David Ihde: Wrong points


Gary, I appreciate your efforts to demonstrate here in Steamboat for the Occupy Wall Street movement (“Gary R. Burman: Occupy Steamboat,” Wednesday’s Steamboat Today), but you could not be more wrong on a number of points. First, we are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We do, however, have democratic principles. It is the people of this country who think like you that we are or are supposed to be a democracy that has gotten this country into the mess we are in today. By that, I mean we have allowed the federal government to step way out of its bounds of the 18 enumerated powers that have led to “big government,” which in turn leads to the very corruption you allude to by way of doing things it has no business being involved in. The departments of Education and Energy are prime examples. If we would stand our ground and force the government back into its constitutional bounds, there would not be all the money flowing to these special-interest groups and power brokers that corrupt the system. Therefore, the government would be returned to the people by way of the states and local governments for which the Constitution was designed and for which the people could keep a better eye on. And while I detest big money in politics as you do, the alternative is even worse, and that is why I believe the Supreme Court got it right on the question of corporate and union donations. As Chief Justice Roberts said, the government has no business regulating political speech no matter where it is coming from. Why? Because it would be like the wolf guarding the henhouse. The answer here is to unshackle our limitations to the process and make it all transparent as you mentioned. That part we agree on. You are also wrong that campaign funds need to be capped with every candidate having the same. Sorry, but money flows to the candidate with the best ideas, which is part of the democratic process, and capping them does nothing to stop the corruption that may come along for the ride. That will just drive it underground and destroy any chance at the transparency you desire.

David Ihde

Steamboat Springs


HowardRoark 5 years, 6 months ago

Money does not go to the candidate with the best ideas of the people, but you are correct in your statement that the most money does go to the candidates with the best ideas for the corporate elites. The problem is in front of your face, yet you do not see it. End the FED. Here is a short video which is entertaining and informative. Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5T...


rhys jones 5 years, 6 months ago

Good luck with that. The FED is firmly entrenched, their tentacles many and long, immune to even our highest law. They meet in secret, answer to nobody, and serve only their and their member banks financial interests -- NOT ours. Watch the rats scurry, as the boat goes down.

That IS a cute and informative video, but many of our conservative brethren have little patience for cartoons. Their loss.


sledneck 5 years, 6 months ago

David is, of course, exactly right about our representative republic. We are supposed to be "A nation of laws, not a nation of men".

If a man leaves cheese on the floor overnight who is to blame for its' disappearance; the mouse, or the man??? So who is more copable for the Wall St. bail-outs; those who took the bail-out cheese that was offered (in some cases FORCED on) them, or those who gave them the money?????

And how could a gubbamint of proper constitutional size and scope ever even hope to swing the volume of money witnessed in the Wall St. bail-out fiasco, or the transfer of dollars out of the american peoples' bank to untold locations around the world?? It, of course, could not!

And what political party/ philosophy has promoted endless and boundless government expansion for decades? Primarily the same one seen today in the Wall st. protesters.

The most telling aspect of the protesters is their unwillingness to acknowledge governments' role in the bail-outs they oppose. More to the point, I do not believe they oppose unconstitutional wealth transfer. They seem only opposed to the fact that THEY were not the recipients.

"It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: The conversion of law into an instrument of plunder."


David Ihde 5 years, 6 months ago

@ HowardRoark. Which part of the Federal Government is outside it's constitutional bounds did you not get? The Fed is unconstitutional and should be banned as you suggest, but so is 95% of what the Federal Government does and that is what is attracting all the money influence. Banning the money does nothing about the corruption. It just drives it underground making it more problematic. What should be banned is what the Federal Government got itself involved in that they have no business being involved in and for that you can blame the misguided idea that we are a democracy instead of a republic. Alot of that is coming from our public schools that do not teach the constitution anymore and whose advocates believe the Federal Government should be taking care of the people with cradle to the grave benefits. And yes, money does flow to the candidates with the best ideas or perceived better ideas. You may think otherwise, or I may think otherwise about whether they are better ideas, but I never said it went to the candidates with better ideas for the corporate elites. Corporate money would not be there to influence if the Federal Government were not there for the taking, and that again is the fault of the people for letting and asking the Federal Government to start doing things they should not be doing, like healthcare and policing the world. You can also blame the courts for allowing this as well. Big Government comes replete with all kinds of goodies, mostly bad! That is why the constitution divided power down to the states and the people. Government needs to compete like a business does for better ideas and better government and any corrupted influence can be better met head on by the people keeping a better eye on government or by voting with their feet if necessary. Can't do that with centralized power.


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