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This is the very reason we drove to DIA recently to fly to LA. I saved $600 for three people by flying out of DIA rather than YVRA. My airfare from DIA to LAX was only $185 per person, $200 per person to get from here to DIA, not much sense in that. I would love to fly out of Hayden so I only had a 20 mile drive to get home, I am not however going to pay the exorbitant rate to do so. Grand Junction is also much, much cheaper than YVRA and closer than DIA, however the overall round trip airfare was much less at DIA, just like he article states. I suspect we will always be driving to DIA or Junction to fly, YVRA will never have low enough prices to entice anyone local...I hope I am wrong, but I am guessing not.
Wow. Cops sure do take a lot of dumb calls....8:43, 9:22 and 3:13 are a little out there.
I agree Bryan. My condolences to the family.
Not understanding your inquiry. This record is from June, the accident was last Thursday. What's your point?
Wow, my record from C-470 to Craig is 2;30, and I thought I was moving. You and i could drive together, without nails in the dash:)
Really? Who is this billionaire? And where? Only curious is all.
This is about as interesting as the guy here in Craig who could not reach his wife, lied to his co-workers and left work, went home to get a butcher knife. He then confronted his wife and her lover, proceeded to stab him repeatedly until he was dead while telling him that " I told you to stay away from my wife", then after the victim is down, kicks him in the head and puts the knife to the throat of his wife. He had confessed that he wanted his wife's lover dead and told the guy he killed repeatedly on Facebook that he would kill him.
This guy gets second degree murder and menacing with a deadly weapon.
Am I wrong or is this premeditated murder plain and simple? This guy in Steamboat shoots down a stairway potentially harming or killing someone and gets off relatively scott free.
Is it me and my lack of knowledge of law or is there something underhanded going on in this district? Two rather confusing outcomes to two pretty solid cases that I certainly would have been locked up and forgotten about. Who are these people?
Wow Mr. Jones, my story pales in comparison. It was well below zero that night and was around one in the AM, nobody on the road so I started walking the 4-5 miles towards the ColoWyo guard shack. A generous City Market truck driver picked me up and took me the rest of the way. As far as the single file, I know you are correct, however these guys literally appeared out of nowhere and as my car moved forward, they contacted the places they did taking me sideways with them across the road and into the ditch. I hit about 4-5 lucky animals into the herd, they were not walking and they just kept right on coming.
As far as too fast for conditions, I am guessing that some think 20 miles per hour below the limit is still too fast, sorry, not in my book. I have been driving for 38 years, since I was 10, and have taken driving courses including the winter driving course. Not that makes me some sort of expert, but I feel confident on the road and posses skills far better than your average driver today, never an accident and many avoided due to my attention and focus while driving. This was one of those situations where skill would not have even remotely mattered, one second clear road, next second plowing through a herd of elk up from the ditch. Also, if they want you to drive slower at night, they should post that. The sign says 65, nothing else, and, that is what I will travel. If an animal is dumb enough to step in my way, well, they pay the price, I have great insurance with literally no deductibles. There are multi speed signs now posted along 13 for day and night driving, but they were not there at the time of my accident.
At any rate, like I said before, anything to make the situation better is welcome, however the cost seems really high.
The core trail is a different monster altogether and I know why most people avoid it even though it is relatively convenient. I have almost come to fists between the tubers and the kayakers standing on the trail completely blocking it. Even being nice normally does not illicit a courteous response, I have heard some words I never have before though.
I ran through a herd of about 15 elk that came out of nowhere just south of the ColoWyo gate on 13 while returning home late one cold, snowy December night. Roads were snowpacked and I was only doing 45-50, but I brought a 900 pounder up onto the hood of the Chevy Cavalier I was driving and nearly through the windshield, which held (thank you Yampa Auto Body). Three hit the front drivers side of the car and two in the rear (evident by the large, body shaped dents) so hard it put me sideways thirty feet off the road into a snowy covered ditch. Trooper told me I was lucky the head of the elk that came up on the hood went to the side of the drivers doorpost, otherwise I would have been shish-ka-bobbed by the full rack on him. Came out lucky on that one, however the elk with three of four broken legs did not, trooper had to put him down.
Anyway, I think things like this are a step in the right direction in the least and I would like to see some of this happen on south 13 and west 40, the carnage on those two roads is unreal sometimes. However as one above said, deer and elk will cross wherever they want to, you cannot force them to cross at certain points unless you line the road with 12 foot fencing along its entire length, which I don't ever see happening.
As far as deer whistles, they do work but have limitations as Mr. Jones stated. I own a big Dodge Ram truck that seems to be a natural deer whistle itself. Deer on the side if the road will perk up and turn tail as I approach them, have seen this over and over for the 18 years I have had my pickup and never once have I even come remotely close to hitting one, even standing on the road they run wildly away as I come down the road. I guess that may be why they named them "Dodge".
I was thinking the exact same thing, how is this not 1st degree? Probably tied to some sort of emotional stress that caused him to do it, nonetheless, it's premeditated murder, says so right in this article:
"He lied to get out of work, went home, grabbed a 7-inch butcher knife and looked for her at Mathers’ Bar. When he didn’t find her there, he waited in the parking lot until he saw his wife exit the Elk Head Apartments with Arredondo.
It was then that he crossed the parking lot and began stabbing Arredondo. Forensic testimony suggested that the first wound proved to be fatal with the blade of the knife driven upward through the ribcage into the heart and lungs."
If that is not premeditated murder, I will never know what is.
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