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By the way, the whole of Colorado's health care costs may come way down as business' and people move out of the state, reducing income for the system that is to save us.
Who knows it is all hypothetical and $5 Billion is a guess as to how much people will save and may end up hurting peoples health as specialists may leave the state seeking out new locations to set up practices.
What greater good?
Continuing with a system that is poisoning us so we can get treatment to save our lives?
Continuing with a system that has "food" that is embalming our bodies while we are still alive so we do not decompose as we should returning to the cycle of life?
That is a lesser good, it is not working towards HEALTH. It is providing sick care for those who have been poisoned by toxins released into the environment and poisoned us. It is a result of farming practices that put calories on our table and not food that promotes health.
We have a system of food distribution that skews the omega 6 to omega 3 fatty acid ratio so far that our bodies have to use inferior materials to build and heal themselves. This leads to poor health and higher health care costs.
You are not talking about the greater good! The greater good looks at the whole under management and YOUR DESIRED SOLUTION ONLY LOOKS AT THE SYSTEM TO PAY FOR OUR POOR HEALTH BECAUSE OF A SYSTEM THAT IS SO FAR OFF TRACK, WE FAIL TO EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS HURTING US AS A SOCIETY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lock, I pay my employees, which is more than I can say for myself, still paying to work and trying to make the world a better place.
However, government subsidies of industries, which are mechanized, unsustainable, create dead zones in our oceans, kill animals indiscriminately (harvest pesticide applications) and provide nutrient depleted foods (about 50% of the nutrient content of 100 years ago), taxation policies which favor capital as opposed to labor make it very hard to make a living in agriculture, so while I pay employees, I am doing so via savings today and about done doing so, if I do not turn the corner soon, which I hope happens soon. That being said, I still will be at a disadvantage to those who use technology and chemicals to produce subpar foods, which lead to mental and physical health issues.
So I have no desire to support a system which unfairly taxes labor and fails to address any issues which are creating the health care woes we have!
Mob rule, as Plato wrote in the republic, is what democracy tends to devolve towards.
Why is their a cap on incomes that pay the taxes? If you want fair then there is no cap at 350k in personal income. My taxes as a small employer are going to go through the roof and make me reconsider what/how I do things.
Is it fair to those utilizing robots to produce nutrient depleted foods to not pay a similar tax per unit of production? Heck one dairy replaced 50 workers with them with bots and five employees. How is that fair to one employing humans paying more payroll, unemployment taxes and potentially health care taxes. It's not its MOB RULE, what the U S constitutional was written to protect against and why it was founded as a constitutional republic.
Heck we don't care about the other 20%, just save the mob money and alls good.
Lock, your frustration with obtaining a price for an X-ray makes sense, but is easily solved by requiring providers to post costs to be paid by all for procedures. It does not require a new "insurance company" which is all it will be . One which will not have negotiated/set rates outside of Colorado, setting up Colorado cares to pay a lot more when one is out of state needing a procedure done.
It Colorado cares sets reimbursement rates, small communities and resorts may lose practitioners as a result of payments being lowered Because they are trying to make one size fit all.
The system has issues, some could have easy fixes. Just as Lock tried to find a better X-Ray rate, any system should involve the patient in trying to maintain health through diet and exercise, rewarding healthy people and their sick care costs down. It should also impose fees on those habits, pollutants and toxins known to detract from ones health to help pay for care, if this is the type of system deemed best for reimbursement.
Oops on phone and thought Scott's was Nancy's comment. Sorry.
Oops on phone and thought Scott's was baby's comment. Sorry.
Well that has nothing to do with premium assistance that the poor receive from the federal government to pay their bill when going through an exchange
There will still be multiple programs that health care providers have to work with... GP's will generally deal with one.but not always.
I asked a question a long way back on obtaining federal funds lost for the poor covered by the ACA as there is no longer an exchange or need for people to go through the bs system, how much federal funding goes out the window, or does CC somehow obtain that?
I know why Fraud savings won't be found in either case and might go up, because there are unscrupulous individuals out there that will find ways of making money by cheating and hide it well.
The four way test, "is it fair to all concerned" not really if 20% pay more. Not really if those things that make health care cost more, do not pay their way (utilizing the founding constitution ones property has been damaged/taken by another and must be compensated, in order to live within the founding principles that so many treaties are destroying). Is it fair for those who strive to maintain good health to pay for the health care costs of those that eat deep fried twinkles, etc..
Pie in the sky, as Nancy, I fail to see any detailed plans of how CC is going to reduce costs, just that these are the areas that they will be realized. I see the potential for business' that manufacture products leaving the state at some point, retirees with significant incomes having dual residences, like in Steamboat and ?, so they do not have to pay CC premiums and still live here, creating a system that still requires the Doctors having to deal with multiple systems of reimbursement.
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