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with the wizard of oz pontificating on every thread why we would we poor slugs even bother
Thank you YVEA for your hard work getting the power back on. Sleep well tonight.
Here is a conspiracy theory for you. City Council approved this project to justify parking meters downtown.
I will preface this by saying I am sorry for the extreme partisanship this reply entails. LOL
You get no argument from me. The whole process has become a mess. Too many vested interests throwing money around to try to achieve their wants and desires. As far as I am concerned both parties can be blown up and we can start over. It appears Trump is in the process of doing so to the Republicans. Whether he wins or loses, in my opinion the Republican party will not be the same. I believe that is a good thing. We shall see what the Democratic party looks like after this election cycle. I am not sure the Republicans intentions are to make sure the Judicial system doesn't function properly, I think given that Aaron Rodgers did it twice this past football season they are hoping to complete that hail mary pass and see a Republican in the white house. For what ever reason they apparently don't believe there is risk in doing so.
You said "I think it is clear that you implied Democrats started it by pointing to Democrats as being the comparable example. That implies the Democrats started it." I have a silly question. If my point was and will continue to be that both sides have plenty of blame and it is currently the Republicans that are being blamed wouldn't a reasonable person give an example of a time the Democrats did a similar thing to show that indeed both sides are to blame. How does that even come close to implying I said the Democrats started it? How does that qualify me as an extreme partisan. Had I used Republicans instead of Democrats as the "comparable example" then how could I say both sides have plenty of blame? It doesn't matter why the Democrats delayed Judge Owen's confirmation hearing. The fact of the matter is that they did so, they had the ability to do so just as it does not matter what the reason is for the Republicans to delay a hearing on Garland.
So the bottom line is you have no proof that I ever said that the Democrats started it and the reason there is no proof is because I did not say it. You can say that I implied it and you are free to have that opinion but you would be wrong and like Fonzie you find it difficult to admit you are wrong. Makes me wonder who really has the "extreme partisan viewpoint".
Scott, you offer some valuable insights in this forum from time to time but some times you are out of line and just plain wrong. This would be one of the times you are out of line and wrong. If you want to continue to defend the indefensible, have at it.
If some one is trying to have a dialogue with you and is treating you with respect you might consider doing the same rather then making false statements.
The point is both sides do it. As the conversation has revolved around the current refusal of Republican held senate to hold hearings I offered the balance of an example of when a Democratic senate acted in a similar manner. Simple as that. No "extreme partisan viewpoint" that you imply I have. Why you would do so is unfortunate but if you want to make false statements about people, so be it. Again I ask for proof that I said or even implied that the Democrats started it.
Pray tell. Are you stating that I am saying the Democrats started it. If so - proof please. My point has been and will continue to be that there is plenty of blame on both sides. The fact that what either party has done concerning holding hearings and voting for judicial nominees is not, from a legal perspective, "wrong" makes me wonder why you would state "So an example of wrongs causing more wrongs justifying more wrongs."
I would argue that congress not passing so many bills is not necessarily a bad thing. We have had bills passed into law that were not necessary and quite frankly we have too many laws. If congress were to do some thing good it would be to review and eliminate laws that are unnecessary.
Also it is not just Republicans that take their time having hearing and taking votes for judicial nominees.
Take the case of Judge Priscilla Owen
Owen was a moderate and she was highly rated. She was also no Alito, Bork or Thomas. But when she was nominated for the Fifth Circuit in the spring of '01, Senate Democrats denied her a vote for four years until the spring of '05. When the vote finally came up, Obama voted against her.
That's the length of an entire presidential term. This wasn't running out the clock on a lame duck presidency. Senate Democrats refused the "up and down vote" they're demanding to a nominee for 4 years.
Craig, you rock. Thanks for welcoming Pam and I into the STARS family 4 years ago. Good luck in your new ventures.
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