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Thanks George. That is a good read.
above link plus clicking on....
"Open Letter To The City Of Steamboat Springs"
It was the first letter that made me say WOW. Thanks Babette.
Get the river rangers (you don't need more than a couple to make a big impact). Mandate quality tubes, fines if you don't have them. Notify the stores selling low quality tubes. If they keep selling them without a "don't take this on the river" warning, they will have some very unhappy customers looking for refunds. Locals will buy the better tubes. Visitors will likely see the higher price of the one time use higher quality tubes and go to the commercial tubing operations. Reduce the fines if they participate in river cleanup days to add an educational component. If the reduction is significant, locals will do the cleanup and visitors will pay for the rangers.
During the Parks & Rec Commission meeting last night they said there is similar infrastructure to allow restrooms near the parking lot at the corner of 7th and Yampa. I would want to see that fully vetted, funded and finalized before not putting a restroom on this property.
I personally would have done a design with less grass, stretched a plaza from the promenade towards the river with hookups available for food carts and a restroom. Plaza would be similar to what they proposed in their plan as seen in the 9th street park (http://yampariverpromenade.com/promenade.php). Use the rented food cart spots as a way to pay for the maintenance of the park (they didn't want a BID down there so the money has to come from somewhere). The food carts would also generate new sales tax.
Still have controlled access to the creek area. And, maybe limited, controlled access to the Yampa. Uncontrolled access will cause similar user created issues like you can see along Yampa and every other river with a trail near it.
This is from the items being discussed tonight at the Parks and Rec Commission. There is definitely a need and the city did just install a pit toilet out at the west end of the core trail in bear river park. I am part of the public and hope to see a good explanation why the workman property is not a good location with the existing infrastructure already at that location.
"The Downtown Investment Plan calls for the construction of additional public restrooms in the vicinity of Workman Park. Given its limited size and unique riverfront setting, the public and the 2A Committee do not believe that this park is best suited for that amenity. Parks and Planning
staff has identified options for siting public restrooms in proximity to the public parking area at 7th and Yampa."
The pretty pictures....
The timing of this article is unfortunate. Much better detail is likely coming very soon. This has been a really long time in the making. Thanks for the hard work of all those involved with the easements and approvals. It looks like the County really stepped up here. There are some issues on the City side of things to get people to this trail that need some attention asap. This is definately not just a mountain biking trail. Measuring its use should not be hard.
This does not address Buff Pass, but USFS went through a planning process on Rabbit Ears Pass a little while back and they plan to improve winter (snowmobile) access pretty significantly on Rabbit Ears Pass. Likely more info somewhere lost in a government website! http://co.grand.co.us/668/Rabbit-Ears-Pass-Winter-Parking-Project
We typo'ed the email address in the first email Routt County Riders sent out.
All the info can be seen here (including ways to comment): http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c5/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gDfxMDT8MwRydLA1cj72BTUwMTAwgAykeaxRtBeY4WBv4eHmF-YT4GMHkidBvgAI6EdIeDXIvfdrAJuM3388jPTdUvyA2NMMgyUQQAyrgQmg!!/dl3/d3/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS9ZQnZ3LzZfS000MjZOMDcxT1RVODBJN0o2MTJQRDMwODQ!/?project=46247
That is my personal opinion too. Rabbit Ears will be the area that sees really high use if that area enters the planning process, and trails are approve/built. I hear there are more hurdles over there that will take time and it is not the top priority for USFS.
Just because the Buff Pass area is the top priority for the USFS, does not mean the 2A Trails committee will be paying for all or even some of the proposed trails in the above plan. I suspect some but not all trails that are approved up there will be funded by the 2A Trails Committee, but that likely will not be known until the trails are approved.
The Buff Pass trails had bike traffic into mid November last year. The USFS is also working on a trail capacity study before they permit businesses to drop off riders to ride downhill. Requests for permits like that have been sitting around for many years. This process has "inspired" USFS to tackle that project too. There are a number of businesses and similarly the Steamboat Springs Winter Sports Club that are waiting for these permits and would likely use Buff Pass trails and many other USFS trails if they were allowed.
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