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I am so pleased that the TRUTH about Coal is out. Long over due. ENERGY has always been the tax base in this county. No commissioner, I hope you back off of the Oil Companies. Good Job!!!
This is such a sad thing. What we all need to address is Mental Health in this nation. Help for families and for people who have this in their lifes. Ronald Reagan did bad thing by closing down the few places there were to help. The numbers were never very clear, but 250,000 to 500,000 people were turned out on the streets. Crime went up, violence when up and drug abuse went up.
Every mass murder that has taken place has had a broken mind and heart behind it. Its not the gun, its the mind attached to the trigger. There are 84 milliion gun owners in this nation, and an average of 10,000 deaths by unlawful guns. Yet, there are 30,000 people who die from prescribition drugs. Almost every one of the mass killings prescribed drugs were being taken. One might want to ask why? Why are we not demanding more for those who need help? Why are we not demanding answers from the Drug companies, and the bedfellow called the FDA??
Just my thoughts.
Donna is a wonderful treasure. She is loved and honered here in Hayden.
God has NO religion, only people do. Ghandi said it best. "I admire your Christ, but your Christians are so unlike him."
The USA is the largest arms dealer in the world, and yet want to control firearms here? Due to the actions of this nation, other places in the world see the death of children everyday, due to bombs, guns, and backing oppressive government like Isreal. Hell, we trained Osma Bin Laudin, and have hand picked dictators all over the world. What happened here this past week is a daily event for far too many. It would also be nice if there was a REAL conversation about the Black Budget of this nation, and not looking at cutting Social Security for those who can least afford a loss, our old, our sick and our poor.
As far as our Constitution. I have not seen this paper, or much media at all even address the NDAA. How many people know that we no longer are covered under the first amendment? How many know that it was signed over a year ago? How many know that over 90 senators on both sides of the isle voted in favor or it? Only seven had the backbone to stand up and say NO to it. How many know that if it had not been signed (due to the GOP) our service men and women would not have been paid for many months? So our First Amendment is gone, and now an effort to go after the Second Amendment.
Shouldn't we be talking about mental health issues? The fact that there is little to no help outside of a pill that often makes things worse. Maybe we should be talking about the 450,000 young men and women with PTSD that are being given these drugs. Take a look at the numbers of Vets killing themselves, others, and family. We have good old Ronald Reagan to thank for that mess. He closed all State/Federal facilities and turned a large number of people out on the street. The empact was around 250,000 to 500,000 this is guess work, because homeless people dont have and address, they are not seen or counted. When that happened, not only did homelessness go up, but so did crime, violent crime, and drug abuse.
Just a question here. Steamboat gets a chunk of change from ENERGY, oil, gas, and coal. Why isn't there a break out for that??? I would also like to see what percentage of the Counties income froms from Energy. I see nothing on any type of breakout, why is that???
Oh, and for some of you who may not know this. Facking has been done for municipal waters all over this nation. It just goes to show that some people would prefer to embrace what they THINK they know to be true.
Love that song to Mark. I was raised people are only as strong as we stand for each other. United we stand, divided we fall. Or, what this nations "de facto" once was. E. Plurbis Unm (out of many one.) What is overlooked is simple. We are paying for 10 years of WAR DEBIT, and the first time in history that there WAS NOT an increase in taxes to pay for it. We are paying for deregulation on the banks, and morgage companies bottom line is we are paying for GREED. I am offended by the idea that Social Security is an "entitlement" BS!! We all paided into it and for it, take a look as to who as double dipped it. Compassion for our fellow man cost's nothing in most peoples world, but may mean the world to someone else. Greed on the other hand effects everything and everyone. Take a look around and tell me thats not true.
My concern is one of history. I lived in Rio Blanco County, and saw the effects to the community when the bar kept getting raised for oil, and gas. It ended up no jobs, loosing homes, and ways of life. County Commissioners of Rio Blanco were NOT listening to the people, or working in a fair way with oil and gas. The Commissioner were concerned about "their" ranching, yet none of them from the Pienance Creek area. Ranchers in Pienance Creek appreciated Oil and Gas.
Rio Blanco added a Use Tax, and an Impact fee, and kept holding their hand out to oil and gas. Soon there was no work, no jobs, no money for the community, schools.The greed with the business community was shocking and wrong and was promoted by the actions of the county. Three different national networks reported the greed. This attitude shut down production. Then it dawned on the county that 78% of the tax base in Rio Blanco Country for the past 50 years was Oil and Gas. Much like the rest of North Western Colorado. Ranching was less that 1%. At one time Rio Blanco was the richest county in the State of Colorado, and one of the top five in the United States.
In the 80s, I felt the effects of shutting down Oil Shale. I had a construction company and was making a good living, until it was shut down over night. I was forced into bankruptcy, I lost everything like so many did. The day I when to bankruptcy court there were over 200 people there. We all felts broken, used,lied to, and forgotten. That made a profound effect on my perspective, and my actions to work for JOBS, and for people. We all work from personal space, and this is mine.
I dont see supporting Oil and Gas as extremist, but I do see over the top efforts that do not take into consideration of peoples personal rights, and private rights to pursue a life they see fit. I see extremist when it comes to the use of personal land, and water, and the need to defend ideas, and not embrace the science.
Routt is doing a good job, and I hope it gets better. Water testing in my eyes is being made more than what it needs to be. Having been in development for 30 years,. The logical thing to do, would be to have a outside company to test all water wells in the area. I say outside because there should be no agenda. Split the price with County and Oil companies, again to keep a level playing field. Get a baseline read, keep doing it once a week while drilling, and then every two or three months after the well is working for a preset time frame. I support Shell, and know that they are very concerned about community.
In the end its about have honest conversation without the name calling, finger pointing, fit tossing behavior that has been shown in the past. Life is about learning how to work with each other, not having everything on the left or right, but somewhere in the middle.
Yes, I have, I see those lights, and I see the chance of being independent away from the demands of foreign oil. IF this whole middle East thing gets out of control we could see gas prices from 8.00 to 10.00 a gallon. The effect on this nation would be breath taking, and change this nation as we know it. It could remove all hope of a better place for children. In the end, Children are our most valuable resource.
I also embrace Green Energy. Natural Gas IS a green energy, that is why you see drilling up and down I 70 a veiw of things to come. Natural Gas stations for cars and trucks. I support Wind, Solar for sure. But, what do we do in the meantime? Our electrical grid can not handle wind or solar because it is so antiquated. Yet congress will not pass a jobs bill that can help with this. Democrats push green energy, and I agree, but even in the end only 25% of our energy needs can ever come from Green energy and it will take 25 to 45 years to get there. UNLESS.....we embrace natural gas, and better ways to use oil, gas and coal. My way of thinking IS of my neighbor, my children, grandchildren and what we are handing over. Are we a nation dependent, or a nation independent.
For the record, I am a Democrat, and from a long line of them. I am one that supports the constitution, and privacy issues like abortion, and the rights to use ones land that serves them the best. When liberals wade in on this debate it looks as foolish as the GOP screaming less government unless it has to do with a womans body. Or, the need for jobs, and vote against a jobs bill or making this nation system better so it can embrace new technology. Or even better, embracing war and sending young men and women in harms way, but vote against any effort to help or support them. Bring them home. open the oil field, coal, and all green technology. Build something back up something worth handing over. For those of you that are going to say, but what about the water....I will add, and technology of cleaning and reuse of a all things. We are not locked into just business as usual, why not embrace what we have, and make it better and better???
The extreme of ideas are killing this nation. Time to back up, know that we share this place and there is more than one idea and one way of doing something to get to the same results. It takes work, the ability to look past preceptions, and beliefs to find that common area to work from. We can do it. Its as simple as stop buying in to so many forms of propaganda, and know we are all better than that.
The Constitution of the United States covers the rights of property owners loud and clear. I am not a lawyer, but I embrace the rights put in place for people of this nation. Thomas Jefferson when he drafted the Declaration of Independence, stated the issue simply: ‘‘Lives, Liberties, and Estates. James Madison, echoed those thoughts when he wrote that ‘‘as a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights.’’
James Madison, Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson were are very clear in the belief that no one has the right to tell people who own their land how they can it. Madison said, people have ‘‘a property" in their rights. If the right to property did not entail the right of use, it would be an empty promise."
The notion of ‘‘intruding’’ on by state and local governments. Under the Fourteenth Amendment, properly understood and applied, those governments have no more right to violate the constitutional rights of citizens than the federal government has to intrude on the legitimate powers of state and local governments. Federalism is not a shield for local tyranny. It is a brake on tyranny, whatever its source. I do believe that this covers the over reach of the county and local citizens in effort to stop those who embrace oil and gas, and the right of "prosperity" of those who own the land.
The Liberal Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun said it well. "If one accepts the modern American credo that the government should not tell one how to live his life, and that the government cannot and should not legislate morality, or trample on personal rights." I don't know how much clearer it can be? Property, and the right to live ones life with out local, state, or federal government standing in the way of prosperity.
Fracking has been around since the 1940s. Millions of wells have been drilled, and less that one percent of that number has ever had water issues. Indian Valley in Rio Blanco County, known to the Native Americans as a place to winter. There was a place called the Pot Holes, a place where water burned. That was a "natural" event. Drilling has been in Routt County for a very long time. First well drilled was on the Carptener Ranch in the late 1800s. I might add, no Fracking needed because it was shallow surface oil, and close to the river.
Routt County, is my heritage I am generation six and a Grandmother. My Grandfather was a Roughneck and worked here in the 1900s, he died in 1946. My Dad graduated from Hayden in 1951 and was a Roughneck and a Coal Miner here in this area. In 1983 my husband, Roughnecked here two years drilling around Millner and Mt. Harris.They hit alot of oil. It was also one of the first directional drilling rigs in the area at that time. Nothing new. Routt County has ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT ENERGY. IT IS THE TAX BASE, its also needed in our nation right now.....UNTIL other energy can step forward.
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