Susie Makens: No apology from me

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The other day I went to see the movie, “America.” Not knowing what to expect, I was captivated from the beginning.

The history presented brought back reminders of what I had learned in my younger years. Why America became the great nation we are. I felt the writer of this movie did an excellent job in presenting some very fundamental facts about America. Where we have been and where we are going.

Highlighted throughout this movie were the distortions to counteract the truths about American history. What is truly frightening is how these untruths are being integrated into our country today and have been seeping into our lives for many years now much like a cancer.

America was founded upon God as well as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. America has prospered with ingenuity, entrepreneurship, hard work, capitalism and so forth. However, there are the antagonists here in America who want to destroy everything we were built upon? This has been a work in progress and has exploded at an alarming rate during the past six years.

Take for example the huge movement against capitalism emphasizing the evils of corporations. A few years ago, there were some protesters here in Steamboat holding signs that said, “Down with Capitalism.” I approached them and told them they should stand there naked with “Against Capitalism” written on their bodies in their own blood. They looked shocked, but I reminded them that everything they were using and wearing was a product of capitalism.

You don’t want it, than don’t use it. I, for one, am thankful for many of the changes that capitalism has done for our country. Thank goodness for dishwashers, dryers, medicine, cars, inside toilets and so forth.

Recently, a friend posted some comments to her site with the following message:

Defend our borders

English as the primary language

Balanced Budget

U.S Constitution & Bill of Rights our foundation

Tax Reform

Term Limits for Congress & Senators

Mandatory drug screening before welfare

A young college student posted back stating that this was ridiculous and could not be taken seriously. Unfortunately, she is not the minority but is well to becoming the majority with the younger population. They are learning from what is being taught in the schools, through media and other forms of communication.

This is exactly what was stated in the movie, “America.” All one has to do is tune into some sort of media outlet, and we constantly are being reminded how bad America is and continues to be. Really? In fact, our own president goes around apologizing for everything we have done and we stand for.

I do have a suggestion for all of you who are so ashamed of America, please feel free to move somewhere else, such as Cuba or North Korea, there is a waiting line to enter. I am so tired of hearing how America constantly is taking a beating from people who claim to call themselves Americans.

Do you realize that our government, along with other influential people, is bullying us into believing all this garbage? We worry about bullying in school, but look at who is the biggest one of all. It is only going to get worse unless we start standing up for what America was built upon.

Every American should see this movie. Perhaps it will remind all of us what a great country we are so fortunate to live in.

I will never apologize. God bless America!

Comments

Tim Keenan 1 month, 2 weeks ago

The mindset that says America can do and has done no wrong is truly frightening. How can you improve if you think you're already perfect?

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mark hartless 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Not nearly as freightening (and out of sync with reality) as the mindset that says America's "balance sheet" on planet earth is negative.

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Liz Cecil 1 month, 2 weeks ago

According to the reviews, it's quite a movie:

"The ways D'Souza appropriates famous figures and misreads history (slavery wasn't so bad, because all civilizations did it, he argues at one point) are ludicrous."

"Designed to appeal to the convinced believer, its purpose is not to inform or reveal but rather to reinforce and inflame viewers’ existing prejudices."

"Graced with a hilariously definitive title, America is astonishingly facile, a film comprised entirely of straw man arguments."

"Rather than deal with the complexity of mainstream dissent and the country’s long history of charged political discussion, D’Souza sets it up as bad guys and good guys. It is easy to imagine which opinions belong to which groups. Finding the more extreme critics of the U.S., he interviews those who advocate returning the country to Mexico or the Indians or just in general gutting it. His lack of shame is so complete that he includes as a “representative” dissenting voice Ward Churchill, an anti-American extremist."

"Dinesh D'Souza taps his Tea Party audience for more Obama-bashing cash before he goes to prison for trying to buy an election."

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Dan Kuechenmeister 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Gillibrand 72%, Long 26% D'Souza $20,000. Yep he is a hardened criminal. How can anybody with an ounce of common sense accuse any one Democrat or Republican of trying to buy a senate race with $20,000 some of which they could legally contribute. No bias to that accusation, eh. LOL

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Jeff Kibler 1 month, 2 weeks ago

One wonders why Jon Corzine(D) served no time.

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Brian Kotowski 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Tim Keenan: I'm confident you can document the various points in the film where America's perfection is advanced, and how D'Souza asserts that "America can do and has done no wrong." Only someone who's seen the film could stake a claim like that, lest they rightly be ridiculed for their childish spew.

Liz Cecil: An interesting (if juvenile) game - I think I'll play along:

“A well written, presented and persuasive critique of the American journey; complete with our warts and blemishes.”

“It’s a powerful, controversial film which will keep your interest, provoke disputes, and fuel relevant debate. How many other films can make that claim?”

“It is provocative, shocking, educational and prophetic.”

“Comprehensively researched and ingeniously presented. As the film begins, the audience is tempted to believe they're watching a Michael Moore film. D'Souza pummels the viewer with a passionate barrage of scathing indictments of the American founding, its history, and transgressions.”

“Bill Ayers, Ward Churchill, Noam Chomsky, Saul Alinsky, Michel Foucault, Howard Zinn. Just a few of the progressive left luminaries deployed as pivot points into a thought-provoking and insightful discourse.”

Perhaps you can explain, Liz, why certain reviews are more relevant than others. And whether or not you're so lazy and childish so as to adopt the opinions of strangers instead of arriving at your own conclusions after having seen the film.

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Liz Cecil 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Wow, Brian, you must have gone to a very red place to find those reviews! No, I doubt if I'll be seeing the movie. But the reviews are so entertaining I'm almost tempted. Here are a few more for you:

"America" is like the cinematic equivalent of one of those forwarded e-mails of mostly discredited "facts" that you receive from an uncle and at least those sometimes include family photos or a meat loaf recipe that can be of some value. "

"For that matter, Moore is also an entertaining screen presence as well, which is more than can be said for D'Souza. He has precious little screen presence, his interview style veers between the fawning to the absurdly combative and he practically oozes untrustworthiness to such a degree that he winds up undercutting whatever arguments he might have legitimately made."

"Hilariously, just minutes after reducing Occupy Wall Street to an assault on small hamburger shops, D'Souza attacks insurance companies and Wall Street executives as fellow travelers in Obamacare, this country's one unpardonable sin."

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Brian Kotowski 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Speaking of Jabba the Moore, it turns out the left's favorite anti-capitalist poseur is actually a card-carrying member of the one percent. Poor sod has to scrape by on his $50 million net worth (and that's only what he's reported to his wife's divorce attorney). In his defense, however, he is burdened with the unimaginable stress of deciding which of his 9 homes to forklift himself into.

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mark hartless 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Don't forget Robert Redford. He just filed a lawsuit to avoid paying some taxes and fines for non-payment. I guess the $1.6 million he kept back from the treasury just isn't part of those increased taxes the left thinks we need to operate our gubbamint. Aftel all, socialism isn't for the socialists, it's for the rest of us...

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Jeff Kibler 1 month, 2 weeks ago

I'm no fan of Redford, but he's fighting New York State income taxes.
Although I agree that he should share his wealth, and pay more federal taxes.

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Scott Wedel 1 month, 2 weeks ago

No dispute that Redford paid the federal treasury the owed taxes.

The question is whether he owes taxes to NY State over the sale of the Sundance Channel. He is arguing that as a resident of Utah that he pays state taxes in Utah, not NY.

Pretty funny that conservatives are arguing he should pay taxes just because he can when they so often argue that people and companies should use the tax laws to avoid paying taxes when legally possible.

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Jeff Kibler 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Get back to me when that evil conservative (sarc) Warren Buffet and Berkshire Hathaway pay their $1 billion in back taxes.

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mark hartless 1 month, 2 weeks ago

I'm not arguing that he should pay "just because he can". I'm arguing that people like him expect others to pay "just because THEY can" while hiring the best attorneys to avoid the same fate themselves. THAT is what makes him a hypocrite, Scott.

The question is, What is his "fair share"? If liberal talking points detrermine that then he clearly is gonna pay this 1.6 mil.

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Brian Kotowski 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Liz Cecil:

Glad to see my post elicited a 'wow' from you. Your reply, not so much. Particularly your non-response to my final graph. I can't say as I blame you - acknowledging one's own demagoguery & hypocrisy is rarely a self esteem builder. So much easier to double down, and copy & paste all the childish straw men the internet can provide. One doesn't even have to be original.

Incidentally, did you know my tea party leanings make me a racist? I've seen it online so it must be true. Oh, and I'm a terrorist too. So saith the Plagiarist In Chief.

The American left is so... thoughtful.

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mark hartless 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Liz Cecil: "I won't go see the movie, but I'll spew all over it and call all you conservatives "haters".

That pretty much sums it up for the Liz Cecil party...

Yes, I saw the movie weeks ago when it first came out; not because I expected much from it but because I was out of town and bored. It was NOT a masterpiece.

In Liz's defense I wouldn't expect any conversions from a piece such as this. Those who see it are already in agreement and those who disagree wouldn't dare risk assaulting their assumptions by exposing themselves to alternative points of view.

So much for minds working like parachutes...

Just remember we heard it right here..." I'll not hear your presentation but I'll criticize and bitch about it..." That's the "open-minded" progressive of modern-day America.

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Tim Keenan 1 month, 2 weeks ago

Ignorance is bliss, I guess. It must be so nice to think in terms of good and evil.

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rhys jones 1 month, 2 weeks ago

To quote a song I heard last night -- There's no them, there's only us.

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Robert Huron 1 month, 1 week ago

The US is probably the greatest Nation on earth and Capitalism help put us there. There have been many great people in our history and even great people make mistakes. What makes them great people is that when they make a mistake they are man or woman enough to admit it and if necessary apologize for it. The same goes for our great nation. When it has screwed up it needs to admit it and make amends. Mr. D'Souza is the Michael Moore of the extreme right and he made this movie like Moore for like minded people. They will love his interpretation of history where slavery was good, the Native Americans where going to die anyway from disease and Capitalism was always right. This is a real stretch of the truth. When Japanese-Americans, yes US citizens homes, businesses and possessions where taken from them without due process and they were sent to the camps was not just a mistake but criminal. They were owed an apology and much more. The bailout of Wall St. by the taxpayers to the tune of $780 Billion of which $30 Billion went for bonuses to the people that tanked our economy is just one example of Capitalism gone crazy at our expense. They truly believed "Greed is Good." The invasions of Vietnam and Iraq were big mistakes that took the lives of many thousands. When we all came home from Vietnam we were treated like crap. I'm still waiting for that apology. Yes we are the greatest nation on earth but we are not perfect and when we do screw up we need to admit it, make amends and move on hopefully not making the same mistake in the future. That is what makes us a great nation.

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mark hartless 1 month, 1 week ago

There is good in the world. There is evil in the world.

Therefore, thinking in those terms is simply logical, rather than "nice". Many would much rather see the world through the lens of their imagination, John Lennon was one of these. But no matter how hard he strummed his guitar and sang of utopia, EVIL still shot him down. It didn't care.

You can't reason with or placate evil; Neville Chamberlain found this out the hard way when dealing with Hitler and it nearly cost him all of Great Britain.

Throughout history many innocent (not evil or good) human lives have been lost because men ignored or denied evil until it waxed so strong as to threaten the entire world. Hitler was one of those evils. An Iranian state with nuclear weapons will be the next.

There are evil men in Washington DC right now. They mean to harm this nation. They are all too happy to use those people who Vladimir Lenin referred to as "useful idiots".

Whether one is willing to acknowledge this present day evil or not is of no concern to the evil. In fact it quitely and happily marches on, gaining strength, being aided by those who obfuscate and deny it, just as they did for Lenin, who set in motion a regime that killed over 70 million.

It "must be nice" to believe we now live in a world where this can't happen...

If you believe there's "no them, only us" tell it to the 300 people Vladimir Putin shot out of the sky; or to the christians trapped and starving and being slaughtered by EVIL, bloodthirsty muslims in Iraq as we speak.

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Tim Keenan 1 month, 1 week ago

And if you think the US has always been the good guy no matter what it has done, you're letting your country down. This country needs people who acknowledge our past mistakes -- such as torturing prisoners -- and strives not to repeat them. You can't do that if you believe we're always justified no matter what. If I had to pick an evil man in DC in the past decade, it would be one Dick Cheney.

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mark hartless 1 month, 1 week ago

I never said America was perfect and I never, ever voted for Dick Cheney.

BTW his approval numbers were right in line with Barrack Obama's current numbers. So pick your poision/evil.

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Tim Keenan 1 month, 1 week ago

Oops, maybe 20 years. 30? 40? I forgot about Rummy and that whole neocon cabal that figured 9-11 was the perfect excuse for an American crusade. One of the best things Bush did was stop listening to Cheney and the rest of them. If he hadn't, we'd be paying $10 a gallon for gas right now and our economy would be in tatters. Those guys thought that the 21st century was America's chance to rule the world. They wrote a policy paper about it and then found themselves with an opportunity to make it happen. These were the same guys that figured we'd turn Iraq into a thriving democracy overnight. We can thank Bush that they weren't able to initiate the rest of their plans.

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Brian Kotowski 1 month, 1 week ago

Keep trotting out your asinine canard, Tim. You're good at it. I know I'm spitting into wind here, but I'll do it anyway and wipe myself off afterwards: who is asserting that "the US has always been the good guy no matter what it has done"? The answer is no one. But you keep setting up that pathetic straw man because you evidently believe knocking it down shows that you're perceptive or heroic something.

In reality,you're neither. Childish would be a more accurate label. The US ended slavery. 'Bbbut segregation! Jim Crow!' wails Tim. The US led the west to victory in the Cold War. 'Bbbut racism! Imperialism! Iran/Contra!' comes the rant.

No nation on earth can claim to be without behavior in its past that it regrets in the present. If past transgression is the calculus for a present day evaluation, then every human being on earth is a miscreant.

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Liz Cecil 1 month, 1 week ago

Brian, think about it: you're making nasty personal attacks on people you don't know in an online forum. You and Hartless are honestly quite scary. I posted negative reviews about the movie I didn't see, so you guys call me 'lazy, childish, spewing all over it and calling all you conservatives haters.' I took the time to comment because I find it interesting that this movie has the very lowest critic rating of any movie I could find on Rotten Tomatoes. Also that the writer if this letter says she went to the movie, "not knowing what to expect." Hmmm. Guys, take a walk, call a friend, get a massage. You're hurting your health.

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Brian Kotowski 1 month, 1 week ago

I took my nephew to see Avatar, once upon a time. Thought it was the stupidest movie I'd ever seen, and said so to my friends and associates whenever the subject came up. Shared that opinion in an online forum too, as I recall. I would never have considered weighing in without having seen the film. That, to me, would have been childish. That you find that perspective to be "nasty" and "scary (lol)" only confirms your childishness. Thanks for making my point.

I'm not sure how to suggest you deal with your fear of me and Hartless. Call someone and have a good cry, perhaps. I'll be biking Mad Creek at dawn. Be sure to stay away. We wouldn't want you to risk an encounter with someone so nasty and scary.

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Brian Kotowski 1 month, 1 week ago

Incidentally, I went to Avatar "not knowing what to expect." I have no idea what that says about me, nor what Liz Cecil believes it says about Ms. Makens. Perhaps it's something only the sanctimonious liberal can understand.

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Liz Cecil 1 month, 1 week ago

Brian, re read your last comment to Tim. If that's not a nasty personal attack I don't know what is. The number of very negative reviews of this movie from different critics is remarkable - and interesting on their own. You seem to be undone by me posting excerpts from those but not giving my own personal review. And I find it highly unlikely that the writer of this letter went to a movie like America with no idea what to expect.

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Dan Kuechenmeister 1 month, 1 week ago

Hey Liz, How much do you know about Dinesh D'Souza. I won't comment on the movie. Didn't see it. Don't go to Michael Moore either. I am kind of a Lord of the Rings, pirates of the Caribbean guy. But when you offer no opinion and only quote reviews you apparently agree with you do lose credibility. When you post the quote about Dinesh D'Souza trying to "buy an election" it suggests to me that you really have no knowledge about D'Souza. The good news is you have the first amendment right to say pretty much what ever you want. Welcome to the public forum.

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Brian Kotowski 1 month, 1 week ago

Liz: Reading comprehension is evidently a bit of a challenge for you, so let's see if we can't dumb it down and make it more understandable. Tim Keenan has excoriated - more than once - other parties to this discussion for asserting that "the US has always been the good guy no matter what it has done." Problem is, Tim has invented that position out of whole cloth and ascribed to people who have never expressed it. He's lied about us, in other words. That you have absolutely no problem with that kind of malfeasance says more about you than you realize.

You think calling Tim childish was nasty? Well, get a load of this: he's a liar as well.

And then there's this, from you: "And I find it highly unlikely that the writer of this letter went to a movie like America with no idea what to expect." In other words, Ms. Makens' is a liar and her letter is not to be believed. Goodness - a "...nasty personal attack on people you don't know in an online forum." Hypocrite much?

Liz Cecil and Tim Keenan - sanctimony, wrapped in arrogance, surrounded by hypocrisy.

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Liz Cecil 1 month, 1 week ago

Oh, Brian, you are a hopeless case I guess. Fortunately, the younger generation of conservatives seems to be more reasonable. My reading comprehension skills are pretty good, actually. Not to be presumptuous, but I'm pretty sure I could beat you in that area. Reading your comments allows me (and anyone else who is actually reading them) to comprehend some things about you. You didn't seem to properly understand anything Tim said. And maybe you don't really understand the meaning of 'nasty, personal attack.' It's been fun, but I've spent enough time poking the hornets nest. Reading those negative reviews must have really made you guys crazy. And they were most definitely relevant to any discussion of this movie!

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Jeff Kibler 1 month, 1 week ago

Here's a suggestion: watch the movie instead of posting reviews. I find reviewers' opinions pretty much useless, regardless of their political bent. Little Miss Sunshine was panned by many reviewers when it was first released. Once it became some sort of cult classic, the retrospective reviews turned positive.

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Brian Kotowski 1 month, 1 week ago

An excellent point; likely to be lost upon crusaders among us. I too have not watched the movie. Chances are I will, once it's available online. In the meantime, I've downloaded the Kindle edition of the book and plan to read it during my flight to Hawaii in the fall.

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