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Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. Heck in 8 years maybe Chelsea will be ready. Thought the likes of Washongton, Jefferson, Adams etc left England to get away from this stuff. We get the elected officials we deserve.
From my perspective our community does not have an affordable housing problem. There is plenty of affordable housing in Craig, Hayden, Oak Creek, Stagecoach. Yep they will need to transport themselves to their place of employment but they did figure out a way to get here just maybe they can figure out a way to get work. Yep, they need to take personal responsibility for their choice to move here and make enough money to support the lifestyle they choose. I presume you did so why shouldn't they. Please don't tell me you think we need subsidized transportation to those locations in addition to the subsidized transportation we have in Steamboat. Got no problem with the camping by the way. Not my thing, never been a camper but people enjoy it and good on them
Dan S now accuses me of being angry and frustrated and says I don't read his material. Neither could be further from the truth, but then the truth appears to be a novel concept for Dan S. Obviously I read your stuff and then properly quote you to highlight your ideology. I also read your stuff as it gives me great material for some of my posts. Thank so much and please keep on posting.😉 I truly enjoy reading and responding to your posts.
Dan S. You accuse me of skimming, you accuse me of cherry picking, you accuse me of being in a clan. Proof please. Not your BS,read your own posts that you usually write. I have used actual quotes from you. Give me my quotes that confirm your accusations. You are so full of accusations regards any one that would dare do actual research, actually read your blather and call you out on it. This is so easy. Actually as you refuse to answer how much of an increase in taxes you would accept to subsidze the affordable housing that you have claimed low wage workers in Steamboat "need" I doubt you will reply to this with any thing other than your lefty liberal talking points or more false accusations. I can hardly wait for your reply.
Having had the privilege of spending time on the ski slopes with Jon and considering myself a music trivia guy I can verify that Jon Ruehle rocks when it comes to knowledge of music. Also thanks to Jon I know where every elevator in the Sheraton is. You rock dude. Congrats on your success and keep on "space truckin". You probably know who recorded that.
Russell Scott says "Maybe the solution is to let people live with their choices and quit subsidizing their lifestyles." and I say amen. What a great statement. it's all about personal responsibility. Make choices and deal with any consequences.
Dan S says I cherry picked. Actually I just used his actual quotes. You clearly made comments that advocate for public housing. They are on this thread. If you want to tell me some one else used your log in to post go ahead. He advocates for public housing and then says he doesn't. But that is Dan S. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. He is the lefty liberal idealogue that has no problem speaking mistruths as long as they fulfill his ideology. I am soooo tired of it and yet I enjoy it as it highlights his views. Dan S. please tell me about my little "clan". I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you referring to the clan of guys that use pressure cookers to make meals. If so I plead guilty as charged. What if the low wage workers that you say "need" affordable housing have to pay to ride the bus. I can just visualize the steam coming out of your years. LOL. And of course you refuse to answer a simple question because I am a simple person. How much are you willing to contribute from your paycheck to subsidize the affordable housing that you were for before you were neither for or against. You are a hoot.
In his most recent post Dan S says "I said I wasn't advocating for or against affordable housing. There, I said it again in case you missed it."
9 days ago in this thread Dan S said "Affordable housing is important to a tourist driven economy so that the essential low wage workers can have a place to live."
8 days ago in this thread Dan S said this "Resort towns are dependent on low wage workers and these workers have to have some where affordable to live. This is a common issue with resort towns and nothing new. The free market capitalist system will not fill the need for affordable housing. The profits just aren't there or the need would be filled. That's one of the reasons we have gubbamint. To step in and fill a need that is for the common good of all, when the free market system fails to do so."
5 days ago in this thread Dan S. says this "There are in fact societal "needs," maybe you prefer to call them wants, but I call them needs, that must be met in order for an economy to sustain itself. Needs like a habitable place to live that is affordable. Affordable can be defined as a percentage of income. In order for a resort economy to be sustainable and even grow, there must be a supply of low wage workers. You know, people to clean the rooms, wait tables, teach skiing, etc. These workers "need" to be able to afford to live in the community where they work in order to be productive. Affordable housing is of course not the "highest and best use" of the scarce resource, "land." There is not sufficient profit motive to attract investors to build affordable housing in resort communities, therefore government must step in and provide the incentive."
Yep Dan S. you are definitely not advocating for public housing. AHAHAHAHAHA! What a bunch of hooey. Do you even read your own stuff or just throw your lefty liberal talking points against the wall and hope they stick.
Also love your dig at those who disagree with you "Russell, I'm glad you enjoy the comments, back and forth and educated arguments. Sometimes I'm not so sure about the educated part." Or maybe you were referring to yourself. LOL!
And again I will ask - How much of an increase in taxes are you willing to absorb to subsidize affordable housing that you were for before you apparently flip flopped and said you are neither for or against?
Dan S says I criticize the ACA with layers and layers of doomsday predictions. Dan S please cite examples where I did that. What I provided were real examples of problems that are occurring now. I do get tired of your mistruths. You say it is working for you and millions of others. Wow, tremendous. What about the millions upon millions that had a plan, were told they could keep their plan and then lost there plan. Just battlefield collateral damage and no matter to you. No surprise to me. It's all about touting the left wing liberal ideology regardless of the damage it might inflict. Sad, in a funny kind of way. By the way, still waiting for your answer on who should pay, subsidize affordable housing in Steamboat and how much you Dan S are personally willing to contribute in increased taxes or is the reality that you want subsidized affordable housing as long as you don't need to contribute.
Dan S. As you brought up the ACA in this forum - Is this the one you are talking about - the if you like your plan you can keep your plan.
Is this the same ACA you are lauding?
O and by the way. I do believe out health care industry has issues and needs to be fixed. Start by doing away with all the regulations that require so much paperwork that providers are buried. But your government is not the answer. All they do is spend money we don't have and pass laws we don't need.
Some snippets from the interweb using the google.
The miraculous, efficient, cost-saving, innovative 21st-century government-run “marketplaces” were supposed to put the “affordable” in Obama’s Affordable Care Act. Know-it-all bureaucrats were going to show private companies how to set up better websites (gigglesnort), implement better marketing and outreach (guffaw), provide superior customer service (belly laugh), and eliminate waste, fraud and abuse (LOLOLOL).
You will be shocked beyond belief, I’m sure, to learn that Obamacare exchanges across the country are instead bleeding money, seeking more taxpayer bailouts
“Almost half of Obamacare exchanges face financial struggles in the future,” The Washington Post reported last week. The news comes despite $5 billion in federal taxpayer subsidies for IT vendors, call centers and all the infrastructure and manpower needed to prop up the showcase government health insurance entities.
While private health insurance exchanges have operated smoothly and satisfied customers for decades, the Obamacare models are on life support. Oregon’s exchange is six feet under — shuttered last year after government overseers squandered $300 million on their failed website and shady consultants who allegedly set up a phony website to trick the feds. The FBI and the U.S. HHS inspector general’s office reportedly have been investigating the racket for more than a year now.
In the People’s Republic of Hawaii, which has been a “trailblazer” of socialized medicine for nearly four decades, the profligate state-run exchange demanded a nearly $30 million cash infusion to remain financially viable after securing $205 million for startup costs. The Hawaii Health Connector accidentally disconnected hundreds of poor patients’ accounts and squandered an estimated 8,000 hours on technological glitches and failures. After failing to secure a bailout, Hawaii announced this week that its exchange would be shut down amid rising debt.
In Maryland, a state audit found that its health insurance exchange “improperly billed the federal government $28.4 million as former Gov. Martin O’Malley’s administration struggled to launch what would become one of the most troubled websites in the nation,” The Baltimore Sun reported in late March. That’s in addition to the $90 million the state blew on technical problems. The state scrapped its junk website and forced enrollees to resubmit to the tortuous sign-up process all over again.
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