Rocky Mountain Remedies co-owner Kevin Fisher pumps flood water Thursday from around the building that houses one of his business’s operations on 13th Street.

Photo by Matt Stensland

Rocky Mountain Remedies co-owner Kevin Fisher pumps flood water Thursday from around the building that houses one of his business’s operations on 13th Street.

Steamboat businesses flood as storms, snowmelt keep coming

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Mountain Mattress and Furniture employee Chris Cole waits for his boss Thursday in front of the business's flooded warehouse on 13th Street.

— Snowmelt and rain have taken their toll on at least a couple of business owners, as they watched water soil their mattresses and threaten their marijuana crops this week.

“We lost all of our mattresses” except two, Harris Greene said. “It’s probably close to $15,000.”

Greene owns Mountain Mattress and Furniture, which stores its mattresses in a mixed-use building at 2005 13th St. On Thursday morning, water once again had flooded the property. The flooding started Monday night and has continued after snowmelt and rain and snow showers this week.

At the same building, the water threatened a marijuana growing operation for Rocky Mountain Remedies. It is estimated that water got as high as 10 inches inside the building because water wasn’t draining quickly enough through a culvert close by.

“We thought we had a total loss the other night, and five, six hours of work helped save it,” said Kevin Fisher, co-owner of Rocky Mountain Remedies.

With rain in the forecast through Monday, property owners and officials across the county are closely monitoring the rising water levels and saturated soils.

River Road along the Yampa River south of downtown is expected to be closed through at least the weekend as workers continue to monitor the road and remove large boulders from a cliff. The road was closed shortly after rocks were reported on the road Tuesday night.

Public Works engineer Ben Beall said a geotechnical engineer had visited the site and advised the city what rocks to pull down. Beall said the situation would be evaluated again once the rocks are removed.

“Due to the weather expected over the weekend and the snowmelt flowing down the slope, the city will keep the road closed until it is evident that the slope has stabilized and all debris has been cleared from the roadway,” a city news release stated.

The city asks that drivers, cyclists and pedestrians respect the road closure along River Road because of the presence of heavy equipment and the potential for instability.

Routt County Road and Bridge Director Paul Draper said workers are continuing to address high water threatening county roads. Draper said the agency is dealing with “low water” flows from rain and low-elevation snowmelt that are inundating the culvert system. The system is designed to handle water flows that occur every 20 years, on average.

Looking at the weather Thursday, Draper called it the calm before the storm.

“We anticipate another busy day,” he said.

In the coming weeks, Draper expects that the Road and Bridge Department also will be dealing with the “high water” flows resulting from snowmelt at higher elevations that feed through rivers and underneath bridges.

A stream flow monitoring station on the Yampa River downtown was reporting flows of more than 1,400 cubic feet per second Thursday. That’s more than double the 101-year median for the date.

“It’s going to be a pretty significant runoff,” Draper said.

Business owners Greene and Fisher said they think their flooding problems likely will be resolved by the time the high water becomes an issue. By then, the snow likely will have melted from neighboring hillsides, and they hope the ground will be less saturated.

“Once the hillside is dry, it’s done,” Fisher said.

Until then, employees of the two businesses are taking turns monitoring pumps and squeegeeing the floors.

Assistant City Street Superintendent Ron Berig said the city helped early on by delivering sand and sandbags.

Berig said he also rented a pump to quickly lower the water enough so the culverts could be inspected. The city is limited in what it can do because the flooding is affecting a private development.

“I pumped it down the first day just to give them a head start,” Berig said. “We feel confident that the culverts are clear and running well.”

Greene and Fisher said they think the culvert running underneath 13th Street that provides relief to their businesses is too small.

“That’s up for debate,” Berig said.

To reach Matt Stensland, call 970-871-4247 or email mstensland@SteamboatToday.com

Comments

John St Pierre 3 years, 8 months ago

Is marijuana crops covered by flood insurance????

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1999 3 years, 8 months ago

MORE STORIES ABOUT POT!!!

FOR GOD SAKE........THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

Pilot- Another front page news story with cannabis somewhere in the plot?

Just when I thought you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and TOTALLY redeem yourself!!!

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pitpoodle 3 years, 8 months ago

The snow hasn't even started to melt at full force, yet. There are good reasons for this particular flooding and damage to this particular building. I blame the City. In particular, the Public Works Department and it's shortsightedness. 1. The City approved the undersized culverts for the subdivision in the first place and 2. would not allow the owner/builder of the pictured property to raise the building envelope up two feet as he requested 3. the City revamped the snow storage area (above the site) that caused even more snow to melt into the small sized culverts. I hope the owners can get restitution for the City's mistakes. I doubt it. What will the City do to correct this situation? They'll probably try to pass a SBS property tax to cover the expense. I wouldn't doubt it.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

And the best part of the whole article is the last three lines;


“I pumped it down the first day just to give them a head start,” Berig said. “We feel confident that the culverts are clear and running well.”

Greene and Fisher said they think the culvert running underneath 13th Street that provides relief to their businesses is too small.

“That’s up for debate,” Berig said.


Up for debate? Is that a fact? I happened to drive by that location this morning and I can assure you that whatever culvert is under that road...(the one that's supposed to be "...clear and running well..." and draining the 6 or so inches of water that was covering that property @ 7:30am) ...is absolutely not doing it's job well enough. Even if it is doing it's very best and even if there are no obstructions at the mouth of the culvert, it's obviously not doing enough. Whoever had to rent that giant pump and stretch three 4" hoses across 13th street has every bit of my sympathy this morning because I guarantee that they're not having a good day so far. Especially after having that last little amount of precipitation we picked up last night to deal with too.

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TWill 3 years, 8 months ago

MMJ-

Are you Lloyd Christmas or Harry Dunn? Because you and your chronies in many of these posts sound a lot like "Dumb & Dumber". (sorry I couldn't resist...)

It is uncanny that we do have weed as a front page subject AGAIN, though. Isn't it?

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

And whatever happened to the guy that's supposed to say,

"Hey! That entire area of 13th street floods EVERY single year. Maybe it would behoove us to take that into extra special consideration, since people don't normally like their buildings full of water, and all that.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

TWill-

That was the precisely vague reference I was making. I wasn't sure anyone would pick up on it right away. Thanks for not resisting. And I'm more like their pet bird Petey.

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TWill 3 years, 8 months ago

"How'd Petey die?"

"His head fell off"

"Yeah, he was getting pretty old"

I'll bet there's as much commentary quoting that movie as there'd be continuing to beat this dead horse we call MMJ.

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JLM 3 years, 8 months ago

Here's some free engineering -- go put in some additional culverts side by side w/ the existing culverts. Use the same size culverts and put one new one on each side of the existing one.

I will waive my engineering fee.

Here's some additional engineering advice --- always, always, always allow buildings to be elevated in flood prone areas. It improves drainage and it prevents flooding and it costs the City nothing.

I will again waive my engineering fee.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

JLM-

You're the guy I was talking about in my 8:42am post.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

And breaking side note news.....

We're getting a DAIRY QUEEN?!?!? Read it straight from the job ads this morning;

"Steamboat Dairy Queen seeking assistant manager to assist in daily operations including customer service, inventory, hiring, and training. Email ">ssdq80487@gmail.com."

SWEET!!!

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Scott Wedel 3 years, 8 months ago

How was it through last night's passing thunderstorm?

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S_G30 3 years, 8 months ago

“I pumped it down the first day just to give them a head start,” Berig said. “We feel confident that the culverts are clear and running well.”

UM...What?

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kevin fisher 3 years, 8 months ago

Firstly, I asked the paper specifically not to highlight the "pot" angle when they were out shooting for the story yesterday. We three MMC's in Steamboat have heard and sympathize with those in our community who wish not to have MMJ rammed down their throats on the front page of the Pilot. You will not again see a cover page highlighting a pic of cannabis with our cooperation.

Now, so far as the flooding goes: There are a great many issues @ the city that this situation has brought to light. True, Ron has been good about talking with us and getting sand + bags over to the units. However, how does a municipality with three major creeks and one river flowing within its limits not own a quality pump?

But, the spotlight should be on the engineering of the drainage over there. All run-off from 13th st is carried by the two roadside culverts. This works well enough on the Lincoln side of the road where the flow has a straight shot, while our side must "T" across through an undersized culvert and incorporates flow from the opposing direction at that junction. Just stupid. Not to mention the fact that ALL of the water then drains onto a private party "wetland" where it must again pass into an undersized culvert and then, and this is the best part, dumps under the RR tracks and into the Yampa through a culvert which FACES UPSTREAM! Yes , the Yampa literally pushes into the culvert and I would say @ flows above 2000cfs would bury the exit and likely provide enough back-pressure to prevent any water from draining. Dumb.

Oh well, I guess us "lazy stoners" will just have to keep working 'round-the-clock for the next week as the wether does not look like it will cooperate.

Kevin Fisher

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

Mr. Fisher-

If desired, this "lazy stoner" would be more than happy to volunteer my off days to lend an able helping hand. Today through Sunday I have off from my regular job and it would be my pleasure to help you out if you want any help.

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Scott Wedel 3 years, 8 months ago

Well, isn't Mr Fisher pictured wearing hemp clothing and carrying a gigantic bong?

And apparently this area did not flood until RMR moved in. Anyone check for increased humidity levels and ground saturation caused by their grow operations?

^sarcasm^

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SMRFF 3 years, 8 months ago

These floods are clearly God's way of punishing the heathens for infiltrating Routt County's youth with this horribly poisonous plant.

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rhys jones 3 years, 8 months ago

Oh no, this is real. First Obama, then mmj, and we know where this will end: 12/21/12, when Sol, Luna, and Terra will align with the black hole at the center of the galaxy, the end of the Mayan calendar, and Earth, such as we know it. Untold horrors, fire and brimstone, the coming of something big. This happens every 26,000 years or so (subject to accurate astronomical correction; we're using very round numbers, for the sake of this discussion). The whole Earth may flop on its side; who knows. 'Til then, things will just get worse, building to a crescendo. This is just the start, mark my word.

Cheerio!!

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

And, obviously, God must have just forgotten that there were a couple mattresses in the vicinity. He must have been so peeved about what mankind has done with one of His plants that the mattresses just skipped His mind.

That must have been what Gomorrah felt like.

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SMRFF 3 years, 8 months ago

How are we even going to make it to December 2012 with all of this MMJ floating around? YIKES!

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Bill Dalzell 3 years, 8 months ago

Definitely agree with you on this one Kevin. Its funny how the city makes you jump through hoops on some stuff and then they show such a lack of foresight with their own issues. They put in a foot bridge by Butcherknife completely below the flood plain. Guess what?, it causes flooding. They are so strict where you can build and what you can do in a flood zone, but don't seem to feel they have much accountability on their end. Classic quote by Berig.

BTW, my post the other day was in no way against you guys, just the Pilot's sensationalistic covers. Actually hoping it will take some heat off of you. Good luck out there. Hope things worked out with your inventory.

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Scott Wedel 3 years, 8 months ago

Mattresses are used by unmarried people and gays to have immoral sex. So mattresses and pot was getting rid of two sins with one little flood.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm just glad that the children don't have to be exposed to all of those dirty mattresses on the front page of the paper.

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Scott Wedel 3 years, 8 months ago

Or maybe it is just another conspiracy to give them more free publicity and promote their business.

If Mr Fisher did not want the pot angle in the newspaper then why did he go outside with a pump where he could be photographed? If he did not want the pot angle in the newspaper why did he make informative comments on why that area has a flooding problem?

And why does he happen to wear clothes that look like they were made of hemp and is carrying the pump in a way that is going to remind everyone of a giant bong?

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pitpoodle 3 years, 8 months ago

Hey, the City allowed the subdivision, allowed the drainage, approved the culvert size, revamped their snow storage to increase the water flow to the same culverts, and the owner did what he was told had to be done to build his building (or no C.O.). Clearly the City's failure. Their response to the culvert being too small? "That’s up for debate,” Berig said.

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exduffer 3 years, 8 months ago

Where will RMR get mattresses to stuff all their cash under?

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kathy foos 3 years, 8 months ago

Thats is such a stupid comment Scott,Im suprised at you.Cant a guy work outside his business in a flood situation without you wanting it to be a photo experience for MMJ?Are you pushing decency a bit too far?I know I dont have much room to talk with my comments lacking much and express too much at times,but are you upset because MMJ isnt top story today when it had the chance to be?Remember its just a plant?A plant for sick people.Nothing to do with photography.If people need to expose MMJ further ,maybe just leave out the MMJ patients(they have all of the law they need already)This man is in business and deserves normal privacy, respect.Would you demand that the owners of the ski lift be on hand to get photographed last week as thier maintinance workers were hurt and in the news?Maybe he is tired of the attention,has enough business and its just another day at work in Routt county?No drama except the flood waters that he will be working on.Dont be mad at me,thats just how I see it and think you are a very intelligent guy,enjoy reading your stuff,but that was not nice.Have a good night.(oh....exduffer you are mean too!)

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Scott Wedel 3 years, 8 months ago

Kathy Foos, Sorry for failing to put "^sarcasm^" after my last post. Apparently you thought I was serious and did not notice that I was being sarcastic.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

Kathy-

Great googly-moogly! Simmer down now.

And what was so mean about what exduffer said? I thought it was kinda funny, but definitely not serious.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

I have to hand it to the Pilot on this one.

I woke up to discover that the Pilot had shared this flooding story with 9News down in Denver. There was only a brief mention of the flooding, and how much trouble it's been causing everyone, and messed up some of the roads are, and they even showed the picture from this article....

....and they even managed to keep cannabis out of it. I'm halfway impressed.

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freerider 3 years, 8 months ago

Kathy

stay away from there , if you get wet you will melt

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boater1 3 years, 8 months ago

DQ is going into old Village Inn location along w/ Orange Julius

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exduffer 3 years, 8 months ago

Dunkin Donuts, please, please please join the cause. We,t hungry zombie, MMJ patients need a place to hang out.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

Really? Is that true about Orange Julius? Honestly, the old Village Inn spot?

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

IHOP, Waffle House, etc.... we need a 24hr joint(no pun intended).

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exduffer 3 years, 8 months ago

mmmm, fried chicken and waffles on a cold rainy day. Brings back memories if I could just remember .

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

Seriously! Who wouldn't want to go lounge out at the local IHOP for an hour or two while the weather did its thing?

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Clearsky 3 years, 8 months ago

Yes the city failed to account for Global Warming in their requirements for the increased rate of snow melt and the resulting flooding that occurs because some people refuse to see that it is happening. What a total laugh! What irony! HAhahahahah.

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 8 months ago

And here comes Clearsky with the..., "Oh no, the sky is falling and it's all global warming's fault. Repent from the fossil-fueled error of your ways and be saved from rising flood waters!" ....speech.

We got it. Oceans rising. Ice caps melting. Poles shifting. Climate changing.... We got it.

Here's what the earth warrior forgot to mention....

If cannabis(hemp) replaced trees as our source for paper, we could cut back on the space set aside for paper production by 75%. Not to mention the subsequent carbon sequestration that would result from the repetitiveness of the 4 month harvest cycle of cannabis(hemp), in relation to the 20 YEAR life-cycle of your average paper tree.

All of that is aside from the fact that cannabis(hemp) has 10's of thousands of other uses in our day to day lives.

http://hemporganic.com/whyhemp.html

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