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Russ you are right the last 8 years gave been a mess but the previous 8 where a total disaster. Go to any National Cemetery or VA hospital and you can see first hand what the liars caused however the Defense Industry laughed all the way to the bank.
The last 7 years how about the last 15? Who lied us into Iraq which cost the lives of 4800 Americans and disabled 50000 plus $6 Trillion down the toilet. There would be no Vets(I doubt if you are one) suffering as you say had Cheney not lied to us all. You also forgot to mention that last year alone 43000 Illegal Cubans crossed our Southern Border. As soon as they touch US soil they go on Government Assistance and get a Green Card. You don't hear Rubio or the Foreign born Cruz complaining about Cuban Illegals only Mexicans.
I did not know George W. Bush was a Liberal when he inherited from a Liberal President a $250 Billion a year surplus and turned it into a $1.3 Trillion yearly deficit. I thought he was Compassionate Conservative.
Unemployment down to 5% from 10%, Gas from $4 to less than $2, Yearly Deficit down from $1.3 Trillion to $439 Billion, Dow Stock Market up from 6500 to 16,000, 30 Yr. Home Mortgage rate less than 4%, Home prices up 25%+, Great Recession gone, Troops not dying in Iraq etc. Yes, tremendously better than 2008 but not good enough.
The House of Representatives controls the purse strings not the President which is controlled by Republicans. Speaker Paul Ryan( R-WI) approved the Budget just passed which added another $2 Trillion to the Deficit over 20 years. When Pres. Bush(2001-2009) left office in Jan. 2009 the total Deficit was $11 Trillion with a yearly $1.1 Trillion Deficit which increased to $1.3 Trillion in 2009 thanks to the GREAT RECESSION, massive unemployment, Wall St. Bailouts, tax cuts, stimulus package and 2 wars. The 2016 yearly Deficit is now $439 Billion.
As for pulling out of Iraq it was Pres. Bush who negotiated and signed the Status of Forces Agreement with his hand picked PM of Iraq, Nouri al-Maliki in 2008 before he left office. Obama was forced to implement Pres. Bush's Agreement because Maliki insisted on ALL US Forces out of his country and he refused to renegotiate the 2008 Agreement. To occupy Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan like Korea would cost $Trillions and a million combat troops. As Rand Paul has said who the hell is going to pay for that? The S. Koreans(we are still there 60 years later) want us there but the Middle East does not and that is the big difference. Bottom line as future Pres. Donald J. Trump has said, the invasion of Iraq was the biggest blunder since LBJ's Vietnam. It has cost $6 Trillion so far, 4800 American lives, 50,000 disabled and destabilized the entire Middle East.
I get your point, what happened between 2001 and 2009 was a mirage.
Mark I have been to China many times and you will find the average person in China is controlled by not just the Government but the Corporations and the super rich. They have the same problem we have which is the President and Congress do not control our country. The Big Corporations like the Defense Industry , Wall St. and the super rich dictate how our country is run. The $6 Trillion we spend on Iraq while giving the biggest tax cut in our history made thing worse not better however some Defense Corporations did very well as they will with the massive Defense Spending to come. The money does not go to our men and women who do the fighting and dying it goes to the Executives and Stockholders and it turn the Politicians who never wore the uniform of this country and they could care less. Maybe if more people actually served their country they would understand this.
The US spends more on Defense than the next 10 largest countries added together including China and Russia. The US Administration in 2003 and their friends in the Media like Cheney, Bolton, Kristol, Rice etc. told us that if we didn't invade Iraq we'd have a mushroom cloud here in the US. After $6 Trillion and 4800 dead Americans what do we have to show for it? Iran is now a global player, the entire Middle East is totally de-stabilized, we created ISIS and Halliburton made 100's of $ Billions. China is what it is today thanks to our government in the 1980's giving them our manufacturing base in order to enhance Stockholder Equity on Wall St. and kill the Labor Union and they were successful. Some of the Candidates for Presidents are promising to make us great again by increasing Military Spending to $1 Trillion a year from $650 Billion and at the same time give the Corporations, Wall St. CEO's and Billionaires a big tax cut like they did in 2001 and 2003. Since 2001 the US has spend $10 Trillion on Defense, $6 Trillion in Iraq, $2 Trillion in Afghanistan. and the only thing we accomplished is make a mess in the Middle East worse. Our National Debt was $5 Trillion in 2001 with a $250 Billion yearly surplus and 15 years later it is $18 Trillion + with a $600 Billion annual deficit. Doing the same thing again and expecting a different result is called insanity.
It looks like some people have been spending way too much time at the Golden Leaf.
In the 1960's the CEO's of the Tobacco Industry testified under oath before Congress that smoking did not cause cancer and it was perfectly safe. It was all a Liberal Media Hoax. Today the 5 % of Scientists who work for either the Coal and the Oil and Gas Industry or FOX say Climate Change is also a Liberal Media Hoax. The 200 Countries that signed the Paris Agreement obviously are all wrong on their assessment and they need to get their information from FOX so they can get it right. Maybe you all need to take a trip to Beijing as I have and enjoy breathing in that CO2 and not being able to see your hand in front of your face on a nice sunny day. Then you can see the Hoax first hand.
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