Sorry Festus, thought it was in the ball park, at any rate, I was just making the point in how vulnerable the county is to fuel price increases when we are running all of this heavy equipment around. Doug Monger
John, I believe that Three Forks built their new lodge in Wyoming because they did not want to pay Routt County Taxes. The county had a little go around with them when they would not let the assessor on the property to value the commercial assets associated with the earlier lodge. Then the assessor had some push back on which assets were used in the commercial lodging operation and which assets were agriculture tools. That was not to mention that they were not in compliance with Colorado Liquor Codes and were required to get a Liquor License. The county did not hear any complaints about the building department, in fact we heard compliments on the building department about them promptly doing inspections way up there and not holding back the construction activity. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
Tyler, thanks for the comments, I would clarify that the first article was in relation to SEVERED, not dormant mineral rights(there is no classification for dormant mineral rights). That discussion started and includes the conversation that some people have paid their taxes on these severed mineral rights for over 100 years and hence are not allowed to recoup their taxes or profit on their private property interests. The article was I believe to put into perspective how much the investment of private property interests were in relation to the Severed mineral interests and to the property tax implications as a whole. The second part of the same conversation is that those property owners that still directly own the mineral interests are not charged additional taxes for their mineral interests still owned. The last part and most crucial part of whole conversation is that Routt County needs to have the conversation about is if we have oil and gas, (CONSIDERING TABOR) will we reduce the taxes to the other property tax payers (as required by TABOR) or will we not (through election) and will we have the discussion to "Debruce" like Garfield County so that additional property taxes from energy development will be allowed to build up and or directly deal with the affects of extraction. Taxpayers will have the ability short term to get a free ride from the energy interests and allow other property interests to LIVE OFF of the energy business in a non sustainable situation or we the taxpayers can continue to pay their fair share and the county can Bank and invest the windfall of Energy do deal with the effects and ramnifications of energy. We need to remember that when the energy business goes away, so does their revenue (very much similar to the building boom that we had intermitantly observed during the last 30 years) hence the cliff affect. Doug Monger
Bob, I actually like a lot of Mark's comments, my comment was not to dis on Mark but to make sure people know more facts to base their decision on. Thanks Doug Monger
Mark, actually the landfill has a total circle field of monitoring wells to monitor the water around the landfill and to gauge the impact on the Yampa. I can't remember the number, but Routt County Environmental Health has the number. I believe it is between four to six. The coal mines also have monitoring wells all around their mine sites, basically a perimeter of monitoring wells. That is not only in Routt, but is in Moffat as well, I believe it is a condition of a Colorado Mining permit. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
Many congrats to you Wendy for your service both at the county and at the city. You have been a trooper and a huge balancing place in the county and city in all of your years. While we didn't always agree on issues and many times did, your leadership has been of hero nature. Your balanced and thoughtful judgment will always be appreciated, best of luck in retirement, I don't know if there is repreive for us work-aholics, I hope you find yours. Keep your phone number as private as you want to, as we will all want to randomly question what you know about a certain thing. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
The van "in question" was owned and operated by the Stahoviak's, the County Commissioners get no more nor no less privelege or benefits than what are made to the regular workforce of the county. If it is to you Mr. Wonderful Scott Selby that you think the Commissioners should have sought restitution from Mr. Stahoviak and ultimately force them into Bankrupcy, I offer the following, we would not have done such to any of our regular workforce, nor would we have done such to a public servant who has offered 18 years of public service to the benefit of Routt County. The Commissioners will continue to do all of the things that we believe are in the best interest of the majority of our citizens, and you can rest assured that we are going to go to bat for our workforce- all of them. Doug Monger County Commissioner
Just so everyone knows, the county budget gets only a small share of the lease proceeds. The lease has to be distributed to all of the taxing districts that have a mill levy on the property(majority goes to the school district). The last lease that the County let, the Hayden school district got approximately $160,000, the amount that the school district was going to be short for the upcoming school year in their budget. For all following the lease activity in Moffat County these leases amount to major money for struggling governmental budgets. It should also be noted that the adjoining properties are already leased out, and that to drill and excercise the lease, the project proponents have to go through a stringent Special Use Permit process to mitigate issues. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
Scott, all three of the BCC districts presently (since at least 1990)include portions of the City of SS. District #3 is entirely in the city, District #2 includes areas in North and West SS, and District #1 includes areas in East and South SS. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
YV Boy, don't be so thankful yet, the proposal is to have a tax among the taxing district. As the articles have elaborated the proposal and the current district is similar to the Steamboat Rural Fire Protection District. So if you are covered by the fire district, you will be covered by an increased tax.
doug monger 7 months ago on Candidates for county commissioner, statehouse spar over government's role
Candidates for county commissioner, statehouse spar over government's role
Sorry Festus, thought it was in the ball park, at any rate, I was just making the point in how vulnerable the county is to fuel price increases when we are running all of this heavy equipment around. Doug Monger
doug monger 7 months, 2 weeks ago on House District 26 candidates spar over importance of oil and gas to economy
House District 26 candidates spar over importance of oil and gas to economy
John, I believe that Three Forks built their new lodge in Wyoming because they did not want to pay Routt County Taxes. The county had a little go around with them when they would not let the assessor on the property to value the commercial assets associated with the earlier lodge. Then the assessor had some push back on which assets were used in the commercial lodging operation and which assets were agriculture tools. That was not to mention that they were not in compliance with Colorado Liquor Codes and were required to get a Liquor License. The county did not hear any complaints about the building department, in fact we heard compliments on the building department about them promptly doing inspections way up there and not holding back the construction activity. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
doug monger 8 months, 1 week ago on Tyler Knott: Thanks for follow up
Tyler Knott: Thanks for follow up
Tyler, thanks for the comments, I would clarify that the first article was in relation to SEVERED, not dormant mineral rights(there is no classification for dormant mineral rights). That discussion started and includes the conversation that some people have paid their taxes on these severed mineral rights for over 100 years and hence are not allowed to recoup their taxes or profit on their private property interests. The article was I believe to put into perspective how much the investment of private property interests were in relation to the Severed mineral interests and to the property tax implications as a whole. The second part of the same conversation is that those property owners that still directly own the mineral interests are not charged additional taxes for their mineral interests still owned. The last part and most crucial part of whole conversation is that Routt County needs to have the conversation about is if we have oil and gas, (CONSIDERING TABOR) will we reduce the taxes to the other property tax payers (as required by TABOR) or will we not (through election) and will we have the discussion to "Debruce" like Garfield County so that additional property taxes from energy development will be allowed to build up and or directly deal with the affects of extraction. Taxpayers will have the ability short term to get a free ride from the energy interests and allow other property interests to LIVE OFF of the energy business in a non sustainable situation or we the taxpayers can continue to pay their fair share and the county can Bank and invest the windfall of Energy do deal with the effects and ramnifications of energy. We need to remember that when the energy business goes away, so does their revenue (very much similar to the building boom that we had intermitantly observed during the last 30 years) hence the cliff affect. Doug Monger
doug monger 9 months ago on 4 new energy companies seek drilling permits in Routt County
4 new energy companies seek drilling permits in Routt County
Bob, I actually like a lot of Mark's comments, my comment was not to dis on Mark but to make sure people know more facts to base their decision on. Thanks Doug Monger
doug monger 9 months ago on 4 new energy companies seek drilling permits in Routt County
4 new energy companies seek drilling permits in Routt County
Mark, actually the landfill has a total circle field of monitoring wells to monitor the water around the landfill and to gauge the impact on the Yampa. I can't remember the number, but Routt County Environmental Health has the number. I believe it is between four to six. The coal mines also have monitoring wells all around their mine sites, basically a perimeter of monitoring wells. That is not only in Routt, but is in Moffat as well, I believe it is a condition of a Colorado Mining permit. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
doug monger 1 year, 7 months ago on DuBord to retire from post as deputy city manager
DuBord to retire from post as deputy city manager
Many congrats to you Wendy for your service both at the county and at the city. You have been a trooper and a huge balancing place in the county and city in all of your years. While we didn't always agree on issues and many times did, your leadership has been of hero nature. Your balanced and thoughtful judgment will always be appreciated, best of luck in retirement, I don't know if there is repreive for us work-aholics, I hope you find yours. Keep your phone number as private as you want to, as we will all want to randomly question what you know about a certain thing. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
doug monger 1 year, 9 months ago on Nancy Stahoviak returns to courthouse
Nancy Stahoviak returns to courthouse
The van "in question" was owned and operated by the Stahoviak's, the County Commissioners get no more nor no less privelege or benefits than what are made to the regular workforce of the county. If it is to you Mr. Wonderful Scott Selby that you think the Commissioners should have sought restitution from Mr. Stahoviak and ultimately force them into Bankrupcy, I offer the following, we would not have done such to any of our regular workforce, nor would we have done such to a public servant who has offered 18 years of public service to the benefit of Routt County. The Commissioners will continue to do all of the things that we believe are in the best interest of the majority of our citizens, and you can rest assured that we are going to go to bat for our workforce- all of them. Doug Monger County Commissioner
doug monger 2 years, 1 month ago on Proposals to lease oil, gas and other mineral interests owned by Routt County
Proposals to lease oil, gas and other mineral interests owned by Routt County
Just so everyone knows, the county budget gets only a small share of the lease proceeds. The lease has to be distributed to all of the taxing districts that have a mill levy on the property(majority goes to the school district). The last lease that the County let, the Hayden school district got approximately $160,000, the amount that the school district was going to be short for the upcoming school year in their budget. For all following the lease activity in Moffat County these leases amount to major money for struggling governmental budgets. It should also be noted that the adjoining properties are already leased out, and that to drill and excercise the lease, the project proponents have to go through a stringent Special Use Permit process to mitigate issues. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
doug monger 2 years, 2 months ago on Routt County population grows 19 percent in past decade; rate slightly outpaces state
Routt County population grows 19 percent in past decade; rate slightly outpaces state
Scott, all three of the BCC districts presently (since at least 1990)include portions of the City of SS. District #3 is entirely in the city, District #2 includes areas in North and West SS, and District #1 includes areas in East and South SS. Doug Monger Routt County Commissioner
doug monger 2 years, 3 months ago on Yampa Valley Housing Authority panel details tax increase recommendations
Yampa Valley Housing Authority panel details tax increase recommendations
YV Boy, don't be so thankful yet, the proposal is to have a tax among the taxing district. As the articles have elaborated the proposal and the current district is similar to the Steamboat Rural Fire Protection District. So if you are covered by the fire district, you will be covered by an increased tax.