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The SI talks at the Pavilion are free and always informative. I'm not sure which one George went to but I've always found them to be attended by a pretty friendly and interested crowd.
So I’m not sure I’m following this. $60,000,000 worth of energy efficiency improvements were installed saving 6,360,000 kilowatt-hours of electricity? If my math is right that comes to a mere $9.43 per kilowatt-hour saved. At roughly $0.08 per kilowatt-hour (the current YVEA residential rate), that equates to a total savings of around $509,000. On what planet does it make sense to spend $60,000,000 to save $509,000? Renupiter?
Well not quite real. Does the Craig Station burn natural gas? The simple economics Sam refers to are anything but simple. Pipelines and gas infrastructures are not cheap either. The fact is in some situations coal does compete quite nicely with gas and that's why it's still in demand. If it was just about fuel supply costs, there'd be no further discussion at all about renewables, right? So there are obviously other factors involved. As for the basic laws of economics, take a look at LNG prices overseas. Do you suppose they're interested in $2.5/MMBtu product over there? Do you think folks producing $2.5 product would like to sell it overseas? (http://www.ferc.gov/market-oversight/mkt-gas/overview/ngas-ovr-lng-wld-pr-est.pdf) And do you think they'll sell it for $2.5? Would you? Le'ts say they decide to be nice and sell it for $5. What effect will that have on energy market prices here and on coal's ability to compete in the future? Why do you suppose they're building coal fired power plants in Germany? And in Japan? There's no denying coal is facing a tougher market but the increasingly restrictive regulatory environment being erected domestically and groups like WEG are in fact responsible for pushing coal miners and coal fired power producers to the brink in particular circumstances. If it weren't for the WildlyExaggerating Guardians, coal miners in our neck of the woods would be doing do just fine. As for beer, my taste runs to union brews.
As I read Judge Jackson's ruling, it seems Jeremy Nichols may have been less than forthright in his testimony and earned an admonishment from His Honor. Now we learn 454 business represented as supporting this organization perhaps don't? I'm beginning to think the WildEarth Guardians are prone to exaggeration.
Agreed. But the bad part is they’re not going to be given the opportunity to do that in whatever manner they may figure out is appropriate. The older crowd has already decided what the answers are and they’re working hard to remove other options from the younger crowd’s table. That would be great if the older crowd was willing to a) pay for it themselves and b) had settled on a solution that’s viable. Instead, they’re bitterly clinging to the failed pipe dreams of old tired renewable energy technologies as though we’re just a few more governmentally imposed market constraints away from lift off to energy nirvana. I call BS. I’m far more concerned about the threats younger crowds face from the growth of totalitarian government, from wealth redistribution efforts, from the forced imposition of the welfare state, and from the steady erosion of their freedoms and liberty than I am about global warming or a wet year. Those are the least of their problems in my opinion; both waaaaay down the list of things to get all wee-weed up about.
I didn’t raise my kids to fear or to feel guilty about the consequences of their own existence. (And I always wonder who would DO that to a kid?!? Who would rob them of their sense of security and well-being? Honestly, think about it!) I raised mine to think independently and to have confidence in their abilities to tackle and to solve the challenges they’ll inevitably face. Now it’s time to step back and allow them to do just that. And I believe they’ll handle it – my kids and yours - if we just give them the chance, trust them and let them use their own minds.
My generation’s track record on governance and the economy ain’t great – in fact recently it’s been abysmal - and that’s what we should be talking to our younger folks about before it’s too late. As you read this the national debt is necessarily skyrocketing somewhere north of $18 trillion and unfunded federal liabilities are approaching $100 TRILLION! (http://www.usdebtclock.org/) That’s a whole lot of drachma! The equivalent of more than $818,000 per taxpayer! We’re going to need to go FAR beyond the $15/hour minimum wage concept to catch up to those payments! But that’s just one example out of a whole bunch of things we’re considering doing right now that I don’t think our kids and grandkids and their progeny can afford – not that we’re asking. And the list definitely includes instigating a phony panic over futuristic doomsday scenarios produced by clearly wrong and getting wronger computer models predicting climageddon of one sort or the other.
Hey thanks for the suggestion GW. I’m all about the wisdom you can find in old continuously published reading materials containing articles of interest. My personal favorite is the Constitution. Have you read that one?
Anyway all in all I think I’d rather get socks and the Steyn book. Funny, when I was a kid I would have been sorely disappointed in socks. But the older I get, the more I appreciate a good read and a good pair of socks!
Oh goodie! And just in time for my birthday!: http://www.steynstore.com/product133.html
So video of the accused denying the accusations against him constitutes thorough debunking in your book? I'll prefer to see what the court says. "http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/10/the-drawn-out-mann-lawsuit-science-is-not-taking-a-stand-for-michael-mann/" And what of the phenomena that when you put white noise into Mann's statistical analysis, poof, out pops a hockey stick! That's what I call thorough debunking. Does that not raise any questions at all for you regarding the interplay between CO2 and temperature?
Let's contact our elected representatives and urge them to support unelected bureaucrats indulging in politically motivated and extra-constitutional rulemaking efforts? Um, no thanks. How about instead we contact them and insist they do their jobs? It's simple. If they want CO2 regulated they can pass legislation to regulate it. Let's have the debate in Congress with you know, real science and data and stuff including the now nearly 19 years and counting with no temperature increases; some wet, some dry, all normal.
Ken who? Check.
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