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I don't care what you call it, it was really good quality snow, not too heavy, not too light and much, much needed. More on the way for the run up to Christmas week. Perfect timing! Thank you Mother Nature!
Scott I agree that affordable housing shouldn't be thought of as something that must be in Steamboat. It just isn't practical and there isn't enough land. Market forces will determine the allocation of scarce resources, AKA land. Even though Stagecoach and Oak Creek may be a little closer than Hayden, the issue for me is the lack of infrastructure. There would need to be enough classrooms, people need to be able to buy gas for their car locally, they need be able to shop locally for groceries, there needs to be fire and police protection, sufficient water and sewer systems in place, etc. Hayden already has all of this and South Routt could add the necessary services but it's the old chicken and the egg thing. Investors will not be willing to build affordable housing without the infrastructure in place, and no one is going to build the infrastructure without the tax base from the increased population.
I never understood why Habitat for Humanity thought it would be practical to build in Steamboat. They seem to be blind to the fact that Steamboat is a resort town, whether people want to think of it that way or not. Demand for resort properties will always be relatively high and the resources are scarce. They aren't making any more land. I believe that developments like Lakeview Village in Hayden would work very well for the Habitat model. Hayden has the infrastructure already in place to accommodate growth. The commute is really not bad compared to the commute that most people deal with in any city. Mass transit to and from Steamboat could also be used just as these "park and ride"systems are utilized in larger cities. I don't believe that Stagecoach and Oak Creek are viable alternatives because of the commute. Traveling through the canyon on 131 or increased traffic on 14 just doesn't seem practical without major improvements to the roadways and that's not going to happen. The opportunity for affordable housing exists in Hayden right now. There are homes already built, on the market and ready to be occupied in Hayden right now that are cheaper per square foot than the cost of buying land in Steamboat, paying permit and tap fees and building even the most inexpensive home. Never made sense to me.
As I said John, those who have nothing intelligent to say have nothing left but anger and frustration. Maybe I can get you so frustrated that you totally blow a fuse and you get banned. That would be a huge improvement to the opportunity we all have for a civil, intelligent debate. Spelling check, should have been mystique, not mystic. Jerry, not sensitive at all, it's just none of your business, but if your really that curious, now you now how to find out instead of wasting everyones time here. Maybe you can do the deficit reduction calculation in your spare time. I'm a little busy. I was responding to the accusation that the deficit wasn't being reduced. So there you go.
Whoa, whoa,whoa, I thought I was the "rat" who got Steve banned. It was going to add to my mystic and help to create that little nagging feeling that I just might be that powerful and hold sway with the ed staff. Here's the deal children, your ability to comment here is solely at the discretion of the Pilot ed staff. You have no constitutional rights, you have no free speech rights, you got nothin! You either act like adults and debate the issues and avoid ad hominem, (personal), attacks or threats and be civil and don't use profanity, (even by omitting or substituting letters), or you may/will be banned and I'll be the one turning your sorry self in and I'll tell you all about it! How hard is that to understand. And I still have trouble understanding how some people feel like it is a badge of honor to insult people, like they think they're one of the "cool kids"or something. I would think you would be embarrassed by your childish and immature behavior, but instead you somehow feel proud and complain about being "ratted out" as you call it. Reminds me of kids who sit in the back of class and throw spit balls and make fun of the smart kids. Very bizarre behavior indeed. Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. Maybe a little "tact" and civility could be employed by those who feel the necessity to tell someone to "go to hell." The anger stems from not having anything intelligent to say, and or frustration when you realize that your ideological pre-concieved notions are destroyed by fact, logic and the truth. Conservatives tend to be angry and riddled with fear anyway. The combination of anger and fear equals hate. There is no place for hate in a reasonable discussion. Topic switch. Jerry C., what business is it of yours where I work or what I do for a living? I'll give you a tip, they got this thing called the internet and on the internet they got these things called search engines. You can go on there and look me up and find out what you want to know. You can also go to the ski area this winter and look for me there. I'm there almost everyday and Im not hard to miss. I'll be wearing neon green pants and a really bright blue jacket with white letters on the back and I got a gold pin and a white name tag on the front of my jacket. See if you can keep up.
Rules are rules boys and girls. If you can't play by em, get out of the sandbox. Maybe you guys should set up a betting pool to see who will be next to go. Who will get so frustrated with me that they totally blow a gasket and get banned. You could set up a little calendar with squares and you could put your initials on a square. Might be kinda fun. I would love to take credit for the demise of Steve M. however I had nothing to do with it and didn't even know about the Pilot policy at that time. It wasn't until his removal that I learned there was a policy. While that boy certainly had issues, I don't remember him being crude and insulting, just plum nuts. I still think he went underground voluntarily, succumbed to his paranoid delusions would be my guess. Hey but if you want to blame me I'm good with it. The truth is irrelevant anyway to the tribe on this forum, it just gets in everybody's way and becomes a big pain in the rear. Oh, almost forgot, the deficit as a share of GDP, that's how it's measured, has been cut roughly in half during the Obama Presidency. In 2009 the deficit was 9.8% of GDP. As of 2013 it is 4.1% of GDP. The CBO projection for 2014 is a reduction of 508 billion or 2.9% of GDP. There. If your only source of news and information is Fox News then of course you wouldn't have heard of this. You could have also looked this up yourself and saved me the time. So there are the facts and your answer. Argue about that for awhile. I'm sure if I said the earth was round you'd say it was flat, or if I said it was night, you'd say it was day, or if I said the sky was blue, you'd say it was green. Like I said who cares, believe what you want.
Hey John, hahahahahahahahha! Spanked! The real shame is that you can't act like an adult and debate without insulting people. Sad and pathetic.
John my call to the editor worked out really well. You must have got a good spankin cause you've toned down your personal insults quite a bit. They're still there, and they are still there with the rest of the "tribe", but they're more subtle and not as obscene, must be difficult for you all having to deal with someone who doesn't agree with you. Cindy we are really not that far apart. Better be careful, you'll be called a "libby." Two thirds of registered voters ddn't show up, that's just a fact, not my opinion. I can't explain why liberal amendments passed and republicans were elected to congress. Like I said schizophrenic. Don't agree with you on health insurance obviously, or that the Presidents policies are unpopular, other wise he wouldn't have been re-elected, or the the ACA is dragging down the economy. No evidence and the economy is doing quite well even with the disfunction in Washington. Agree that the republican party needs to do some serious work on it's messaging. The party's approval rating is somewhere in the twenties, congress in the single digits if think, democrats in the thirties and the President at forty two percent, I think. I believe that is why many of the posters here won't say that they are republicans. Again, got to be careful lest I be accused of putting words in someones mouth, they claim to be independent, but they vote GOP party line, I bet, and support right wing policies. So I say, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck! Dan K. the comments I made in the past were in self defense and I realized I was getting dragged down into the gutter with your little group so I stopped and apologized. What else do you want me to do? I didn't say, once again, that you dispute the numbers, but what you are doing is trying to spin them to seem bad when they are good. You must be getting dizzy! Yes some people may have stopped looking for work, but 5.8% is still good! Hundreds of thousands of jobs are being added every month, even with the job killing ACA, and have been for over 50 months as opposed to losing 800,000 a month under Bush. I stand by all of my quotes that you cited. You are always asking me to prove stuff, prove my quotes wrong. As for gas prices, the latest story I heard is that the Saudis are refusing to cooperate with the other OPEC nations and refuse to limit the supply of oil because they want to increase their market share. So more supply equals cheaper gas. May have no direct correlation the President but I think it is fair to say that increased production in the US and increases in bio-fuels and alternative energy sources coupled with decreased demand due to fuel economy standards doesn't hurt. As for the stock market, the markets gave always been considered an indicator of how business view the economy in the future. The markets hate uncertainty, so the markets are bullish on the future and guess who is President.
Dan K. I don't understand your BLM thing. Sorry. Like I said you can come up with all sorts of excuses about the economic success during the Obama Presidency and how he has had nothing to do with the success. Who cares? And it is equally certain, like I said earlier, that if the economy was tanking you'd be claiming that the numbers were irrefutable proof that his policies were a failure. You know it! John, just this morning when I walked out of my house I marveled at how clean and fresh the air was. I'll never forget how wonderful it is to be able to breath clean fresh air and drink clean water from my well every day. Even after more that twenty years I still marvel at it and at how blue the sky is. Don't get that in LA. That's why I'm so passionate about making sure it stays that way. Unless you've grown up breathing filthy polluted air, I'm not sure you can fully appreciate what I am saying. I moved here for that and because I don't want to worry about being shot, except now maybe by some right wing nut job militiamen, I don't want to sit in traffic and deal with crowds. I came her to Steamboat because I wanted to work at a world class resort, guess I got that wrong according to you, and enjoy the equestrian community. Still don't understand how or why you would think I would want to bring crowds, gangs, traffic, dirty air and water to Steamboat. Makes no sense at all. Anyway, you are stuck with me and I ain't movin til I'm good and ready, so too bad. I have absolutely no idea what you could possibly be talking about regarding Californians and whatever, it's not intelligible.
Cindy, glad you also see how posters like getting down in the dirt, this is nothing, you should have seen it before I had to call the editor and turn in the worst offender. Glad you're an adult and wouldn't go there. I agree with you more than you think. Big corporations like GE should pay taxes. I think we can all agree that tax reform is needed. Not everyone is born to be a chief, somebody has got to be the indian. I agree completely and this is the basis of many progressive ideals. The difference is that I believe access to insurance is a right and not a privilege. I also believe government should be responsible for making sure that insurance companies cannot discriminate. I believe that it is the responsibility of a just and civilized society to feed it's hungry, house it's homeless and offer a hand up to it's poor. I don't believe that we can rely on the goodness of others in the form of private donations to provide these services and fund organizations such as Planned Parenthood. Private donations could have never covered the costs of hurricanes Sandy and Katrina. Nor were there enough private investors who could have saved the auto industry. Thank goodness that the auto industry was saved or we could have had a major economic depression rather than a recession. But that's just me and part of what the progressive movement is all about. You mentioned that you use health savings accounts and the like to cover your medical costs. I personally use Care Credit and pay off my bills over time. I also take care of myself, don't smoke or drink alcohol and stay in good physical condition. These are all fine alternatives to health insurance except in the case of a catastrophic illness. Cancer, heart attack, stroke all can happen to even those in perfect physical condition. So that is the purpose of the ACA, to insure that no one goes broke and losses their home because they got sick. The President and I and many other progressives recognize that there are problems with the ACA, it is by no means perfect, but it's a start. We would have preferred a public option that would of forced private insurance companies to compete and provided an option to purchase a plan offered through the federal government. That idea was rejected by republicans in congress and the republican alternative is the individual mandate that you all complain so much about. It's possible that more people would be on full time work if the ACA went away but like I said, then millions wouldn't have access to heath insurance. You can't have em both just yet. The President is acting on the mandate that he was given by the voters who elected him twice. In my opinion he hasn't done enough to push through more progressive policies. The mid term election included only about one third of registered voters and included a large percentage of older white voters and many progressives just didn't show up. This is certainly not a mandate.
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