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Like you,I have broken trail many times. And no,I don't mind sharing the forest with all users. I do think a little consideration is helpful,and perhaps that would start with a little education. I think that's all that Russ was trying to do,and I thought your mocking him was a bit mean-spirited. (Mark has a way of firing people up;he sure brings out the worst in me.) I hope you have a fine day yourself.
Oh,don't hurry back, Mark. Silly of me to make assumptions I guess. A pity that you can't ride your sled in the wilderness. Russ made a reasonable request and you sneered at him,indicating that you still don't understand the issue. I think you've made a few assumptions too.
For a guy who obviously does a ton of hiking (please),you still don't know much about trails or backcountry skiing. Perhaps you could mention where you pulled off this impressive feat of hiking? Did you use snowshoes or posthole your way up? You're always right,and you sure are impressed with yourself;we're the ones who are laughing.
Built any trails lately,Mark? Or just gone out of your way to ruin someone else's? Couldn't resist a chance to talk about the poor snowmobilers? I doubt you've walked anywhere in the backcountry in your whole life. Just like you to talk about something that you know nothing about;sure doesn't stop you from having a loud and angry opinion about it. When it comes to being "inconsiderate" you know all about that,don't you? What the heck,backcountry skiers are just a bunch of liberals anyway,so they must be wrong. Really,your ignorance is astounding. Don't you ever know when to shut up?
Go build your own trail,Joey.
Remember the "labradorian" from Up In Smoke? Guess this isn't a new problem.
Okay,Mark I stand corrected on he facilities up on Rabbit Ears pass. I appreciate your filling me in on what actually goes on there. I will contend that your comparison of facilities at the Steamboat ski area and the lack of facilities for snowmobilers elsewhere in the county is really not a valid comparison. The ski corp. is a large business,and pays hefty fees to the USFS for the privilege of running a business on Mt. Werner. It provides many jobs both directly and indirectly around the county and in Moffitt County as well. You may argue that it is not a good thing for the forest service to provide public land for a privately-run business,but that was decided many years ago,and it not likely to change. I don't think that comparing the facilities of a ski resort and the ski resort skiers to snowmobile activities makes any sense. Better to compare facilities that might be made available to backcountry skiers,who share much of the same terrain as snowmobilers. I don't know of many lodges built for the use of backcountry skiers around the county,unless you count the Blue Sky snowcat operation on Buffalo Pass,which charges a considerable amount for the services it provides for its guests. The issue of parking made available on either Rabbit Ears or Buffalo Passes has always been complicated and apparently emotional,and I don't have any answers there,but if viewed in strictly economic terms,it's easy to see why facilities like the new Four Points lodge are approved.
There is a large shed or garage structure on Rabbit Ears Pass that is used to store a snowcat and other equipment used by a commercial snowmobile tour operator to groom trails. I think that this is fine: I certainly have no objection to it. Is this building on public land? I don't know for sure,but I believe that it is. I expect that the tour operator has a permit from the forest service for this business,just like the ski corp. has for its business. I never asked the ski corp.to build us a new lodge at Four Points,and it doesn't matter what my opinion is on the matter;it's there now. Yes,I will certainly use it. Your argument is weak,Mark.
I like it, Harvey! I have many fond memories of sleeping just about anywhere I could find a spot,just so I could ski. It may have actually been easier to do back in my early ski bum days,due to a more tolerant attitude by ski town residents and their law enforcement officials. I think skiers/riders should be encouraged,not discouraged,and the cost of skiing is enough so that many of them need a little help. Kudos to you,Harvey for showing a little of the spirit that has always made this town a great place to live in.
it's only natural that you would bring snowmobiles into the discussion,Mark.
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