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"The true evidence of people lacking education are those that deny the basic science of global warming."
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Interesting how a simple informational piece about encouraging those low math score families to get involved with their school counselor gets twisted into an argument over your agenda and you wonder why some of your comments are deleted.
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of lives...you just can't make this stuff up. Brian Harvey, I do hope you are taking notes for your next installment of As The Boat Turns!
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Ultimately Joel, we are where we are because of you. These men, and they are all men, are ultimately under your command and therefore your responsibility. Take ownership of the situation and just come forward with a simple statement. I was wrong. I take responsibility for my command and the men under my supervision. Investigate me and find what you will. Do not let Deb Hinsvark sugar coat it. Hang my dirty laundry out for all to see. In the end let the public and city council judge my performance and decide my fate.
Sadly, the images posted here today are pretty damning evidence of a police department using too much force on people using a 24 hour fitness facility. Are you kidding me? How are we only finding out about this now. Shame on everyone involved for not being transparent and open about this and and a city council not having done something about it a long time ago.
If I were one of these victims I would be alerting state or federal authorities to intervene. All we keep hearing about is how botched this process already is with weekly back and forth between city council and a city manager and the Pilot attempting to bring it all to light. The whole thing is a shame. Clean house and begin anew with a fresh command and a new approach to policing in this town.
"And if the allegations prove to be true, city leaders will need a comprehensive body of information that will provide them with clear direction on who to hold responsible and what actions need to be taken to fix the issues to ensure something of this alleged magnitude never happens again."
How about we hold city leaders responsible for placing them in their positions in the first place. It is my understanding the positions were filled without opening up the process to public scrutiny but then again we elected the leaders. Correct me if I am wrong please.
Your view is shared by many judging by the signs posted around town on trash receptacles. When will the appearance of 'confict of interest' ever become a driving factor to these people who decide how to spend our tax dollars. This goes back a long ways to more than just this current issue. It's a bigger problem that seems endemic to 'how things get done' around here.
Not all current members of council should be considered 'guilty' here...
Tommy, as you can see my name appears directly next to my sign in username. The pilot no longer allows anonymous individuals to weigh in on these heavy subjects. While you were interviewing these First Amendment activists, pesky millennials, did you get to know whether or not any of them have personal experience with the alleged behavior of our police department leaders? Perhaps you were speaking to the son or daughter of someone with intimate knowledge of the rumored issues. Or perhaps you might address me with your defense of these individuals as I know several of the people mentioned in the letter and have heard rumblings of such issues going on for years. It appears the line was crossed some time ago and a number of people have had enough. You might read the letter signed by a number of former city Council presidents and former Steamboat Springs Police Department officers. If they are cleared of any wrongdoing I'll be the first in line to thank them for their service and hope that in the future they make an effort to display a little more diversity on the force.
What is sad about this entire business is careers and lives are on the line. When the bodies are counted at the end of the day, I want to know how many careers and lives the people being investigated have affected. In the end will we reflect on this period in Steamboat Springs history and ask why didn't they just resign and move on to something else and save all of us time and money?
I just came to read the commentary.
The status quo will never change with the addition of new Editorial Board members.
It would be too controversial to actually publish statements that challenge what everyone learns about in the commentary. When the public actually becomes so enraged with the way it goes day to day, week to week, and year to year, someone will collect enough signatures to put it to a vote in this city to do away with the leadership structure in place and try something new.
Joining the editorial board would old perpetuate the mundane topics they weigh in on.
That is my 2 cents and it's all I got left to put in after paying rent for the month. On a brighter note it's always nice to see some informative commentary still being allowed by the Pilot here. I will continue to scroll the NEWS and look for stories with comments. That is where the news is and the blotter is such great entertainment.
Agreed Scott. Anyone can argue that living where we do is pretty amazing but expensive. We work multiple jobs to be able to ski a handful of days every winter or enjoy a paddle or float anytime we want without having to book a room and stay a few nights. In fact, in a matter of a few years we have created more mountain biking trail than one can ride in a year!
Free concerts for this full time resident is the last of my concerns. I have yet to make it a point to attend one because of this artist or that. You hit the nail on the head though with my willingness to pay a fee to see a band more noteworthy. Am I asking to bring back string cheese? Not exactly but I sure hear some amazing stuff on NPR out of Fort Collins. Up and coming groups that really would bring that front range dollar.
Why are we so fixated on free this and free that? Are we that afraid to pay a little more? We are already paying over the top rents if we don't own and if we own we are lucky to get more than 1000 sq feet for less than $250,000. Steamboat is changing and has been for decades. It is growing every year. It's likely a matter of time before our "leadership" starts to initiate real change in this valley and makes building housing that is attainable for more working folks a priority. Again, free concerts are the least of this resident's concerns. When Tom Petty is on the summer series for $10 or even $20, I will be there.
How much have things changed folks?link text
Would a mayoral system streamline things or at least possibly day light what the heck is going on?
Food for thought, my 8 month pregnant wife waited 40 minutes for a bus at Central Park the other day in sub zero temps. This topic is a tough one to comment on without really wanting to throw the laptop at the wall...just sayin'
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