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If you don't like folks here calling you "hon" and such, then please don't be so condescending to me about Oak Creek landlord/tenant issues you haven't begun to live through first-hand as I have most years since 1993. Scott could be quiet as a bug, still wouldn't change what he's done with that property, sorry if that's not what you want to hear but there's no getting around that reality for anyone knows what I do.
It's the several people who know even more than I do, that Scott should be giving a sigh of relief, aren't commenting here. I don't think it matters if Dick was more or less outspoken than Scott, when it comes to the Town of Oak Creek taking exception to a housing issue or not. Dick had his foibles, sure, but the one thing we never argued about was any of the little things required to keep his places up to code. Which are like pulling teeth with Scott, because he's so biased against the gummint telling him it's not OK to suffocate his tenants, and such.
Dick may have been less outspoken, but ask anyone ever worked for the Town of Oak Creek, they all thought he was almost as much of a PITA as Scott. But, Dick was decent to me, so I was more than willing to run interference, because he honestly wanted to do right by his tenants.
Before he passed away, Dick let Scott know his displeasure with what was going on at his former property. Some of my other neighbors and I even spoke about it at town board. In the quarter-century I knew him, this was the one thing Dick ever brought to town board, but only through me. Wish he was still around to back me on this issue, because he absolutely would have. Dick sold that building to Scott in good enough condition to last 20 years, so why'd it only make six?
Why I gave a thumbs-up to George's comment in a language I can't tell you what is, and am happy to do so, is it still makes more sense than this or any other thread dominated by our delusional right-wingers who so dominate the conversation.
Kinda hope that's what you meant, George, because this thread is full of absurd ridiculousisms we wouldn't even be TALKING about if the russkies hadn't hacked election 2016 for Trump.
Sorry for posting my thoughts in the wrong thread before I knew this one existed:
Uh, my current landlady called me the other week because she wanted me to check the plug-in CO detector in my place heading into a winter with a woodstove backed up by propane.
And make sure I'd flipped the switch back on for the heat-tape on the water well pipes. Yes! :) Plus a brand-new stovepipe, last winter was a doozy on the old one, so I couldn't be happier, in my last Routt County winter as a tenant.
I've been through three. Most recently was the house fire in Aug '11, me & Dick hollering at each other about me moving out vs. him replacing the wiring, well, yeah, we tangled. Cooler heads prevailed on both our parts, and the solution was lots of wire-mould and surface-mount, I continued to live there to help move furniture to facilitate, in exchange for 6 months of free rent from Dick's insurer.
It took from August to December to get the fire-holes plugged & the wiring sorted. The reality is four years later when I moved out, I was still cleaning ash & fire-extinguisher goop from every nook & cranny in that old house and all my stuff in it. But I don't think for a second that the Town of Oak Creek has a vested interest in declaring any rental uninhabitable due to some vendetta or why wouldn't they have done that to Dick.
Plus, extension cords running across property lines (and I haven't even spoken with the affected neighbor who's my bff, but probably should offer to park my motorhome there over-winter so he can plug into the 6KW Onan at least so we can jam) for years on end isn't a "mistake" it's deliberate flouting of some of the most sensible building codes imaginable for any community to impose.
Sorry. This would still be my backyard even if I wasn't there several times a month eating at the Gastropub. I barely know two people in Tamarack Point anymore despite renting there from Mike Roberts for six years (he really wanted me to rent the illegal caretaker in his place across the road, at first, been in the news lately). Plus Cullen Corner downstream from Mad Creek, nope, buncha strangers thereabouts now (miss the Mays and their border collies). Like I said about the oil & gas leases to the West of OC/Pburg, spending time in my old hood in Oak Creek improves my quality of life.
Two winters running, long-term tenants in my old hood are left fending for themselves in tight mid-ski-season rental markets. I believe the term for this is "gentrification" and something tells me that if & when the old hospital comes back on-line in the rental market, it won't be Section 8 housing (even if the tenant doesn't need it). Running those tenants off is the only way letting the building go all decrepit makes financial sense, to me, get that dang gummint off yer back and all to make more money off new-to-town mj-industry workers than the guerrilla growers ever paid.
Sorry Debbie, but Dick knew for years how prone Shorty Hamady's old home was to burning down, before it almost did, with me in it. Even still, it was up to the "old" codes. Grandfathered in literally since electricity came to Oak Creek.
When a 5W night-light in the bathroom of one corner of the home causes a house fire in the opposite corner of said home, and both are additions in the first place (used to have an outdoor privy), almost burns down the house next door owned by the guy you just bought the old hospital from...
...perhaps it's time to think about how your new place was wired up bitd before allowing thousands of watts of interior lighting for dope-growing, etc. with no sprinkler system required in an ancient, remodeled 4-plex, we are talking Oak Creek. When I lived in that building in '93-'94, I was responsible for re-lighting the furnaces when the power went out, but those were brand-spanking-new then so despite Dick cheaped out on the thermocouples, how in the world did they send anyone to the hospital earlier this month?
There's mistakes, and there's shoulda known better. Scott's displaced tenants won't be provided for until they're out of motels, and even when Hamady's old place almost burned down the other year because Dick hadn't taken advantage of the "code upgrade" clause in his landlord insurance which paid for it (not the fire insurance, peeps), Chuck let me go back to bed in my own home a few hours later, with my pets. Because Dick did manage to keep his rental properties up to code, even if barely, may he RIP.
Wait a minute. The developer agreed to the conditions the community imposed, but because it's a private investment, it's not a concern of the community that the developer breached that agreement?
I see what you're saying... it's none of my business that my friends & former neighbors are homeless now because a certain historic building (registered or not) in Oak Creek was declared uninhabitable the other day. Absolutely, your neighbors should mind their own business and just overlook the effect your blight has on their property values, and the rest of the community should just overlook their neighbors losing their housing in mid-December.
Which I'm sure you'll blame on the town government like you always do, couldn't possibly be due to any poor decision-making on your part.
I was initially impressed that you invested in new windows for the old hospital, but it really is remarkable how you acquire perfectly-serviceable buildings and render them useless in so short a time. Quite an accomplishment to make Dick Curtis roll over in his grave concerning neglect & deferred maintenance of tenement buildings in Oak Creek.
But really not a surprise, after failure to winterize led to flooding & freezing (heh, just like the car wash), and tenants were allowed to turn windows into doors, re-wire, and re-plumb the place to support guerrilla dope growing, with none of that work done under the auspices of the building permit / inspection system, turning it into a dangerous eyesore with extension cords running all over the place instead of romex wire & circuit breakers.
Maybe instead of being right all the time to the point where you're comfortable posting here on a daily basis about what others should be doing/not doing with their properties, you should instead spend that time getting your own properties in order. Exhibit A for the notion that you're not an expert on everything, would be the situation at the old hospital in Oak Creek. Because if being a landlord is your business, I'd suggest you're not very good at it.
You're doing the right thing by putting your constructive-eviction tenants up in motels, but damn man, these people are my friends and you've rendered them homeless in mid-winter by your actions. I can't NOT comment on that, especially when anyone coulda seen the town's actions coming. Your properties don't exist in a vacuum, your actions have a tangible (negative) effect on the community, so seriously, don't suggest that it's nobody else's business what you do with your property and we should all mind our own business.
So long as what I'm doing on my property has no negative impact on anyone else, yeah please leave me the hell alone. But if I buy a historic barn or old hospital for the purpose of profiting by it, and that profit comes at the expense of my neighbors when my property's neglected, then yeah the community should call me out for my actions. Seems only fair.
"(after all, the cops don't like people using the all night gym)"
The only private citizen (well, property owner) whose responsibility this is, would be Stan Kroenke, who can certainly afford it. Plus, he (or his business, whatevs) signed a contract agreeing to preserve it... If anything, local tax dollars should go to suing his pants off for reneging on a contract he can EASILY afford to make good on!
You have no soul.
"...create an iconic entryway..."
That barn's BEEN the "iconic entryway" to the ski area ever since I was born. Growing up in Ft. Collins, my parents had a condo at The West, and I had the iconic poster in my bedroom of cowboys with skis across their saddles, riding through the snow by the barn, with the ski area in the background.
I support preserving it, but not moving it! Silly notion.
Because letting it collapse, would not only be a shame, but make Steamboat look like a bunch of freaking idiots for allowing that to happen, after decades of marketing our "local western heritage" by featuring it.
Nothing could say more about we don't actually give a flying crap about anything but your tourist dollars, foolish idiots, than letting it collapse. In politics, we'd call that "poor optics."
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