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"Maybe you meant to say 'you can still be a victim of crazy people.'"
I'm sorry, but what's wrong with saying "you can still be the victim of a gun?" Because there was that 3-yr-old who accidentally killed himself with one of his LEO parents' service weapons out in Stagecoach the other day. What was that boy a victim of, otherwise? Violence? No. Crazy people? No. Mental illness? No. Ignorance of gun safety? YES!!! But good grief, 3-yr-olds shouldn't have access to loaded guns because guns are inherently dangerous killing weapons.
I take this to mean that having less guns around, would lead to fewer tragedies, especially where children are concerned. Especially when LEO parents can't keep their children from being killed by their own gun, but you say it's inherently got nothing to do with guns, per se? And keep insisting that more guns will lead to fewer gun deaths? How's that?
"What's common sense (again) and easily observable is that mass shootings don't happen at public gun ranges, they happen in gun free zones."
More of a mass accident, than a mass shooting, but it seems to me that places where people carry and shoot weapons are inherently unsafe.
"Because of his diagnosis and hospitalization, that individual would not have qualified to legally purchase a gun. Mental patients shouldn't have access to firearms."
Unless they're laid out for him at a shooting range, like in this case? Two veterans shot dead by someone who couldn't pass a background check... but of course didn't need one to just "borrow" guns from a shooting range.
Seems a rather obvious loophole.
So you're going to go ahead and assume, with everyone else, that all the Orlando victims were killed by the gunman? Doesn't surprise me. I, OTOH, prefer to wait for the autopsy results and then we'll see how many victims were killed by security guards exchanging fire with the gunman.
Just amazes me, how folks like you just don't think it's possible for the "good guy" with the gun to ever take out a bystander in such a confused situation, and don't even need to wait for the scientific investigation to be completed.
Too bad Lombardi's is no more. Combined with the professionalism of the FD keeping my home from burning down 5 years ago, Oak Creek was a very nice place to have lived for a while, in retrospect. Still is, but maybe post-peak. All eggs going into the same basket, and all.
Local LEO had the biggest negative impact on my life, from before he was even a cop, was Dave Miller. His partner had to loosen my cuffs, giving Miller an icy glare 'cuz my fingers were turning purple, I wasn't just whining. But then Kelby got that retired K9, kind of a tie w/ a certain Taser for worst local-LEO tool ever deployed.
Love me a trained dog. But K9s get retired for a reason. It's prosecutors and courts who fail to understand that the dog is "alerting" for its new owner, out on patrol, because that's what the dog thinks is expected of it in those situations, and like all dogs, aims to please. Just because sometimes there is a satchel, doesn't really excuse all the dwelling-tossings resulting from bogus police work.
But, I'll tell ya one thing that offsets that, beyond some others I could name, was Officer Bobby. I was in Oak Creek today, the cops are out walking the beat still, because that's a standard Bobby set for OCPD. What's been absent in OC for years now, is any systematic sort of crap from the PD like there was when Miller threw me in jail for not stealing Cargo's car. None that I've heard of, anyway.
My best war story from living here concerns Trooper He-who-shall-not-be-named, because everyone in South Routt knows there's only one I could possibly be talking about. Doesn't even involve me, although I wasn't without my own run-ins. But I did have a roomie once upon a time...
Engineer-in-training for the railroad, working his way up from conductor. From Tennessee, hunter, Grand Canyon rafting guide, came home in tears the first time he had to plow through a herd of elk in a Yampa Valley winter. He was training with an about-to-retire engineer who'd lived here all his life, full of Moffatt Tunnel stories.
One night, they're heading North to P-burg when they see emergency lights on a crossing ahead, and dump the e-brake because cops are only supposed to do that if they need a train to stop -- otherwise they need to move a pull-over well out of the RR right-of-way, apparently. Well, this was a traffic stop, so my roomie and the Engineer hop out and confront the Trooper.
By which I mean confront! Engineer throws Trooper onto the hood of his prowler and proceeds to tear him a new one for stopping "his" train! Orders pulled-over driver to pull ahead a 1/4 mile on the County Road and get off of RR property, then orders the Trooper to follow him and get the "heck" out of the way of his train! Writes down name & badge number to file a complaint.
Tells my roomie, "Don't take no guff from some cop." They drive on to P-burg.
"I can tell you the government ain't looking to defend or protect you, but to expand its power domestically and internationally."
A far cry from government's purpose being to protect our freedom, not our safety. Defending citizens from terrorists shouldn't even be an expectation of Americans. That isn't the oath.
I think if the 21st Century has taught us anything, it's that the Anti-Federalists were right about the dangers of standing armies. They were also right, to a certain extent, about militias -- witness whatever winter shortly after the 2003 Iraq War killed so many cattle on the Eastern Plains of CO, which normally would've had hay airlifted to them by the National Guard. Even if the personnel had been there, the equipment wasn't. Also absent for a few winters were recoilless rifles used in avalanche control.
(Don't get me started about wings falling off C-130 firefighting tankers the CIA used to use for drug running, or General Singlaub's compound up Poudre Canyon.)
Not only should the National Guard never have been mobilized for foreign wars, but the Posse Comitatus Act should never have been secretly rescinded (there's a suggestive unredacted footnote) to compensate. The 2nd Amendment is why I think the CO National Guard should stay here and be plenty busy -- for exactly the same reasons the Georgia militia didn't want to be marched to New Hampshire, except for the slave uprisings.
So I only digress a little.
I'm just sittin' here tryin' to count police chiefs in Oak Creek stretchin' back to Reggie. On average, one every two years? Compared to two per year in Oakland? At least that's my perspective on things these days. OCPD's as good as it's ever been, right now, so I see and hear. Keep up the good work, guys! Thanks for the friendly VIN inspections (Sheriff's Dept. too on that, recent housetruck purchase), etc.
On that note, thanks to State Patrol around here (well, post-Trooper-who-shall-not-be-named) as well! I recently had some not-so-pleasant things to say about a spokesperson over in the Vail Valley, what I forgot to say is that Sgt. Elliott does one heckuva job hereabouts in that capacity, and many others. New Unimog needs certified VIN inspection, but I swear I'm not greasin' the skids or anything! :)
SSPD -- jury's still out, all I'm sayin'.
It's really sad that Scott has to be the one to surface this. Council members should be aware of their legal responsibilities, and the City Attorney should be the one to remind them if need be. Not private citizens.
Except it really isn't. At least, I don't find it funny that a young local female service-industry worker would for one second, when considering reporting herself or another gal being victimized this way, think, "I'd call the cops, but why bother?"
It's also not funny to say, "Well, at least Steamboat isn't as bad as Oakland." Or at least, it isn't funny to me that the two can actually be mentioned in the same post as having any similarities. Same attitude, smaller department, taking a wait-and-see attitude instead of assuming new regimes are automatically the solution.
Especially given the events in Oakland three years ago -- in the space of three months, they went through three Police Chiefs. I sh** you not.
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