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Dan, I did not mean to denigrate Israel at all. They have every right and responsibility to defend themselves from the attacks they are experiencing.
The point I am trying to make is that building a big fence between Israel and Gaza did not really accomplish much other than forcing the attackers to find different means to pursue their agenda. It also created a complete zone of poverty in the Gaza Strip that fuels the extremists and their recruiting efforts.
If we do manage to build such a fence on our southern border, it will only result in forcing the people trying to cross the border to use other means. As long as we continue to provide them with jobs and $$$$ they will continue to have the drive and desire to live in America. A fence will not stop the problems we are experiencing.
Kevin, they would clearly not be illegal if they only worked from the Mexican side :)
Yep. Those fences have completely stopped the rockets and tunnels.
A. I never made the comparison of Israel to Mexico. I just highlighted the ridiculous statement that a fence made them "safer"
B. Read my words closely, I never said that illegal immigration was a good thing. I highlighted some of the reasons and justifications that those immigrants are coming here.
C. It is American habits and policies that fuel our current set of problems. Like a Meth user that sees things in the dark. We are causing our own problems. If American corporations and individuals would quit paying laborers in Cash, there would not be an illegal immigration problem because there would be no money (ie no reason to be here).
Just like the underground market for drugs. No demand = No drugs.
Just why do you think all these people choose to uproot everything they have always known to take a chance on coming to America. Let me give you a hint, it is NOT the great burgers at McDonalds. They come here for Jobs, money and a chance at a better life. If we took away the jobs and the money, problem solved.
America can build all the fences and security in the world but as long as the driving force is $$$, the immigrants will keep on coming. Lets address the root causes instead of applying a temporary bandage.
Big difference between the size and length of fence around the White House, and a 3000 Mile long structure that runs thru mountains, deserts and rivers.
Tijuana - Yep, and they have uncovered how many tunnels, underground railroads (yes, actual railroads) and even catapults to defeat that marvelous fence.
Again, Big difference between policing the Berlin Wall in an urban environment and a 3000 mile long fence. Ask yourself just how effective a fence would be between just Wyoming and Colorado. As an avid snowmobiler, I am sure you have a pretty good idea how easy that would be to defeat.
Israel, yes they are very secure aren't they Great example of how fences keep the peace.
Aww, so sad. I do not get to play bad golf today. Blessings in disguise :)
Just like the fence around your garden that fails to keep out the rabbits and voles, A fence on a 3000 mile border will be porous and easily defeated. You could throw the entire military budget at the border over the next 5 years and not make a major difference. Just like the drugs, when there is a will there is a way.
Actually fixing the problem will require that we acknowledge that our nation demands the labor of these immigrants, and that those same immigrants are driven to find a way out of their current situation. None of these people come here because life is all peaches and cream where they currently live.
Again, we need a workable solution that recognizes both the needs of America and the needs of those individuals trying to become American. If there was nothing here for them, they would not be coming. You want to fix the illegal problem, then punish those corporations and employers that continue to hire illegal immigrants for low-wage cash jobs. If there were no possibility of jobs there would not be an illegal immigration problem. We are creating our own problem and blaming Mexico.
The current crop of youngsters would be treated as refugees anywhere else in the world. How did our country become so unwilling to help? You can play politics all you want, but if a cold hungry child shows up at my door I will help as much as I am able.
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
AGAIN, you will notice if you read closely, I called for a workable solution so that hard working people could come to America and work. Right now they are coming here and working under the table which is a problem. Ellis Island was an example of a workable process.
Our immigration system is broken and fatally flawed. It needs to be fixed, and sticking your head in the sand complaining about trespassers and illegal immigrants does not fix the problem now does it?
I am appalled that a country built by immigrants from all over the world has become so scared of the new generation of immigrants. In turn we came here because of religious persecution or the hope for new opportunities. Once they were here, we hated the Irish, we hated the Italians, we hated the germans, and we hated the french.
We would hate the darn Canadians too if we could figure out who they were. It's tougher when they look just like you and talk the same. Looked at from the lens of history, nothing has really changed and we will assimilate the new generation of immigrants just like we did the previous generations that came here to try and grab a piece of the American dream. Each and every one of you is here because your ancestor had the balls to risk everything and move to America.
Remember that the absolute best way to resolve our problems with debt and expenditure is to grow the economy and to be so scared of the new generation of immigrants just because they are brown is ridiculous. I agree that some level of control over the borders is necessary, but if we had a workable process for hard working people to come here and work we would all be better off.
Dan, I particularly disagree with the articles assertion that MJ use is a fairly recent behavior. It only takes a minimal amount of research to learn that MJ was used by the founding fathers, American Indians, Aztecs, Egyptians etc.
I will not argue that substance abuse is good for you. It is not.
However, I would argue that the "War on Drugs" has caused more problems in our society that the drugs themselves ever did. We should spend our money on treatment and education instead of crime and punishment. MJ is just the tip of the iceberg.
PS. I completely fail to understand how the various political pundits manage to blame almost anything on the various politicians they disagree with.
Is it not just possible that $&!t happens regardless of who might be in charge this year?
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