How about $ 7.25 an hour with no benefits.
Our military was created to defend the United States of America. What I never understood was why we keep invading countries from Vietnam to Iraq and accomplish nothing but making a mess of these countries instead of deploying our troops along the southern border and actually defending our country. My guess it is money as was mentioned. The Texas economy would collapse considering almost 30% of the work force is undocumented with no benefits. The Texas politicians put on a show how they are against undocumented workers but in reality their supporters reward them for all the cheap labor and the profits they reap in because of it.
Even when we deport these people(2 Million in the last 5 years) there are consequences because 130,000 where criminal gang members who have moved into Central America and set up their operations there running drugs to drug thirsty Americans and in turn we sell them weapons. They give these children a choice, join the gangs or die which is why they are fleeing here. This is why Pres. Bush signed a law in 2008 allowing children from countries other than Mexico and Canada to seek refuge here unfortunately they did not for see 50,000+ coming. A real mess with no easy solutions.
Speaking of names I did meet a person many years ago named Omar. His name was Gen. Omar Bradley and I felt honored to meet him. My Father who had great respect for him always referred to him as the GI's General.
You seem to forget who started and grossly mismanaged the Iraq war. No amount of US troops can stop the sectarian violence. Bush negotiated and signed the status of forces agreement with Iraq in 2008. This called for total withdrawal. Yes Obama tried to negotiated to leave a small force but it was Malaki that refused to give our troops immunity like he did with Bush which caused us to withdraw totally and I'm thankful for that. You don't know what it is like to do one tour in a war zone let alone 4, 5 or 6 like our troops were forced to do. Now you know why the VA is so overloaded. Israel is supported by the US to the tune of $3.1 Billion a year and has been since the late 40's under every President. That mess will go on forever until both parties get serious and stop caving in to the extremists on both sides. Bottom line the Middle East will be a mess and nothing we can do will stop that and in fact the US hasn't helped because we always seem to pick losers to support.
The statement was "Obama upset the apple cart in the Middle East not the Republicans" which is why I mentioned mostly Republicans under this circumstance. I let you add Carter, Clinton and Kennedy and what they did.
PS. I'm not a Democrat and neither a Republican anymore. They both suck..
When hell freezes over.
Mark no one has the capacity to fix it which is why it goes on decade after decade. All you have to do is look what is going on in Gaza. It just never ends.
I can only comment on one of your points because I have spent many years in the Middle East since the 1970's. "Obama foreign policy upset the apple cart in the Middle East" not the Republicans.
The Middle East has been a mess for decades way before Obama was born. It started with the creation of Israel after WW2 in the heart of Jerusalem which went against a promise made by FDR in 1944 to the King of Saudi Arabia when he gave us oil for the war effort. Jerusalem was supposed to remain an international city not in control of Israel or any nation.. In 1954 Pres. Eisenhower had the leader of Iran ousted and he was replaced with the Shah of Iran who sold us oil for weapons. This eventually caused the Iranian Revolution and the take over of the US Embassy. There was the 1967 and 1973 wars that LBJ and Nixon supported. Reagan supported Sadam in his war with Iran. Then there was Reagan's Iran Conta scandal that
followed. Reagan also supported the Taliban in Afghanistan after the Russian invasion.
Lastly the biggest foreign policy blunder was when G W. Bush invaded Iraq not Obama.
It was the most grossly mismanaged war since Vietnam which led to the sectarian warfare that continues today. It was Pres. Bush in 2008 who negotiated and signed the status of forces agreement with Malaki of Iraq that called for the total withdrawal of US troops in 2012 not Obama. There is plenty of blame to go around for the Middle East mess caused by both Republican and Democrat Administrations since WW2 but to say Obama caused it all is ridiculous. It will continue to be a mess in our lifetime and way into your great grand children's life time no matter who is President. .
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