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Hello Scott, George and Frank -
Thank you very much for your perspective and impassioned responses to this article. You gentlemen raise a lot of good questions and points, however, given that nowhere near all of the facts were presented in this article - I would ask that you consider this as more of a “preview” or rough draft than the finished set of options to be put forth. In many ways, the article is premature and/or lacks nearly all of the supporting factual data that our committee researched and considered when crafting these options...
My schedule at the moment will not allow me to get sucked down this rabbit hole, defending or defining what we/I considered to be facts during the process we took to arrive at these solutions. I will just say that there is much, much more information coming and I hope that the three of you will stay engaged in the process while keeping an open mind in your consideration of the options we are putting forth to the community for feedback.
To Frank and George’s point: Kevin Sankey did an outstanding job conveying why is a very large message with tons of nuance and detail, in a very short amount of time last night. This time frame did not allow for the “Problem” to be defined in this setting - keep in mind that this presentation was for CC4E members that are well educated by now on the problems and challenges that we face as a school district and as a growing community. This baseline knowledge, coupled with the format of the presentation allowed for barely a fraction of the details to be discussed or outlined last night, therefore Teresa was not able to convey the message in the way that clearly defines the problem...but I assure you there are problems that we face and that we have invested countless hours in crafting thoughtful and well researched solutions to them - In time, and through this process being allowed to take its course the “right way", the community will have its say in the final solution that is put forward.
**Although I am a CC4E member, these thoughts and opinions are my own and in no way represent the committee’s stance on any given viewpoint or topic.
It is unacceptable that we were not allowed to even have a vote this year. The Dems got to caucus, which is a terrible system as well, but at least their voices were heard. I would have loved the opportunity to vote for Kasich but the powers that be decided that they knew what was "best for me"... I really hope that the whole system implodes and the will of the people is heard next time around...but it won't.
We need to institute a national primary system that does away with caucuses and delegates/"super"delegates and move to a popular vote and only a popular vote.
Don't even get me started on the Electoral College and how useless it is...
Fred & Scott W. -
As a member of the Community Committee For Education, I invite you to please attend the forums. Your knowledge and perspective will be valuable input on the discussions.
To Fred’s point - I want you to know that the committee members will not be the facilitators of the group discussions - we are merely there to listen to the community’s collective input and record what the participants list as their priorities and their perceived problems with the existing schools and proposals for future schools/facilities.
The previous bond measure did not adequately address the concerns of community at-large, and we all saw the result of that at the ballot box. This committee was selected to take a fresh approach to solving the issue of over-crowding at our district schools and offer up a new solution that our community can collectively get behind. While we know that we have our work cut out for us, I believe that we can put forth a solution that moves our school district forward, without impacting the community as severely as the previous initiative would have.
It has been suggested that this committee was selected to be “of the district” or is somehow a puppet group for the School Board, made up solely of ardent SSSD supporters, but I want assure you that is not the case at all. At our first meeting, I asked to see (by show of hands) how many people voted for or against the 2A/2B initiatives - as I began to feel while listening to other committee members speak and bounce ideas around the room, that possibly those allegations may have actually been true - the results were five more “NO’s” than there were “Yes’s”. This should encourage those of you who feel this committee is content to maintain the status quo.
Hope to see you all next week! Please bring your knowledge, an open-mind and a positive attitude.
(**Although I am a member of the Community Committee For Education, the views and opinions expressed here are mine, and not necessarily that of the committee or any other member of the committee.)
This really shouldn’t even BE a question.... I get what the paper is doing and don’t mind them asking the question, but ALL business/property owners are required by city ordinance, aka “LAW”, to build and maintain an ADA compliant sidewalk. The fact the the paper even has to ask this question is the problem here... These property owners should have been assesed years ago!
It is interesting to note that the downtown business community attempted to gain approval to do Tax Increment Financing to make the Yampa Street Promenade a reality, and were told that was not a viable option.
A Business Improvement District was attempted and also failed.
Then the URA debacle... Followed by 3A/3B... And now, this asinine proposal.
Downtown businesses are where flawed plans like this and the school bond have the largest financial impact. Whether via property tax increases or sales tax increases - we take the beating. Yet when we ask to do something, anything, to improve the value of our businesses or increase consumer traffic (spending), by enhancing the overall guest experience - we are told that we are robbing from someone or stealing from some group - be it the schools, the city, the county, the locals, the tourists, the list goes on...
This is a flawed plan that will not help our local businesses and will hurt our local economy by forcing local AND out-of-town consumers to shop online or down in Denver (more so than they already do!)
Until the City Council, County Commissioners and the School Board realize that BUSINESS is what drives our community forward and recognize that the tax revenues (sales and property) collected via our local businesses are pay for most of the wonderful amenities that we as a community enjoy, those three entities (most likely) won’t get anywhere anytime soon.
Once they welcome this fact and start inviting said businesses to “have a seat at the table” when they chart our collective future, we will see a progressive and bright future.
(Scott Bideau propagandizing and posting links to websites he runs in 3......2......1.)
Building the new church for Easter Sunday service attendance....
Huh... It is quite the interesting choice of verbiage in the line “About 11% more on your total property taxes...” - how convenient that the authors of the letter breezed right over the 46% tax increase on businesses/commercial property taxes.
Must have “run out of room” to include that nasty little inconvenient truth. This plan is a plan that, if approved, WILL cause businesses to close their doors and locals to lose their jobs. This plan demands that businesses pay a massively disproportionate share than the homeowners. If this flawed plan passes, understand that the landscape of our local economy will most certainly change. The cost of this measure will be significantly higher to our community than just that of the property tax increase on homes - the price of everything in town, from a loaf of bread to a pair of shoes, from a cheeseburger to T-shirt is going to rise. Businesses will be forced to either eat the cost of the tax increase or pass the costs on to their customers. This is simple economics folks.
How strange the irony that our school board adamantly and vehemently opposed the use of TIF, BID, URA (and any other three letter acronyms you can think of for funding mechanisms) to improve the quality, safety, and functionality of our downtown business corridor that all the while would have increased the value of our properties, and thus their own tax base and subsequent funding - this is a truly special kind of lunacy - and THEN they have the audacity to come before the local business community and attempt to shove a measure down our throats that will make our taxes go up 3.7 times higher (thanks to Gallagher Amendment).
Step 1. VOTE NO ON 3A and 3B.
Step 2. Tell your state legislator to push for a revision of the State constitution that removes the Gallagher amendment and the harmful elements of TABOR.
Step 3. Rewrite the bond to give our community the schools it needs and deserves, while including local business leaders in the discussion to ensure a safe and responsible plan that passes with flying colors.
With total respect to the Pamela Lane neighborhood (who couldn’t understand their position?) and the Botanic Garden (an amazing amenity to the community, no question)… I truly cannot wait to hear everyone’s solutions for how we, as a community, return the 500k in sales tax collections to the city budget.
How do we replace the 200+ jobs that TC Sports' economic impact creates in our valley?
How do we replace the 6 million they spend in our valley on an annual basis? Everyone in town seems to have the answers - I’d love to open that dialogue and move towards a solution to those questions - now that we have told TC Sports to “kick rocks”
Mark my words - they are gone. GONE to another mountain community that actually wants them there, the second they’re contract expires we are going to see nothing but taillights going over the pass…
VOTE YES…. Unless anyone out there has a plan that will bring 6+ million dollars of economic impact and to the Yampa Valley after TC Sports packs up and tells us where to stick it.
Your plan must also outline how town/the greater ‘Valley area’ is expected to keep the hundreds of jobs that TC Sports and the other numerous soccer and lacrosse events that support/create those jobs within our community, without bringing in at least one new economic driver.
This really IS quite simple. A ‘NO’ vote on this matter will mean the loss of hundreds of jobs AND over a half a million dollars in sales tax collections - you know, the thing that pays for all of the wonderful amenities that we are so privileged to enjoy in our lovely little community… that some in this community don’t want to share with anyone else.
The mentality here seems to be “Close the gate when you come over Rabbit Ears…"
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