John Weibel

John Weibel 2 weeks ago on Colby Townsend: Deciding to shop local

Colby stated, The question is, “Where will we work?”....

If one takes into account money multipliers and such, maybe we should be focusing on wealth creation business' in the future vision of the community. From a food production standpoint, most of all of the wealth created and then sold is new and has a far higher return in the local economy than straight up retail.

With animal feed, figuring out how to utilize local grains from the region is going to have a much larger benefit for the community going forward than Purina brands. As there is still a cost in that, take the green tripe (stomach with the grass still in it) from beef cows. That has a very high market value, if it could be captured then you are building jobs based on the export of value added goods from the region. That is much more sustainable than simply retail. Though, if most of the economic activity can occur within the local community then it is the most sustainable, probably also most equitable.

Figure out (I think it is nearly there) how to mill wheat that is grown here, so it is not shipped out, back in processed and depleted of nutrients because of oxidization that occurs after milling. Make bread with that flour that can be retailed locally and regionally.

Yes it is a matter of what one wants the community to look like. Though, retail has a very low return on dollars spent staying in the community unless those products are "grown"/made in the area. Part of what wants the community to look like should come via finding a way to allow individuals to invest locally, in a reasonably safe way. That way, the profits from ones LABOR, can be reinvested in the local community, building a more stable economy.

Anyway, the question of where will jobs be, hopefully at some point the government realizes that humans are being taxed at an unfavorable rate in comparison to technology and fixes the problem and the forecast of 30% of jobs being eliminated in 10-15 years by automation. Because that is the real elephant in the room.


John Weibel 2 weeks ago on Colby Townsend: Deciding to shop local

Unfortunately, the rent factor is pretty high in our little hamlet. It makes it very hard to pencil out the numbers in a way that can retain the consumers. The real estate developer states that is the figure they need to make their numbers pencil out and that is where the laws of supply and demand come into play. It still seems to me that there is an awful lot of vacant commercial space.

While we need to shop local to help maintain the local storefronts. The local storefronts, might just need more help from the local real estate developers so that when the economy falls on hard times again (not that it is completely out of the funk that began several years ago) it is not rent that drives them out of business.

Throw in the fact that forecasts are expecting about 30% of jobs to be eliminated in the future, via further automation (just look at how Amazon is now picking items to ship). If you really want to start fixing the problems with local business' being lost, then personally that is the first place to start. Figuring out how to impose adequate taxes on automation so that we lowly humans do not face all of the tax burden all the while technology puts us out of work.

Shane toured a robotic dairy back east of Thanksgiving and while clean, it displaced lots of people, they could not ensure that all teats were washed. So they hoped to keep their bacterial counts under 200,000, the state of Colorado puts their lower limits for testing at 15,000 (if I am not mistaken) and yet when one takes their time they can maintain bacterial counts of less than 1000 consistently and most of the time less than 100 eliminating the need for pasteurization. yes there is a risk in unpasteurized milk as there is in pasteurized.

Though, my methods require people to preform the tasks, which are penalized via the tax system, through unemployment taxes, work comp and payroll taxes. A more equitable system, like the fair tax proposed in the 90's, would be based upon sales taxes. Sales taxes would tax all goods at the same rate no matter how they are produced. In addition, as opposed to taxing employers for those they employ, giving them a bonus for keeping people off of the welfare roles would then further help small business'.

The reason for local business' shuttering their doors are far more complicated than simply not enough people shopping locally. Fix the tax system so that, unsustainable production methods (energy dependent) face similar tax bills as those which employ people, which generally are localized and sustainable.

Sorry for my grammar as I did not review what I have posted and I am sure my mental train of thought was faster than my fingers.


John Weibel 3 weeks, 5 days ago on Tips for a healthy Thanksgiving

By the way, it is probably not so much what you eat that is the biggest problem, it is what your food eats. Wheat being a very good example of farmers applying roundup to the plant to help "kill" it to allow an earlier harvest.

Too bad that our government subsidizes ag in a way that yields the currently nutrient depleted food that it does. Those grain subsidies have altered the free market and helped to destroy the local food sheds that used to exist.


John Weibel 3 weeks, 6 days ago on Tips for a healthy Thanksgiving

Scott, they never once said to watch sodium, fat or caloric intake. They did say it is okay to have those days of indulgence but stay active the rest of them.

The only real advice there was to eat proteins, vegetables, while trying to avoid sugar - with a valid reason for doing so.

I understand that you have been led to believe that fat and salt are demons of the food world though they are not. Salt might be a little bad as it does help to retain water and thus probably increases pressure within. However, as our food is depleted of micro nutrients, because of how it is grown, salt helps to fill the void, if not processed.

Enjoy your holiday of indulgence, as the author suggested. Though take a walk and give thanks for the world, people plants and animals, that produced your food, to stay active as the author suggested.


John Weibel 1 month, 1 week ago on Monday Medical: Home cooking on the extinct list

Rhys, you did read the quote from the head of the Agency heading up nutrition for the US govt?

We have been led to believe for years that fat is bad. It is not and the paper and yvmc's director of marketing and communication are promoting a diet that very well are making people more prone to dis-ease. I guess the medical community does not care as they get to make more money with more sick people.

"Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food". Hippocrates

Unfortunately the way our food is grown has reduced its nutritional value, so that is becoming hard. In addition if we are what we eat then it stands to reason we are what our food eats. Enough of the soap box rant.

Just one last quote as it would be nice if people trying to make a positive difference would review what they have been indoctrinated into believing as gospel.

"It is easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled" I think Mark Twain is the source.

My guess as to where the whole myth came from is the dairy "industry", as my father in law used to pour the skim milk down the drain at the creamery he worked for. Now only if that waste product could be sold, the dairy "industry" would be more profitable. If you keep it on farm then you have a feed additive for pigs and chickens. But specialized farms can not do that.


John Weibel 1 month, 1 week ago on Chamber still working to grow number of summer visitors recommending Steamboat to their friends

However, generally, most organizations are focused on their one issue, Housing, Open Space, etc. and they do not necessarily work towards a better solution for the "whole". Also, the primary driver of the winter economy, wants more and has influence to keep promoting marketing for more.

So while it is easy for someone with little in the local economy to say maybe this does not work, the government depends on sales tax which means they want more also. So it is also easy to see that the paradigm is hard to shift, based upon the economics of all of it.


John Weibel 1 month, 1 week ago on Monday Medical: Home cooking on the extinct list

"Progress happens one tombstone at a time." Max Planck, Nobel Prize Winning Physicist.

At what point will the crusade against fat stop?

The top scientist guiding the U.S. government’s nutrition recommendations made an admission last month that would surprise most Americans. Low-fat diets, Alice Lichtenstein said, are “probably not a good idea.”


John Weibel 1 month, 1 week ago on Chamber still working to grow number of summer visitors recommending Steamboat to their friends

I understand Scott, the more we try to make things "better" generally, the more things get out of balance, because we forgot that the world we live in is very dynamic with lots of variables. So when you tinker with one, you ought to be watching all the other variables because you might be moving the needle in the right direction for that one variable, and yet all the others could be going the wrong direction.

Open space is a great example, it saves some open space, yet makes housing less affordable, it concentrates wealth in those with more than most being taxed to save open space, and on and on. Working towards a viable local food system, would cause more ranches/farms to stay in agricultural production, create more jobs and solve more problems than the current way of preserving open space. That solution probably also has issues, if one simply grants money to others to create that system.

Unfortunately, we have been conditioned to compartmentalize issues and only deal with them one at a time. From my experience in ag, once you start messing with one variable it changes the whole system. The complex and dynamic systems that we have, rarely get looked at from a wholistic perspective, people just want to fix what they are after fixing and fail to view the "whole under management".


John Weibel 1 month, 1 week ago on Chamber still working to grow number of summer visitors recommending Steamboat to their friends

Because that is the model that has been followed for 30 years. Why change, even if it is causing other issues... the government can fix those for us. They are doing a knock up job with housing. They are now housing those seasonal workers, to keep the machine running.