justathought--another note about paying cash. Because of the amount I need to pay with the $5,000 out of my pocket first I have gone to the saw-bones and they charge my credit card an amount such as $125.00. About 2 weeks later I get a check from the saw-bones office for $45.00 because the insurance only will allow the charge of $80.00 for what they did.
Be much easier to post a price list of the amount they are willing to accept for the work they do and we get to pay it.
Even the gas stations are willing to accept a discount for cash because the credit card outfits charge so much to charge the credit care on the purchase--normally about 2 per cent.
If a normal item such as an eye exam runs $55.00 then what I find is it runs $90.00 if you are willing to pay cash. If you have insurance then the saw-bones bills the insurance company for the charge (and this involves another employee to do this) for the charge, then pisses and moans because the insurance outfit wants the item to be according to their standards of billing--takes 30 to 90 days to pay them--and then only pays them $55.00 because that is what they have on file with the insurance company and the saw-bones. In my case I know this because they send my a refund of the overcharge. Further, some of the info says they only collect on 80 percent of the billings to the insurance industry.
Cash talks with all industry except medical. Medical creates many of their own problems.
One last word--I am happy that the insurance company keeps the lid on the outrageous charges the medical industry could charge. They make a profit. That is American. Think about going naked without someone putting a lid on the saw-bones.
justathought--I have always had insurance, but with high deducts--i. e., $5,000 out of my pocket first. What i find is the price for something like burning off a wart is higher if you do not have insurance and want to pay cash. If the office bills the insurance it bills at the rate they agree to with the insurance company and it is lower than paying cash. Medical is the only industry I am aware of that works this way. Cash talks in all others.
Good luck on this one. Why is the health care system one of the only trade that charges a premium to pay cash? If you go in to get something done and it is billed to an insurance company the charges are about half or less than what they are if you save the office the problem of billing the insurance company and wait for the payment by paying on the spot. This alone drives most of us into the insurance company. The medical system will not reward us for paying the bills in a prompt manner.
How about we keep sending our money to the Middle East for oil? The worth of this at todays market is over 20 billion dollars. That way they can come back over here with the money we sent them and buy the mountains, ski slope, most everything in the valley. Oh yeah, they would most likely drill for oil then. They have their sides hurting now from laughing at the President going over to ask, "gee guys, would you increase the oil for us--we don't want to drill in our country?"
the comment of duh is from what i do not remember as my password. Please forgive this.
am interested, would the code dudes find anything to protest in the inspection of the iron horse? Wonder if they are interested in inspecting this. Do they cook there?
I hqve been coming to the great area of Steamboat since 1983 to ski, but if the living wage is greater than the amount paid then the area needs to look more. Making someone live in a condition that is outside the conditions of the local code enforcement is not correct., close the place and move on. Let the marketplace dictate what is to the price. If the price of my coming in one or two times a year is to force someone to live in a substandard place is the price, raise the price and if I am willing to pay it, go on with it--if not--that is progress.
Final item, I am willing to pay more to let those that make my trip fun to live. I find it offensive to pay to as an example the Iron Horse City deal to supplement those that will pay decent wages to those that make my trips/fun possible. If the Shearton cannot pay a decent wage to those that make my one or two trips possible, something else needs to be done.
The tower may be at someone's expense, the half million each year to run it is paid for by the airport--not the FAA. That reads everyone in the valley. Both airports function well without a tower now. That might not be the case if Bob Adams is closed.
Add another half million per year if it is closed. Remember the go around a month or two ago when one of the jets was landing at yampa and another aircraft was on the runway? This is something you will do at an uncontrolled airport. I fly a Cessna and have done it many times. The question about adding a controller at yampa came up and the cost was about a half million a year. If you add the 82 aircraft at Bob Adams to yampa plan on the airlines insisting the controller be added to yampa because on the general aviation traffic.
Hashing out health care
justathought--another note about paying cash. Because of the amount I need to pay with the $5,000 out of my pocket first I have gone to the saw-bones and they charge my credit card an amount such as $125.00. About 2 weeks later I get a check from the saw-bones office for $45.00 because the insurance only will allow the charge of $80.00 for what they did.
Be much easier to post a price list of the amount they are willing to accept for the work they do and we get to pay it.
Even the gas stations are willing to accept a discount for cash because the credit card outfits charge so much to charge the credit care on the purchase--normally about 2 per cent.
If a normal item such as an eye exam runs $55.00 then what I find is it runs $90.00 if you are willing to pay cash. If you have insurance then the saw-bones bills the insurance company for the charge (and this involves another employee to do this) for the charge, then pisses and moans because the insurance outfit wants the item to be according to their standards of billing--takes 30 to 90 days to pay them--and then only pays them $55.00 because that is what they have on file with the insurance company and the saw-bones. In my case I know this because they send my a refund of the overcharge. Further, some of the info says they only collect on 80 percent of the billings to the insurance industry.
Cash talks with all industry except medical. Medical creates many of their own problems.
One last word--I am happy that the insurance company keeps the lid on the outrageous charges the medical industry could charge. They make a profit. That is American. Think about going naked without someone putting a lid on the saw-bones.
July 14, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Hashing out health care
justathought--I have always had insurance, but with high deducts--i. e., $5,000 out of my pocket first. What i find is the price for something like burning off a wart is higher if you do not have insurance and want to pay cash. If the office bills the insurance it bills at the rate they agree to with the insurance company and it is lower than paying cash. Medical is the only industry I am aware of that works this way. Cash talks in all others.
July 14, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Hashing out health care
Good luck on this one. Why is the health care system one of the only trade that charges a premium to pay cash? If you go in to get something done and it is billed to an insurance company the charges are about half or less than what they are if you save the office the problem of billing the insurance company and wait for the payment by paying on the spot. This alone drives most of us into the insurance company. The medical system will not reward us for paying the bills in a prompt manner.
July 14, 2008 at 3:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Interest in oil rising
How about we keep sending our money to the Middle East for oil? The worth of this at todays market is over 20 billion dollars. That way they can come back over here with the money we sent them and buy the mountains, ski slope, most everything in the valley. Oh yeah, they would most likely drill for oil then. They have their sides hurting now from laughing at the President going over to ask, "gee guys, would you increase the oil for us--we don't want to drill in our country?"
June 23, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Apartment not up to code
the comment of duh is from what i do not remember as my password. Please forgive this.
am interested, would the code dudes find anything to protest in the inspection of the iron horse? Wonder if they are interested in inspecting this. Do they cook there?
I hqve been coming to the great area of Steamboat since 1983 to ski, but if the living wage is greater than the amount paid then the area needs to look more. Making someone live in a condition that is outside the conditions of the local code enforcement is not correct., close the place and move on. Let the marketplace dictate what is to the price. If the price of my coming in one or two times a year is to force someone to live in a substandard place is the price, raise the price and if I am willing to pay it, go on with it--if not--that is progress.
Final item, I am willing to pay more to let those that make my trip fun to live. I find it offensive to pay to as an example the Iron Horse City deal to supplement those that will pay decent wages to those that make my trips/fun possible. If the Shearton cannot pay a decent wage to those that make my one or two trips possible, something else needs to be done.
June 20, 2008 at 5:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Apartment not up to code
duh
June 20, 2008 at 5:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
What to do with the check
Enjoy the money. The govt. gave us notice we would not get a check, only a bill for the other checks that went out.
May 4, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Airport studies complete
The tower may be at someone's expense, the half million each year to run it is paid for by the airport--not the FAA. That reads everyone in the valley. Both airports function well without a tower now. That might not be the case if Bob Adams is closed.
April 8, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Airport studies complete
Add another half million per year if it is closed. Remember the go around a month or two ago when one of the jets was landing at yampa and another aircraft was on the runway? This is something you will do at an uncontrolled airport. I fly a Cessna and have done it many times.
The question about adding a controller at yampa came up and the cost was about a half million a year. If you add the 82 aircraft at Bob Adams to yampa plan on the airlines insisting the controller be added to yampa because on the general aviation traffic.
April 8, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )