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How does that work, defending yourself from government with a gun? Who would you shoot at? What envisioned argument would you have that tyranny exists? What possible gun violence against the US government could occur that any fellow Americans would welcome?
Allen. Really? You are going to rest on that website and call others uninformed fools?
I'll look further but off the top your source is not even attempting at relevance. The first and most prominent exhibit is a chart mixing apple protocols of the CDC with orange protocols of Kleck and Gertz. Worse, the CDC data is from 2013 and Kleck and Gertz data is from 1995. Comparing data from two protocols, created 2 decades apart, amounts to a farce.
Clicked link for the Kleck and Gertz report, reference 2: file not found
I'm sure it gets better.
Rhys is right about the human condition. Everyone carrying guns would escalate arguments into deaths, just as more available guns escalate depression into more suicides.
Chicago suffers from neighbors with lax laws profiting on guns headed for Chicago. Large scale and large regions are the only reasonable proof of what works and what doesn't work. The UK is a soft target with stricter laws. Germany is a soft target with stricter laws. Israel is a soft target with stricter laws. Comparing gun violence in these counties, the US is a slaughterhouse.
More guns equal more dead kids. That is a fact.
"Carrying out the bodies". Hard words to read, but true enough. The U.S. has few peers among industrial nations in this carnage.
Allen, any idea why kids in our country are being killed at far greater rates than most developed countries? Would you not agree that one reason is how many guns we have? Is it possible more mass shootings are happening because ammo and highly lethal weapons are so easy to buy?
Asking teachers to be armed and responsible for repelling intruders is extreme advice. Could I ask you and the NRA to do your part in reducing gun violence by supporting gun registration?
As we have known for a long time, gun ownership is steadily decreasing in the U.S.. As such, "more guns equal less crime" makes no sense.
This is just the latest affirmation. Beats me why they find it so surprising:
The peak of civilization is behind us. I'd pick 1995.
Jerry, its more effective at the other end - the source of the guns. From the link I posted above:
Registration laws help reduce illegal firearm sales and transfers by creating accountability for gun owners. A firearm owner who knows that law enforcement has the ability to trace the firearm back to him or her may be deterred from transferring the firearm to a potentially dangerous individual, and may be encouraged to store his or her firearm safely so as to prevent unauthorized access or theft. Registration laws also help deter “straw purchases,” in which an eligible person purchases a firearm on behalf of an ineligible person or a person who wants to avoid having the gun traced back to him or her.
Information generated by firearm registration systems can also help protect law enforcement officers responding to an incident by providing them with information about whether firearms may be present at the scene and, if so, how many and what types.
Registration laws are most effective when combined with laws requiring licensing of firearm owners and purchasers. A 2001 study analyzing the firearm tracing data of crime guns recovered in 25 U.S. cities revealed that states with some form of both registration and licensing have greater success keeping firearms initially sold by dealers in the state from being recovered in crimes than states without such systems in place. This data suggests that licensing and registration laws make it more difficult for criminals, juveniles and other prohibited purchasers to obtain guns, and help ensure that firearm owners remain eligible to possess their weapons.
If all the U.S. shooters were registered nationally as mental violence threats as they became shooters, yes the net is wide enough. Of course this is not true. To have real impact on mass and other shootings the mental registry will be 100x larger than what we have now.
The gun industry's responsibility? Obviously for mental filters to work law enforcement must know who on that registry is in possession of a gun, or with parents, spouses etc possessing guns. The gun industry should support gun registration. Instead they oppose it. In the larger spectrum of gun violence, gun manufacturers fighting gun registration only make it easier for criminals to find guns. These manufacturers are not culpable?
Epilepsy is a bar to driving unless that person's stability can be established.
Manufacturers of all types become defendants for liability, and sometimes pay, even though their product was never intended for that particular use. Gun manufacturers have immunity to liability, will never pay, even though their product's entire purpose is it's ability to injure or kill.
Everyone carries responsibility for gun violence, except gun manufacturers.
The former is an inconvenience, the latter could be a loss. You can always pay the ticket and then be able buy the gun. Not so with a vote.
Mass shootings are all CNN cares about. Gun violence of course, is more than that.
Gun industry doing mental evaluations makes no sense to me either. My point was the gun industry shouldn't ask others to accept a scale of responsibilities it adamantly refuses for itself. I'll try again:
Brad writes, "If you can know when anyone is going to do such a thing in advance then you are the smartest person to live. You cannot predict who,when and where someone will do this." He is right.
In other words, we are talking about a very large net. Millions of people will find themselves and their mental state registered with the federal government. This is ok but registering your guns is not?
Ken writes, "I never understood how a mental health professional could live with themselves if they had strong indicators that a patient who wanted to harm themselves or others did not report such a case..."
And Brian writes, "If professionals assigned to the task are perceived as agents of the state, so be it. I don't see any way around it."
The mental health profession should assume responsibility and culpability for gun violence in the U.S. while the gun industry bears none?
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