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Are we going to get that technical? OK, $70 for the trip instead of $60. Still does not make it sensible to fly 140 miles for $471 dollars.
I have to agree with you Mr. Wedel.
Personal trip in January, three people went but I will break it down for one person:
Fuel: one tank for up and back, $60
Food and snacks, $25
Round trip airfare to PDX(Portland Oregon), $160 per person on Frontier.
Parking in the very efficient Pikes Peak lot, $8 a day for 6 days=$48.
Just looked up the cost for a flight from HDN to DIA for an upcoming trip this March, round trip=$471, just for the flight, add in the 6 days parking and you are well over $500. My method blows that clean out of the water.
Am very interested in a sensible explanation, which I don't think there is one, other than pure greed of course.
Four hours my time, free. Tank of gas, $60, parking at $8 per day in the Pikes Peak lot X's 6 days (the average of my trips so far), $48=$108. Driving 20 minutes instead of 4 hours would be well worth it and I would be one local that would never drive to DIA again.
$48 is more like it, I would do it for a hundred extra, but not almost $400. I am only talking Hayden to Denver here, I don't expect them to fly direct to my destinations. My point is that in January I flew 3 people to Portland from Denver for five hundred bucks. To fly from Hayden to Denver would have been about three hundred extra, per person. This is why people drive to DIA, I am betting they could keep all of them here if it were reasonable.
OK, great, another flight coming IN from somewhere else. How about flights out? They still cost you your first born, half your bank account and part of your left arm.
I can fly from Denver to LA or Portland (where family is) for half the cost it takes to get from Hayden to Denver, but the drive bites. Wouldn't you think they would be trying to keep locals from driving elsewhere to fly? I would love to fly out of Hayden, it would only take me 20 minutes to get home instead of 4 hours. I simply cannot afford it and am left wondering why it costs so darned much. I am sure there are reasons, but they won't be good enough, a simple 45 minute flight should not cost $425, period, no excuses.
I am not a resident so I will not weigh in on the location of the police station issue. I do work at YVMC on occasion, my point is that this is an already congested intersection with the occasional ambulance going up and down the hill. Add in police cars to the mess and there may be an increase in a response time, we all know what that brings. That coupled with working your way thru downtown to get to an emergency on the west end and response times will be agonizingMaybe if they also widened the road to two lanes going each way it might help, people would have room to move to the side when approached by an emergency vehicle. Just a thought.
Thank you both for the explanations, I am happy to donate to a worthy cause and the SSWSC is a good one. I guess the reason I was confused is because in all the times I have attended the events, I never had a button, and, never knew I had to have one as no one stopped me to tell me I needed one. I have seen others wearing them, but never once had been approached to buying one as I did that night.
No worries, I will return and will support the club, it's worth it.
I share the opinion that the winter carnival is a world class event, and, I bring family and friends each year to it. However this year I ran into something strange and wanted to voice my feeling about it.
As we attempted to enter the night ceremony at Howelson, we were stopped by someone selling "buttons" and were told we had to have one before we could enter. As I looked around I saw many entering without one and when I questioned this I was told by this individual that we each had to have one or we could not enter, he was physically blocking us from entering unless we paid. I will admit this is the first time I have gone to the hill for the ceremony, normally I enjoy it from a different vantage point but decided it would be cool to be up close and personal, especially with the Big Bang at the end. I am not sure if this practice of demanding entry fee to this event is proper, and if it is, my bad...but it gets more deceptive from here. Anyway, I asked how much they were and he told me that they were $10 each, having a group of four I was not going to pay $40 for something I could see from the parking lot for free. Frustrated we began to retreat to a different location to watch the show, but were bummed we could not get up close. After a moment of reflection, I decided to approach a different button saleswoman to validate the demand I was receiving further up the path. This very nice lady and her daughter happily told me they were just taking a donation and that there were no "button police" checking everyone. Amazed at this new development I related my earlier story to her and she again reiterated that it was a donation, however much I decided to give would get me the coveted button. At the urging of the children to be up close, I made a modest donation, which she happily thanked me for and gave us our four apparently required buttons with no further hassle. Testing this button-for-entry requirement I pocketed mine and found I could move freely about without hassle of not having a button, I made it a point to walk directly in front of the man who demanded I have one earlier, he looked right at me and said nothing about my missing yet concealed button.
I guess what I am getting at is that many people are happy to donate, and eventually I happily did. However I cannot help to feel that this individual, thinking I was a tourist, was scamming me for money, which given the event and the cause, was more than wrong if it is the case. It makes me wonder how many others he took advantage of and how much of the money he collected actually made it to the charity it was to go to. Again, I have no problem donating money for a good cause, however don't lie to me or scam me to get it, I'm not that dumb.
At any rate, the show was truly grand and I enjoyed it with my button tucked tightly in my pocket, and,
I won't let this influence me from future attendance, I would never miss this show.
How much you want to bet they won't see that guy again.
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