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True but Israel can take care to itself.
Mark, whether it is Obama, Bush or even Eisenhower Iran is what it is today because the US meddled in their affairs decades ago(1954) when we installed our puppet the Shah of Iran who gave us oil and we gave him weapons. He was as evil as Sadam so no wonder their people overthrew him in 1979 and installed an Islamic Republic. When I was there in the 70's I could see it coming. We never learn from our mistakes whether it is Vietnam, Iran, Iraq or Libya We keep picking the losers like Malaki in Iraq, who actually came from Iran, to do what we tell them and they do the opposite.
The argument of Iran going Nuclear is the same argument that was used against Iraq and where did that get us. The most dangerous country in the Middle East is Pakistan and they already are Nuclear. If you don't want Iran going Nuclear then you need to disarm Israel and Pakistan their neighbors.
You are correct in that our invasion of Iraq destabilized the entire region and there is no easy way out. The US government under both Republican and Democrat Presidents have made a mess of just about everything in the Middle East and don't expect much to change in the future no matter who is in the White House.
Mark, are you advocating invading the Middle East again?
Dan very simply it is mostly males that need to carry weapons. Women who are Mothers who know better.
Scott is correct. What the open carry enthusiasts need to realize is that it is not limited to middle age white males. If young Black and Hispanic males started going around with guns strapped to their hips the White population would go through the roof. Maybe that is what we need is a campaign to get them all armed in public. I'm sure the NRA and their supporters would love all the new gun sales. I wonder if they would be allowed to join.
The US is the most violent country in the Western World. On average 88 people are killed everyday of which 12 are children under the age of 12 all by firearms. The basic reason is money not the Second Amendment. The arms manufactures fund the NRA and in turn they fund the politicians who support them. When I was growing up in the 40's to the 60's arguments were settled by fist fights today it is guns. Australia has the same problem decades ago and the Conservative government decided to implement background checks and a 7 day waiting period to purchase a weapon. Gun violence dropped by almost 70%. Unfortunately in this country the NRA has a strangle hold on our government so it will not happen here in the near term. There is too much money to be made. It is harder to get a drivers license or even vote in the US than get a weapon. It has become an obsession especially with middle age white males. They need to defend themselves at all times by carrying a weapon. Unfortunately many times a child gets their weapon and kills another small child or they get po'd at someone and act without thinking because the weapon is right there on their hip which is what happened in Waco TX a couple of months ago when 9 were killed in a shootout. As long as any criminal or nut case can easily get a weapon the carnage will continue and Charleston type massacres will continue to happen. I honestly don't see anything changing in my lifetime.
Dan, I'm sorry but those are the facts and you can interpret them anyway you want. You are correct it is the fault of both parties which is why I would not give you 2 cents for either party. That is why I quit the Republican Party in 2001 and became Independent. Neither Party is willing to sit down and work out our problems because the big money people and Corporations run this country and Citizen's United has proved that.
Dan, to be factual the National Debt is not $20T it is $18T.
When Ronald Reagan took office in 1981 it was $900 Billion when he left office it was $3 Trillion. When Clinton left office it was $5Trillion and declining by $250 Billion a year. When G.W. Bush left office it was $11 Trillion and increasing by $1.1 Trillion a year. Right now it is $18 Trillion increasing by $600 Billion a year. I doubt we will get a balanced budget by increasing defense spending (invading Iran and Iraq) and more tax cuts
which is what is being proposed. Trickle down economics did not work for Reagan or Bush and it still does not work today.
Mark, the debt was $5 Trillion with a $250 Billion surplus a year in 2001 when the Conservatives took total control of our Gov't. When they left in 2009 the debt was $11 Trillion with a yearly $1.1 Trillion deficit and we were saddled with a Great Recession, 2 unpaid for wars, 2 massive tax cuts for our so called "Job Creators" and a $780 Billion Wall St. Bailout.
The question is how do you turn around that mess no matter who is in charge. We may never totally recover from that 8 years and what I'm hearing from the GOP Presidential hopefuls is that all we need is more tax cuts for the "Job Creators" and sending our troops back into Iraq. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
I'm not a Clinton fan, Hillary or Bill but what happened in Iraq was criminal. Just 2 days ago Rumsfeld said that they knew before they invaded that Democracy was impossible in Iraq yet they went ahead anyway. Why? WMD's-NO. The answer is OIL plus there is big money to be made in war by a few and companies like Halliburton laughed all the way to the bank while the families of our military went to the cemetery.
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