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The Department of Homeland Security began under President Bush, after he failed to live up to his constitutional obligation.....fact. I would again bring the issue back to Commissioner Stahoviak and ask where are the "patriots"?
@ Jeff- By being ticketed it was determined CHP that Ron was responsible for the accident. Commissioner Monger has decided, based upon his previous post, to not hold him or his fellow Commissioner responsible. Instead, they have decided to let evey tax payer, whether visitor or resident, to pick up the tab. If you combine the tab for the accident pus Commissioner Stahoviak's and Monger's recent vote on the paving issue together, it's $125,000.00. I wonder how that money could have been better spent.
I again wonder why frequent posters, such as Fred Duckels, Rick Akin, and other tea party supporters have not commented on the issue. Doesn't responsible government begin at home? If they have in any way addrssed the issue, I would welcome their comments.
YVB- You should run. Those county meetings would fefinitely be much more exciting. I fully agree with your point on the auto insurance. It was never my intent to suggest the county seek any more than the actual cost associated with the medical care caused by the accident. Mr. Stahoviak was ticketed. That clearly places the repsonsibility for the accident on him. If another motorist had caused the accident. It would clearly be on them. The county should make no distinction between the two. It is obviously an unfortunate situation, but Commissioner Monger acting somehow like he has some sort of moral highground on the issue because they decided to let the taxpayers foot the bill instead of the responsible party is laughable. This has nothing to do with the state of health care in the US or any other issue. It simply comes down to who should pay the bill.
I think you should run. The pay is too low for what the Commisioners do, but I hear they have a great benefit package.
Mr. Wedel. My name is Selby not Shelby. I apologize for the mis-spelling of your name earlier. I was informed by the county attorney that the county never has and never will pursue compensation in cases like these. I am quite sure no policy or procedure exists for situations such as these. The county rushed into becoming self-insured after a year of high claims and facing the possibility of huge increases in insurance premiums, they chose this route. By making such a decision, they took on certain responsibilities. I emailed Commisioner Stahoviak about some of the pitfalls of being self-insured. She did not respond to my email. She instead forwarded it to the county human resources director. Perhaps if Commisioner Stahoviak had examined all of the aspects of becoming self-insured, this situation would not have occurred. However, it does seem to have worked out in her favor. Also, why is it necessary to pay another outside person to advise the county to simply do the right thing? The privacy law concern is a smoke screen. I am not bashing the HIPAA law itself. I am pointing out the fact that the Commissioner's medical treatment was well documented in the Pilot. Who footed the bill is the only privacy that seems to be being protected. It actually isn't that big of a mystery based upon Commissioner Monger's post. The tax payers did. In their budget last year the Commisisoners pointed out the fact that despite the increases in health care cost, no increase was passed along to employees. It would be nice if they could say no additional cost was passed along to the tax payers as well. In this case they are clearly not able to say that.
@Scott Wedell- They should have and do have a re-insurer and are also paying an outside firm to manage their self-insurance program. They could have made the decision. We pay a county attorney. Seeking restitution would have been an easy, although unpleasant task. The County simply chose not to do so and pass the expense onto tax payers. Based upon Commissioner Monger's post. It was a decision made by the Commissioners themselves.
housepoor- Frame it however you like, when valuations go up and the Mill Levy does not, yes, you are paying less taxes based upon your homes valuation. If the valuation drops and the Mill Levy goes up, you are paying more taxes on the value of your property. If you could sell your home for a million dollars last year, but five hundred thousand this year, but your taxes remain the same (the actual amount you pay) Your taxes, as a percentage of value have gone up.
Please see the quote from the county assessor:
I think the county has done a good job in "banking" their mills. It does allow for a more consistant county budget. I just believe the money should be spent wisely. Policy and procedure should be followed etc.
More specifically to this article, how do you feel about the County's actions related to Mr. Stahoviak?
Rhys- Sorry if my post was convoluted. Yes, an increase in the Mill Levy rate is an actual tax increase to the property owner. You are paying more taxes on a lesser valuation. The paving issue I mentioned was CR 18 which Commissioner Monger and Stahoviak voted to pave a portion of, despite the fact that the road did not meet their set policy regarding traffic count per day to be paved. They were made aware of this and voted contrary to the policy which they themselves put in place. The issue of restitution by Mr. Stahoviak not being sought speaks for itself. I am in no way heartless. As I have stated, I support our county employees and actually everyone having quality health care. This was not someone afflicted with a rare illness. This was a case of someone being ticketed for an accident, but not being held responsible for the damages caused by the accident. Instead that responsibility was passed along to the residents of Routt County.
They will not increase taxes. They will use their banked mills to increase the levy on property taxes.So even though your valuation is down, your taxes won't be. Commissioner Monger still has never stated what services will need to be cut in order to make up the difference. It has to come from somewhere, but evidently there must be extra money for paving barely travled county roads, despite the policy and procedures they put in place themselves. I still find it very telling that the usual conservative posters have barely commented on this issue. It seems like most of their energy is spent on national partisan issues, as oppossed to local issues related to responsible government.
Mtroach: That's my entire point. The County made an informed decision to choose to partially-self insure. Because that decision has been made, they must now step up and perform the duties of an insurance company. I would also point out that Commissioner Stahoviak is not simply an employee. In fact, Commisssioner Monger must consider her a "special" employee, as he drew the distinction between her and "regular" employees in his post. This would mean he sees himself as a "special" employee. If Commissioner Monger was involved in the actual decision making process as to whether to seek reimbursement from Mr. Stahoviak, then it would be interesting to see what county policy and procedure was followed. If there is none, then they were obviously "making it up as they go".
YVB: I know we have disagreed in the past (slightly) but this one is not about liberal, conservative, feeding the birds, bikes, mmj, or any other hot-button issue. It's about what is truly right and fair for the residents of the county. Everytime something like this occurs whatever your political affiliation may be, everyone should hold our elected officials accountable.
On a seperate note....I will be having the title "Mr. Wonderful" registered. Any further use of my registered title by Commissioner Monger shall be dealt with through the apprpriate legal means.
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