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It does not even matter if it is a "good investment" and returns substantial profit. It is STILL outside the proper domain of municipal (or any) government.
Just the opportunity and temptations for cronyism and nepotism surrounding such "investments" is reason enough for them to be kept FAR AWAY from government.
Who's brother owns the solar panel company? Who's friend is the realtor that has the land listed? Who will profit from building the infrastructure? Who's wifes trucking company will haul the material to the site?
On and on it goes... opportunity for endless questionable decisions that might have been taken for personal or secondary reasons.
THIS is why "investment" (good or bad) should be something done by INDIVIDUALS with THEIR OWN money... Period.
"... I'd be really curious, who might personally profit from this new course.."
Me too, Rhys!!
That is, of course, S.O.P. for thoseof us who have come to understand and detest the game...
It would not be forbidden, Madison. It would just take far more of a back seat, behind those things you also deemed important.
Physical fitness can also be achieved and mainteined by pushing a lawn-mower, raking leaves, painting the house, shoveling snow and other activities classified as "work". Things that kids are now "protected" from unfortunately.
It is truly unfortunate that our society has re-defined work as something to be avoided, as punishment, as something for suckers, etc. Work is a PRIVILEDGE and should be an integral part of any persons education and upbringing.
See folks... Madison wasn't leaning forward with a huge chip on her shoulder waiting to be "offended". She didn't take our comments too personally and responded with some thought-out arguments of her own. THAT'S how you do it... NOT by whining about someone's comments hurting your feelings.
"If teachers were paid more, we'd have more qualified and appropriate educators who would be able to ensure success for the kids. Or the argument could be that the parents are to blame for their children's failures."
That is the most naive thing I've heard since... well... ever.
If you doubled the average teacher's salary, Madison, most of them would take it as a "Q" to cut their hours in half immediately... NOT to double their teaching output.
It is indeed the parents who are to blame for most of their kids shortcommings. No doubt about it.
Anyone who gives a tinkers dam about their kids would get them out of government schools, ensure their BASIC skills such as math, reading, writing, science, etc. Then, they would use the remaing 3 days of the week to teach them the fine arts, social studies, second languages, etc. instead of hauling them all down to the lake or the soccer field where "everyone is a winner" and everyone gets a trophy, whether they can spell "TROPHY" or not.
If throwing money at government schools would improve them, they'd be damn-near perfect by now...
There has been 36 minutes since you "spoke". Nobody "spoke" in that time.There were 4hrs-25min before that for anyone to "speak" about anything they wanted... including the Barn Village.
In that entire 5 hr time period, nobody posted one word about the Barn Village, including YOU. Pat.
Your entire post was about a subject other than the Barn Village...
You are right. I don't know the diff. between an online forum and a chatroom. And YOU don't know the difference between a civil disagreement and a personal attack. You (and others) take much or all of what is said here (by me and others) as an attack on you personally. That is your prerogative, but does not mean our opinions are invalid or that they must wait till the headline clears us to verbalize the exact thoughts generated by the conversation.
Grow up, bring your best arguments, and participate ... or don't ... I don't care.
Call me every name in the book. Debate me. Ridicule me. Prove me wrong. Insult me. Laugh at me. Laugh with me...
Throw yourself into the fray; or sit quietly in the shadows with the masses... but stop whining and bitchin' about what others do and say.
"Once more into the Fray...
Into the last good fight I'll ever know.
Live and Die on this day...
Live and die on this day... "
I actually do agree with Madison to some degree. It is good to have a second language and spanish certainly is a logical choice.
I just wish the logic she uses when she says "...be more than just English speaking drones, requiring others to oblige our language when we travel abroad...." worked BOTH WAYS. Why, if I can't go to Mexico and get a drivers license in ENGLISH, should a Mexican expect to come here and get one in SPANISH???
They perfected it and exported it back to the US in the 1950's and '60's, Scott.
“This new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take over youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing.” (Hitler)
I wonder if people like Pat ever have conversations in real life in which they condemn other participants for taking the conversation off into topics other than the original comment...
If you have something to say about the Barn Village then spill it, Pat. Nobody is stopping you.
What I find really sad is that this society seems so dominated by it's "feelings" that it is affraid to express them outside of a group that likely already agrees with them and will not hurt their "feelings".
It is sad, really. How does one dominate a forum with apparent limitless ability to post comments????
Pushing the "hamburger" symbol on the cash register works in EVERY language. However, if you can't make change for 20 US Dollars (something many American high school grads seem to suffer with) then you can't make change for 20 Pesos either.
If we can't educate them in ONE language (and we can't) then how exactly are they gonna get educated in multiple languages???
And then there's the pervasive tendency of communist states to dis-allow private gun ownership. One can see almost daily examples around the world of abuses of individuals by states which have disallowed private gun ownership; today's headline example is in Ukraine. People there being slapped around by thugs... COMMUNIST thugs, FOREIGN, INVADING COMMUNIST THUGS... and they have no means of self-defense.
The state that promised to protect them is the one killing them or, at the very least, stepping aside and allowind others to do so...
Oh, I forgot number 10... Government Education... THE Communist wet dream... What a great success the American "public fool system" has been, no? The communists laugh their asses off every time they think of the success they had destroying this country through our endoctrination centers called "schools"...
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