Kevin Copeland: Ban the bone

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In the wake of the Boston tragedy, I would hope that our present elected officials are willing to fall all over one another to be the first to pass some meaningful, feel-good legislation to ban improvised explosive devices so as to keep them out of the hands of criminals. As I perceive it, present laws are obviously being circumvented.

They also should demand background checks on everyone who purchases BBs, marbles, ball bearings, staples and nails — all common objects that can be acquired by craven misfits to maximize the carnage of these cowardly devises.

I am lividly enraged (as are all good humans) by all these despicable acts of violence perpetrated against us. Unfortunately, there are gutless subhumans with demented agendas who do in fact live among us. This has been a fact of life since man first walked the earth.

We should also ban bones, one of which was most likely used to club the first human ever murdered. We could then go further and ban some of the most common vile things used to kill: objects such as pencils, baseball bats, hammers, hatchets, narcotics, fire, rope, plastic bags, duct tape, fists, feet, concrete, water, knives, pressure cookers and microwaves, to name a few. Also, let’s not forget planes, trains and automobiles!

Use your imagination; almost any object can be used to kill. If you envision it to be dangerous, it should be banned.

Litigate society until the cows come home, but it’s guaranteed the creeps who intend to do us harm will find a way regardless of laws added and rights removed.

Bottom line, it’s against the law to commit murder. Period!

Everyone needs to be more vigilant, work to better humanity locally, nationally and globally. Stress morals and value life. In addition, provide less media attention for perpetrators and politicians.

Our best defense is common sense. Something that the administrations in Colorado and Washington are sadly lacking, judging from their records regarding energy and firearms.

Next time you vote, vote for common sense! Ban mediocre politicians and their cronies!

Kevin Copeland

Routt County

Comments

Scott Wedel 1 year, 5 months ago

BTW, it is very much illegal to build these sort of explosive devices. It was not legal to build the bomb, own the bomb or transport the bomb.

Bombs, unlike guns, are considered too dangerous to make, own or transport.

We do not accept the claim that bombs are safe and should be legal since most people can use them responsibly. We do not accept the theory that bombs only become illegal when they are set off in populated areas and hurt many people. We do not accept that bombs are needed for people to protect their homes even though that would be effective against overreaching government.

So if you were to compare bombs and guns then you'd wonder why guns are legal and bombs are illegal. As was seen in the Aurora theater shooting, a man with legal guns can cause a similar amount of carnage as two well placed bombs. So why did one person have to construct their murderous devices and the other able to buy them at a retailer/

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Dan Kuechenmeister 1 year, 5 months ago

Hey Scott, Truthfully I am not sure what your point is. However as you imply that a gun is a murderous device and able to be bought at a retailer, what about the automobile. Best I can tell there were over 25,000 auto related deaths last year. These "murderous" devices are available at a "retailer" as well. Thanks as always for your thoughtful posts. Dan

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

Guns are made specifically to kill. There is no other manufacturer-intended use for them. Cars are intended as transportation and require a license to operate legally.

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mark hartless 1 year, 5 months ago

But they are not made specifically to kill children or other innocent people; just like cars are not made to be driven by drunks who crash them and kill innocent people; just like planes are not built to be flown into sky-scrapers... People take good things and pervert them for harmful (sinful) uses. Have been doing so since Eden and will continue to do so till ...

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

A gun is made to kill...period. It doesn't matter the specifics...it's only purpose is to kill. It has no other value. If you want to call that "perverting a good thing," more power to you.

A car is made for transportation...period. And again- the car requires a license to drive. It has a caveat to using it legally.

As Brian said, "People who don't get it often don't get that they don't get it."

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Dan Kuechenmeister 1 year, 5 months ago

I am thinking there is a caveat that guns be used legally as well. Regardless whether we are speaking guns or cars we don't need more laws. we need to enforce the laws we alresdy have. Are you aware that under the current administration gun laws are being enforced approximately 30% less then they were under the Bush administration. And there is that Fast and Furious thing that the Dems have tried to hide under a rock

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

Not the point. A gun only knows how to kill- it doesn't know innocent from guilty, just where it's pointed. Same with a car...except the car was not intended to ever be used as a weapon when it was created. A gun was specifically created to harm. You can sugar coat it all you like. If it helps, maybe some of the people killed by cars were evil.

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cindy constantine 1 year, 5 months ago

Matt,

Do you not understand that many sports require the use of a firearm and do not have anything to do with "killing" What about sporting clays, skeet and the pistol leagues that have competitors vying for accuracy at an inanimate target. What about the Olympic sports that require the use of a rifle? A gun is a tool and sports equipment. The shooters I know in Routt County are sporters (and most are not even hunters). And the most organic meat you can get is what you harvest afield. Much more humane to the animal that what you buy in saran covered packaging!!

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

How many of those Olympic sports use 30round mags? As I've said- I'm all for the 2nd Amendment. I also for restrictions of it.

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cindy constantine 1 year, 5 months ago

Remember the Colo Spgs church shooting several years ago? Remember the perp had several hand guns tucked into his belt with 10 round mags--reloading not necessary. What is the point of banning large capacity mags with millions in circulation? Evil is evil, crazy is crazy. Lucky for the church the lady was armed and took the perp out, especially since the contents of his car included an address book with the next targets. Same guy that had previously attacked another church group the night before in Arvada if memory serves me right. How about Congress spend time on truly meaningful legislation--like fixing the economy and addressing the debt and deficits where just maybe we can have bi-partisan discussion.

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

Cindy, if I remember correct, the New Life Church shooter had 2 handguns and a semi-auto, high powered rifle. I don't remember the mag sizes of each.

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Jeremy Johnston 1 year, 5 months ago

Guns are created to sustain life by feeding us and protecting us from harm.

In 2011 there were over 300 million guns in the U.S. 47% of American homes keep at least one gun. Of the 11,101 firearm homicides in 2011 rifles, including shotguns, were responsible for 679 deaths. Just 6%. Assault rifles specially 323. Hammers caused 496 deaths, kitchen knives 650, drunk drivers over 12,000, and medical malpractice over 195,000. Where are our priorities? You are 600 times more likely to be killed by your doctor than a semi auto rifle. Why don't we regulate hammers? Sometimes hammers are used to kill people, but they are very useful and without them society as we know it might collapse. Without knives we'd all go hungry. Guns are also tools we use to maintain our society. Why do you think that there isn't much crime in the mountains? Everyone knows mountain folks have guns. "Guns don't kill people..."

"...idiots who think they can legislate morality." Nice.

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

Guns were created to kill, not sustain life. For what you are saying, it must be used to kill 1st, in order to sustain. This is not a chicken or the egg analogy. Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals never used firearms or 30 round bows and they still hunted. Not one single other object you mentioned was created specifically with killing in mind. That's the difference. I don't expect you to understand.

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Jeremy Johnston 1 year, 5 months ago

Yes, I understand that a gun is meant to kill. So what? They are never retailed to be used for crime. That is an invention of the criminal mind. Still not sure what you are arguing. I am arguing for responsibility.

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Dan Kuechenmeister 1 year, 5 months ago

In 2000, the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety released a comprehensive report Unlicensed to Kill detailing the carnage being caused by unlicensed drivers. While the report did not identify if the unlicensed drivers were illegal aliens, it did note that of the 278,078 drivers involved in fatal crashes in the US between 1993 and 1997 some 3.7% were unlicensed, 2.7% were of unknown licensed status, and another 7.4% were driving on invalid licenses. The end result is that during the period, 42,049 people were killed in crashes involving at least one driver who was unlicensed, driving on an invalid license, or with a license of unknown status.

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Scott Wedel 1 year, 5 months ago

Dan,

I was responding to the letter that said " pass some meaningful, feel-good legislation to ban improvised explosive devices" by noting these IEDs are already very much illegal. So the letter didn't make much sense comparing IEDs with gun control because IEDs are very illegal.

IEDs are so illegal that local people have been charged with using a plastic soda bottle as an IED. If you were to put Mentos into soda bottle and snapped the lid closed so that it exploded on the street then you could be prosecuted!

Merely attempting to build an IED from a metal container can put you in jail for years even if your intent was to blow up a tree stump on your remote property.

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Dan Kuechenmeister 1 year, 5 months ago

Scott, I believe the reference to "pass some meaningful, feel-good legislation to ban improvised explosive devices" was sarcasm, but it did provide you with a chance to enter the bully pulpit and once again foment your support of tighter gun control laws. we get it. We all know where you stand. How about instead of passing more legislation, including in my opinion the misguided and ultimately ineffective legislation recently passed in Colorado, that the current laws are enforced. also, don't you find it ironic that Obama administration that promoted Fast and Furious aka giving guns to the bad guys, is all of a sudden wanting stricter gun control laws for we, the law abiding citizens. You know the bad guys aren't going to follow the law. That's why they are the bad guys.

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Brian Kotowski 1 year, 5 months ago

I have a 6 quart pressure cooker. I think 6 quarts makes it - gasp - "high capacity". Got it at Walmart, not too far away from the guns & ammo. In all honesty, the Plagiarist In Chief nailed my motivations for acquiring it: “[I] like the way it feels. You know, it’s like driving a Ferrari.” It is the height of irresponsibility that I wasn't required to undergo a background check as a condition of purchase.

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

How nice that people think the bombing is something to make fun of.

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mark hartless 1 year, 5 months ago

They aren't making fun of the bombing. They are making fun of idiots who think they can legislate morality.

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

By being facetious in equating this to gun control, you are making fun of the situation.

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Brian Kotowski 1 year, 5 months ago

No, we're ridiculing the farce of gun control. 'Controlling' my pressure cooker is just as ludicrous as 'controlling' my guns. Any gun control measure short of door-to-door confiscation amounts to pi$$ing in the wind. Bureaucratic sound & fury signifying nothing, except to tangle the law-abiding in red tape while having no impact on criminals, terrorists, or the deranged. You've imposed your own template to impugn those with whom you disagree.

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

"You've imposed your own template to impugn those with whom you disagree."

2 way street.

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Brian Kotowski 1 year, 5 months ago

People who don't get it often don't get that they don't get it.

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Scott Wedel 1 year, 5 months ago

Brian,

So put nails and gunpowder in your pressure cooker, put it in your backpack and discuss your right to carry with Sheriff Wiggins. Tell us how that went.

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mark hartless 1 year, 5 months ago

"Guns are made spacifically to kill... Cars are intended for transportation..." bla bla blaaa. Please... what a load of crap.

Guns were NOT made to kill INNOCENT people. They must be used in a manner contradictory to their purpose to do that.

Just like cars are not made to be driven by drunks and crashed into innocent people. They too must have their intended use perverted in order to do that.

Ditto for planes being flown into sky-scrapers.

Ditto for pressure cookers being turned into bombs...

It is foolish to blame the device when it is man's heart that is the problem. Always has been. Cain killed his brother Able long before guns. Drunks kill with cars. Others use planes, pressure cookers, knives, etc.

Frankly, this is why the anti-gun folks look so stupid. It's as if they are making insect repellant that is guaranteed to only work on ONE SPECIFIC bug.

This is also why it is legitimate to question their motives; whether it is to stop needless killing or to usurp and diminish the power of the "kind of people" that own guns.

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

If it makes you feel better about yourself, then keep believing that.

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mark hartless 1 year, 5 months ago

Of the hundreds of people in Boston who had their lives ruined, and of the 3 who are dead, how many would have been saved by removing all the guns from the whole wide world?

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

Not sure. How many would have been saved at Columbine, Sandy Hook, et. al.? The problem is that not one person on this thread (who have been advocating gun control) have made any comments to control pressure cookers. Not a single one. Copeland thought he'd use this (along with you and Kotowski hopping on the bandwagon) as a great way to joke around at the expense of the bombing. Have fun with it since it's a big joke to you all.

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brian kofke 1 year, 5 months ago

People like you chide those pesky gun rights advocates whilst ignoring the fact that the people you support in office are indiscriminately bombing people with drones; thats innocent men women and children our elected officials call collateral damage. How many would have been saved at columbine, sandy hook, ect... if the people in those massacres were armed? Answer that one. This is not a big joke; the big joke is how clueless people like you are.

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Matthew Stoddard 1 year, 5 months ago

Drone killings have nothing to do with this and is off topic. You can't buy those drones at WalMart or Elk River Guns, can you?

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Scott Wedel 1 year, 5 months ago

How more people would be alive today in the whole wide world if there were no guns? Hundreds.

The Boston bombing is tragic, but on that day in the US, more people died and were injured from guns than the Boston Bombing.

I'll grant you that guns can be fun and for many that enjoyment outweighs the damage being done by guns by others. But please don't pretend that a society with widely owned guns is a safer society.

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Brian Kotowski 1 year, 5 months ago

Interesting. Chinese social media with perspectives on the merits of a police state v. an open society.

"Chinese Web users seemed to draw two general conclusions: that China would be more effective at preventing a Boston-style attack, but that the U.S. is better equipped to respond to and cope such an event. They portrayed China as a formidable security state that privileges safety and secrecy, but the U.S. as a place where officials, police and citizens work together in harmony and cooperation." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/16/china-sees-the-best-and-worst-of-america-in-boston-bombing/

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mark hartless 1 year, 5 months ago

Yes, something is a big joke to me.

But it is not a bombing that's the joke, it's YOU.

Debating whether or not your opinions can override my rights is a huge joke to me.

You, and people who think LIKE you will always be a joke to me, no matter who or how many people are killed by pressure-cookers.

Nor will I EVER give credence or heed to ANY of the stupid rules and regulations you "Chiucken Littles" try to foist on me.

Even if one of the maimed or murdered is me, it would not change the value I place on individual libirties or the opinion I have that you are indeed a joke to me... and to a whole bunch of other people...

Patriots on one end of the spectrum, and the people who shoot innocents, fly planes into buildings, blow up pressure cookers, etc on the other end of the spectrum... You are a big joke to ALL OF US.

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rhys jones 1 year, 5 months ago

I think "the spectrum" is a loop like the colors of the rainbow, and one end is perilously close to the other.

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Mike Isaac 1 year, 5 months ago

I would not support any form of meaningful "Pressure Cooker Control" this was a false flag and their have already began their Narative back in Mass. The Political Ruling Class in Lexington Mass has pulled the permit that was secured by Steve Redfern of Gun Rights Across America due to this False Flag in Boston. And you guys just thought it was just about the 2nd Amendment, why stop their this a full blown assault on the 1st Amendment. But according to Steven Rhodes founder of Oath Keeper they will still gather on the Green in Lexington anyway. Yes that is right they will engage in "Civil Disobedience" and Question Authority by exercising their 1st Amendment Rights. This is what it has come down to people so WAKE UP PEOPLE This is about our Freedom not some stupid Left VS Right argument plus you gun grabbers are out numbered by 2 to 1. BTW this thing has blown wide open. Obama's Seals are busted. http://www.infowars.com/boston-bombing-culprits-found/

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Scott Wedel 1 year, 5 months ago

So the public is being told "WAKE UP PEOPLE" by someone that says "Obama's Seals are busted" (planting the bombs).

Yeah, the public will listen to you.

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Mike Isaac 1 year, 5 months ago

So Scott it don't look to good for your pal Obama are you trying to say that he or his people working for him are above the law?? I bet you are one of those that would be singing a different song if Obama was a Republican. You would want him in jail.

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Scott Wedel 1 year, 5 months ago

No, I am saying that claiming that people working for Obama set the bombs is stupid.

I don't know why you want people to wake up to learn that you post stuff like that.

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Mike Isaac 1 year, 5 months ago

Scott it looks like a inside job just look at the photo s on 4 chan. Not all of us buy every lie the establishment tells us and yes I feel it is very important to get the truth out. If 10 of the simple minded fools out there laugh at me but I get 1 of those 10 to see the truth it is well worth my time.

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john bailey 1 year, 5 months ago

carp, lively discussion today. but I had to go to work. why? because someone had to. LOL so round up the sheeple and put em in a pen. you people , wow just wow. hey matt , you gonna swallow that nasty kielbasa already, that things gotta be freeking nasty after all this time...just so horrible you guys would lay down like this ,baaaaaa,, baaaaaaa, ~;0) Canada is looking for more sheep go join their flock........hey I got an idea lets build America up instead of tearing her down, knuckle heads.....

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Brian Kotowski 1 year, 5 months ago

Let this be a lesson to you, kids: meth and blogging don't mix.

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mark hartless 1 year, 5 months ago

You know, Rhys... you might be right.

There were certainly some who called the patriots "traitors" back in the 1770's.

"Traitors" being the 18th century equivilent of "terrorist".

The only word more convoluted and mis-applied in todays news spin than the word "Terrirism" is the word "hero", which is routinely attached to anyone and everyone who does nothing more than would have been expected of ANY honorable man less than a century ago.

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Mike Isaac 1 year, 5 months ago

I know people here in Steamboat love to make fun of Californians and Texans so here is a news clip with 4 short videos that will make you laugh. http://www.infowars.com/californians-sign-petition-to-ban-and-confiscate-firearms/

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cindy constantine 1 year, 5 months ago

Tom--Guess poor "Scotty" had a senior moment forgetting about the OK City bombing as one of many examples where guns were not the "culprit". Once again, Scott, crazy is crazy and evil is evil..........sad but true.

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rhys jones 1 year, 5 months ago

I see the word "evil" bandied about freely herein, and it bothers me. I don't think people are inherently evil, but circumstances may drive them to desperate actions. Everybody has a breaking point (some before others, obviously) walk a mile in my moccasins; we all have a song to sing. Even a crook will help you, give him the chance.

True evil is stealing from the people, from under your cloud of authority. Sending your subjects to their deaths, for your own gain. These recent mass murderers don't kill near as many Americans as our own "government"!!

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jerry carlton 1 year, 5 months ago

Rhys I agree with your entire post except the part about mans nature not being evil.. How about a "sinful" nature ?

The Nuggets definitely did not look overpowering but they got the job done and what a finish! Rockies won yesterday but lost today in the top of the ninth. Had led entire game and pitching failed them in the top of ninth. Will be interesting to see how they fare with Atlanta although supposed to snow in Denver tomorrow night. Lakers got spanked today!

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mark hartless 1 year, 5 months ago

I have heard so much nonsense about how hard times cause people who are "down on their luck" to do bad things.

It really annoys me to hear that excuse.

There were plenty of people who grew up during the Great Depression who didn't steal or commit any criminal acts; even though they were hungry, a sensation most people today are completely un-famillir with.

There were plenty of people during this most recent "economic downturn" who did the RIGHT thing... they kept paying their mortgage while watching their neighbors weasel-out of their obligations; they refused handouts while watching others line up for all the "programs".

"True Evil" includes not just those things we see others do, but those things we do ourselves. Many such acts of evil are, because of todays laws, perfectly legal, but evil, sinful, or wrong nonetheless.

Far too many of us readily see "evil" or "sin" in others while habitually excusing our own.

Lest Rhys or anyone else tries to tell us there is "no such thing as sin" just respond by holding up your car keys and asking that person: "if there is no such thing as sin, what are theese for?"

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