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Let the games begin, this should be fun to watch and interesting to decipher all of the applicants association to tourism (or not). I just hope that the final result does indeed do associate with tourism. YEE HAH!!!!!
Wow, what is this. Severance of $500,000 for four years of service, That amounts to a severance of $125,000/year for his sitting in the chair for four years and probably complaining how tough things were. There has got to be a story behind this. As a taxpayer of this entity, I would pleasantly say that this does not make me happy where my CMC dollars go. All of this is probably on top of an annual salary over at least $175,000, probably over $200,000. No wonder why all worry about our hard earned property tax dollars. Nice to have some follow up on this.
This SUP in in fact a quasi-judicial matter. I don't think for a minute that my stating some relevant facts to the matter affects my judgement on the matter. Relative to Pirtlaw paying for the road, I could care less who paid for the road, not an issue to me. I remain unbiased and will approach the hearing as such. I do on the other hand get a little sensitive about the county always shouldering the blame for the delays and problems with the oil and gas permitting. Oil and gas is different than other permitting, but it still needs to go through a similar overall process. I believe that the county and the companies are working towards a good working relationship.
First off a ranch road on this property was not allowed because of the Conservation Easement. The Conservation Easement specifically says that no additional roads would be built on the property other than potential two track roads(I've seen the road, it certainly is not a two track) which would need prior approval by the monitoring Easement Holder. Routt County PDR put $250,000 into that easment, and GOCO put another $1.1million to purchase part of that easement. While Quicksilver would have the right to build the road to an oil well on the property, the property owner did not with out breaking the contractual Conservation Easement. Secondly not all agriculture activity is exempt from Grading and Excavation permits. There is wording that allows for minor disturbance that promotes animal husbandry or crop production is exempt, but not all Ag activity is exempt. The intent of Grading and Exc. permits is to protect water quality, watersheds, and mitigate for erosion. While we would hope that Ag producers would undertake such protections, small scale projects with exempt purposes are exempt from the regulations.
The county offered the same opportunity to Quicksilver as was provided to Shell in that they could sign a contract that would require the reclamation of the well pad and road if they were not granted the SUP. The contract also required a performance bond to insure the reclamation. Approx $25,000 in Shell's case. Quicksilver declined to utilize that option. As was discussed in a prior post, I doubt very seriously that Pirtlaw paid the bill to build the road and pad. Ironic how this all can became so complicated.
It should also be noted that Quicksilver was offered other earlier dates for their county hearing, none of them were utilized. COGCC issued their permit for this well on I believe Oct. 6,12, and it wasn't until 12/4 that we have a scheduled county hearing. The county process allows for dual permit applications. I'm struggling with the always Crisis Mode that has been portrayed on this property. We haven't experienced the Crisis Mode with other properties or operators. All involved knew that they were going to drill a well there in May, why was the application not complete and hearings undertaken months ago, all can blame the county but it was not the county holding up this application. We are furthering the prospect of streamlining applications, but this will require some diligence of the applicants as well. Doug Monger Routt Commissioner
Michael, you better go check your facts again. Richard Soash a Democrat won the Senate District #8 race (which included all of those conservative counties- Moffat, Rio-Blanco, Jackson) in I believe 1978. Doug Monger
GREAT JOB TIGERS !!!!!! Good luck next week.
Great job Sailors, YAH HOO.
Sorry Festus, thought it was in the ball park, at any rate, I was just making the point in how vulnerable the county is to fuel price increases when we are running all of this heavy equipment around. Doug Monger
John, I believe that Three Forks built their new lodge in Wyoming because they did not want to pay Routt County Taxes. The county had a little go around with them when they would not let the assessor on the property to value the commercial assets associated with the earlier lodge. Then the assessor had some push back on which assets were used in the commercial lodging operation and which assets were agriculture tools. That was not to mention that they were not in compliance with Colorado Liquor Codes and were required to get a Liquor License. The county did not hear any complaints about the building department, in fact we heard compliments on the building department about them promptly doing inspections way up there and not holding back the construction activity. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
Tyler, thanks for the comments, I would clarify that the first article was in relation to SEVERED, not dormant mineral rights(there is no classification for dormant mineral rights). That discussion started and includes the conversation that some people have paid their taxes on these severed mineral rights for over 100 years and hence are not allowed to recoup their taxes or profit on their private property interests. The article was I believe to put into perspective how much the investment of private property interests were in relation to the Severed mineral interests and to the property tax implications as a whole. The second part of the same conversation is that those property owners that still directly own the mineral interests are not charged additional taxes for their mineral interests still owned. The last part and most crucial part of whole conversation is that Routt County needs to have the conversation about is if we have oil and gas, (CONSIDERING TABOR) will we reduce the taxes to the other property tax payers (as required by TABOR) or will we not (through election) and will we have the discussion to "Debruce" like Garfield County so that additional property taxes from energy development will be allowed to build up and or directly deal with the affects of extraction. Taxpayers will have the ability short term to get a free ride from the energy interests and allow other property interests to LIVE OFF of the energy business in a non sustainable situation or we the taxpayers can continue to pay their fair share and the county can Bank and invest the windfall of Energy do deal with the effects and ramnifications of energy. We need to remember that when the energy business goes away, so does their revenue (very much similar to the building boom that we had intermitantly observed during the last 30 years) hence the cliff affect. Doug Monger
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