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I am against this tax but I ask why is this one a problem and the tax for the schools is not? That was a city vote and it goes to all schools in the county. Why isn't it a county tax and collected in Hayden and S Routt also?
Kathy last time I checked moffat county had two large rivers where Routt only has one there is more water flowing in moffat than Routt
Sled don't you know the self important will never learn?
West you may not see a disruption on the surface I agree but that does not change the fact that the water was slowed. As an engineer you should know that friction decreases flow of water in a pipe the majority of water moves in the middle of the pipe and the water around the edges hardly moves due to friction. A river is the same. Friction slows the water on the bottom and edges. Now you put a series of obstacles in the middle of the river you increase friction and disrupt the main flow. Now it is acting like a small clog in a sewer line. When there is low flow you will not see a prob. When there is moderate flow you might notice but when you have the dishwasher and clothes washer running and your wife in the downstairs shower and you flush the upstairs toilet her feet are going to see the result.
Sled I am NOT blaming any one. I am only pointing out what most have not thought of. I live way out of the flood plain and have no problems. Most seem to blame bald eagle and I do not agree.
Hubie do you know when all the work in the river has taken place I do not have the dates but am very sure it is after the pre bald eagle lake pics.
West as far as Bald Eagle Lake is concerned. it is a hole in the ground. If the river is topping the bank of the Yampa and running across the top and out in the flood plain the lake is not contributing to the problem. The water would be flooding the area any way. For being an engineer congrats. I have years of experience of seeing what happens as erosion control is placed streams are altered ponds are built. I have worked in the Yampa in different places and seen the effects. I am not saying that all that was done was wrong just when dealing with Mother Nature the effects can be drastic and not what was shown on paper. One point bald eagle lake is not the biggest change to the water table along the Yampa in the past 30 years. Look at both Lafarge pits that are no longer being pumped and flooded as the pumps can’t keep up. They are no longer taking up the slack. I also find it interesting that you are against the building of manmade ponds but not manmade alterations to the river.
It is not just c hole there has been work done from 13th upstream to the state lands across from humble ranch. And as any kid knows if you step in a ditch you don’t stop all the water you slow it down when it is slowed down it backs up. Somewhere along the line it will find a low point and run out. I have seen little ditches with a plugged culvert cause water to wash over a road more than a mile from the culvert.
you don't suppose that the last 10 years of slowing the flow of the yampa from tree haus to 13th street has any thing to do with it do ya?? all rocks for fish habatat, the rebuilding of c hole. whats good for fish might not be good for the public
JLM I agree just look at the buildings the city has done. Let's start with howelsen hill lodge. The roof caved in. lets look at the planning building the snow slides and water drips making ice in the stair wells. The fire station was how far over budget? The transit center can't even have a decent accel lane for the busses to get back on 40. The entry had two options to be across from another road and they split the difference and put a stop light in the middle boy that helps the citizens. The list goes on and on. The city gov should be to provide needed services. Police, fire department, water, sewer, road maintenance. Beyond that there are a few nice things they do like parks and rec. they do not belong in housing. They don't belong being a developer. The free market will take care of its self it the gov stays out. Current studies show the houses that are being built in this economy are not the show homes of the past. They are more affordable and realistic.
I agree water rights are important. I do want to point out the city is the one that made it extremely difficult for ranchers and developers to get water rights. Their water grab in 2006 changed the water rights on the yampa above the library from over appropriated to critical. This was for a recreational water right. But then the city is limiting the recreation on the yampa. You can't tube this section only so many tubes allowed what good is the recreational water right when the recreation is taken away??
Ok so I have a question the CA is against growth right? But the CA is for affordable housing right? Have they ever considered supply and demand? The past few years should have illustrated it for them. Housing prices were out of control, there was a high demand. All it took was a pulse to get a loan. Now housing prices are dropping you have to qualify for a loan. To get AH in steamboat we need a steady supply of new houses and new development. The developers cannot be regulated to death in the process. To cope with the headache and cost of dealing with groups like the CA they just raise the price. To offset deed restricted lots the raise the price of all other lots/ units. This leaves a development of the RICH and the POOR who in most cases are not working enough or not making smart decisions with their money/lifestyle. Think of all the AH that happened in the last 6 years how are those people now?? Many of them qualified for loans that the never should have.
So what does the CA really want??? Can't ride 2 horses with one butt.
I agree with Steve A. true locals are ignorant. We have allowed people like him to move to our valley and become involved. Involved in politics, deciding what is best for us. Someone who can't tell the difference between stage coach and catamount is trying to push a watershed protection ordinance? Someone who recently moved here says we need to limit the number of new comers? Thinks winter carnival is just to attract tourists. This guy misrepresents himself (motor cycle on computer but does not own one) he also misrepresents what this valley is about. There are some who agree with him. But there are many who do not. Those of us who don't are often working and do not have the time to be as active as we should.
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