Paul Brabenec: Put stop signs on Yampa

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To the editor,

If the city wants to change the feel of Yampa Street, one thing it can do is stop routing through traffic from the highway (Lincoln Avenue) onto Yampa. This has been done by creating a stop-less route from 12th all the way to Fifth Street that avoids the several stoplights on Lincoln. Putting stop signs on the Yampa intersections would make this a less attractive alternative and remove some of the motor traffic from Yampa Street.

Thank you.

Paul Brabenec

Steamboat Springs

Comments

rhys jones 6 months ago

NO $#!+!! I don't even drive, and that sucks. Work your shocks, that's what I always say. That's your public servants looking out for you, and money well-spent.

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rhys jones 6 months ago

It's coming, folks, Say bye-bye to Yampa. Speed bumps are just the first step. Curbs are next. 6th to 9th, at a minimum.

We can't re-route 40, so Lincoln as a pedestrian mall there is out of the question. The traffic, pedestrian and automated, make streetside dining a downright hazard. Can we all squeeze around?

Yeah, get the cops outta there, this could be great!!

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Peter Arnold 6 months ago

There was a proposal once long ago to re-route 40 down 20 mile. It was an interesting idea that did not catch on but you never know it might again...It would likely be the most ridiculous discussion you could imagine but here is something to chew on. Divert thru traffic, trucks and the like, across the Yampa right through the Iron Horse and down in front of Howelsen Arena, the rodeo grounds, and beyond. Tunnel through the little mountain in the way and link up to 20 mile on down to The James Brown Soul Center of the Universe and you will have a diversion which would give you two lane traffic on Lincoln and your curbside dining. Laughing yet? Crazier things have happened.

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john bailey 6 months ago

didn't Rhys come up with that idea ? how bout same route but elevated ? perfect , no ?~;0)

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Fred Duckels 6 months ago

Peter, That kind of thinking is frowned upon in these parts. The only solution for traffic and parking is a magic tweak that requires no effort and supports every agenda known to man.

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Peter Arnold 6 months ago

I believe you Fred! I heard the guy that proposed that years ago was tarred and feathered and run out of town on a donkey along with his consultant's fee for the proposal! Well, not quite like that but I did hear a few homeowners back then in Fairview were not keen on the idea. When you look at what city council is doing now they seem to be doing things a bit more methodically, bit by bit, stop sign by stop sign. First they are going for a new police HQ which is needed as they have outgrown the one they are in. Next will likely be a nice new fire station just outside downtown and magically we will have a piece of property that will be turned into a parking structure, retail front, and penthouse condos on top to beautify downtown more and generate some income one quarter at a time...Is that the kind of thinking you are eluding to Fred?

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Scott Wedel 6 months ago

I would be surprised if there is ever a large parking garage built on Lincoln or Yampa. Urban designers hate them because they create voids in pedestrian flow and cause people to say they've gone far enough and turn around. This city loves urban designers too much to ever go that much against their plans.

I think the plan would be large remote parking lots (Elk River parcel anyone?) with shuttles to downtown. If downtown workers including city and county employees weren't parking downtown then there would barely be any parking issues.

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Scott Wedel 6 months ago

I recall that it was a traffic study that showed over half of SB hwy 40 traffic either started or ended their car trip downtown or turning from or onto a downtown street was what ended the talk of a bypass. The traffic study also found that very small percentage of hwy 40 traffic was driving completely through SB (ie the trip included Milner and Rabbit Ears)

So given the facts of local driving patterns, there just isn't a plausible bypass that would make any difference without being insanely expensive.

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Peter Arnold 6 months ago

The proposal I refer to was from decades ago so I am not sure what study you refer to Scott and will await your clarification...

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Scott Wedel 6 months ago

That traffic study was 10 or 15 years ago. No idea if anyone could find it.

I don't know if there was a study prior to the recent reconstruction of Lincoln. I think that construction effort is also a pretty clear sign that CDOT has no plans for a bypass for at least 15 years.

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