John R. Sharp: Why I don't prescribe marijuana

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— I read with interest your story about the Steamboat mom who is treating her 13-year-old son’s autism with marijuana (“An alternative treatment,” Oct. 31, 2010). The use of cannabis for treating patients is not new, and U.S. physicians prescribed it until the 1930s when marijuana was classified as a high abuse-potential drug. In 1974, marijuana was placed in the Schedule I (illegal) category of dangerous drugs. However, public referendum balloting allows for a medical prescription use of marijuana in 16 states.

So why does traditional Western medicine not prescribe marijuana for patients like this unfortunate child in your newspaper article? Since I have declined requests to write a marijuana prescription, I would like to answer that question for your readers.

The science of traditional medical practice is based on randomized, double-blinded, controlled clinical trials and there have not been any such trials with marijuana. There are very small case studies that show more marijuana benefit than there is, because of small study size, bias within the studies because of confounding variables including co-morbid disease and tobacco and alcohol use as well as the bias of political agendas concerning legalization.

Marijuana is effective in lowering intra-ocular pressure in glaucoma patients, but it takes smoking a dozen joints a day to be as efficacious as drugs that already are available. There is no evidence that marijuana is more efficacious than other available prescription medications on neuropathic pain, chronic wasting and nausea with chemotherapy. There is no evidence that autism is effectively treated with marijuana. Anecdotal stories of individual case effectiveness are not accurate measures of a medication’s safety or effectiveness.

On the other hand, marijuana has well-documented abuse and dependence risks: 10 percent of regular users become addicted, compared to 15 percent with alcohol and 26 percent for opiate drugs. Moreover, just as many fatal accidents are marijuana related as alcohol related. Marijuana increases heart rate, increases pre-term miscarriages, and the risk of a heart attack is five times greater in the hour after smoking a joint.

In 2010, the Yampa Valley Medical Center emergency room has seen an epidemic of abdominal pain and cyclical vomiting in young people using marijuana. Clinical studies of the use of marijuana in this cyclical vomiting condition show that marijuana use actually aggravates the condition and produces a cycle of more marijuana producing more vomiting. Even attempts to wean off the marijuana produce a temporary increase in vomiting. Treatment begins with absolute cannabis avoidance.

When Coloradans approved Amend­­­­ment 20 in 2000 for the use of medical marijuana, a small-scale enterprise was envisioned, not the vast entrepreneurial enterprise that confronts us. Only 3 percent of medical marijuana users are people with cancer, and only 1 percent have HIV/AIDS. Ninety percent have “severe chronic pain.” Seventy percent of the 70,000 cards are issued to males between the ages of 24 and 34. About 55,000 of the cards issued are written by 15 physicians, and of these, five have been disciplined by the Colorado Medical Practice Board.

Marijuana is not subject to clinical safety and purity analyses. There is no standardized dosage. There is no post-marketing surveillance to assess adverse reactions. This lack of safety information and proof of efficacy opens the physician to negligence when he/she prescribes this drug for a patient who has an adverse outcome. I expect we will see malpractice suits brought by a patient injured from their own personal use of “prescribed” marijuana or by a person injured as a result of a patient’s use of prescribed marijuana.

The vast majority of physicians will not prescribe marijuana. The current situation in our state is socio-political, not a medical debate, and these tactical maneuvers are designed to legalize the drug. To expect your medical community to “step to the plate” in this issue is a bit naive in light of our Hippocratic oath to “above all do no harm.” Please leave me and my colleagues out of it.

Reference: Newsletter of the Colorado Physician’s Health Program (CPHP) and comments by Doris C. Gundersen, M.D., Medical Director of CPHP., Volume 9, Issue 1, Summer 2010.

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Your info comes from US govt. statistics and we are suppose to belive that?

I have smoked MMJ for 26 years and never once did i VOMITING OR HAVE ABDOMINAL PAIN. WHAT BS

SCARE TACTIC! BEWARE!

DOCS PRESCRIBE PAIN MEDS CAUSE THEY PROFIT FROM THEM!!!

SCARE TACTIC SCARE TACTIC!

MARIJUAN WAS NOT MADE ILLEGAL IN 1937 BASED ON ANY MEDICAL FINDINGS OR STUDIES! US GOVT ONLY STUDYS NEGATIVE EFFECTS AND NOTHING ELSE!

WE CAN FIND OTHER DOCTORS TO SAY THIS IS ALL A LIE!

SCARE TACTIC!

Mr. Sharp, why does the former head of MMJ research at the university of MISSISSIPPI (federally funded for study of negative use only and all findings for its study) say that MMJ should be LEGALIZED????

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Marijuana was made illegal in 1937 cause of a handfull of men who were racist!

Ronald Reagan said in 1980 "i have absoute PROOF that smoking 1 marijuana joint is as bad on the brain and being on Bakini Island during a NUCLEAR BOMB TEST"

Mr. Sharp Please dont insult us!!

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Arizona joins the list of new Medical Marijuana states. Not cause the were all vomiting.

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blue_spruce 4 years, 1 month ago

"...Moreover, just as many fatal accidents are marijuana related as alcohol related..." really? that sounds wrong...

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Scott Wedel 4 years, 1 month ago

"10 percent of regular users become addicted, compared to 15 percent with alcohol and 26 percent for opiate drugs"

Physical addiction with withdraw symptoms are well documented for alcohol, nicotine and opiates. I cannot find even one of the anti-mj sites that claim mj is physically addictive. To say that mj is addictive requires the definition that there is a compulsion to use it. Just like some people say there are exercise addicts that show all the signs of having a compulsion to exercise.

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Droabinal? Marinol?

Pharmaceutical companies brandname for guess what??

In a 2002 review of medical literature, medical cannabis was shown to have established effects in the treatment of nausea, vomiting, premenstrual syndrome, unintentional weight loss, insomnia, and lack of appetite. Other "relatively well-confirmed" effects were in the treatment of "spasticity, painful conditions, especially neurogenic pain, movement disorders, asthma, [and] glaucoma".[6]

Preliminary findings indicate that cannabis-based drugs could prove useful in treating inflammatory bowel disease, migraines, fibromyalgia, and related conditions.[7]

Medical cannabis has also been found to relieve certain symptoms of multiple sclerosis[8] and spinal cord injuries[9][10][11] by exhibiting antispasmodic and muscle-relaxant properties as well as stimulating appetite.

Other studies have shown cannabis or cannabinoids may be useful in treating alcohol abuse,[12] amyotrophic lateral sclerosis,[13][14] collagen-induced arthritis,[15] asthma,[16] atherosclerosis,[17] bipolar disorder,[18][19] colorectal cancer,[20] depression,[21][22][23][24] dystonia,[25] epilepsy,[26][27] digestive diseases,[28] gliomas,[29][30] hepatitis C,[31] Huntington's disease,[32] leukemia,[33] skin tumors,[34] methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA),[35] Parkinson's disease,[36] pruritus,[37][38] posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD),[39] sickle-cell disease,[40] sleep apnea,[41] and anorexia nervosa.[42] Controlled research on treating Tourette syndrome with a synthetic version of tetrahydrocannabinol (brand name Marinol), the main psychoactive chemical found in cannabis, showed the patients taking Marinol had a beneficial response without serious adverse effects;[43][44] other studies have shown that cannabis "has no effects on tics and increases the individuals inner tension".[45] Case reports found that marijuana helped reduce tics, but validation of these results requires longer, controlled studies on larger samples.[46][47] Recent studies- wikipedia

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Research done by the Scripps Research Institute in California shows that the active ingredient in marijuana, THC, prevents the formation of deposits in the brain associated with Alzheimer's disease. THC was found to prevent an enzyme called acetylcholinesterase from accelerating the formation of "Alzheimer plaques" in the brain more effectively than commercially marketed drugs. THC is also more effective at blocking clumps of protein that can inhibit memory and cognition in Alzheimer’s patients, as reported in Molecular Pharmaceutics.- wikipedia

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Lung cancer and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease One of the surprising research results from the last decade has been the finding that smoking cannabis does not increase the risk of developing lung cancer or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) among people who do not smoke tobacco, and may indeed confer a mildly protective effect. Beginning in 2001, multiple research teams began to report results showing that smoking cannabis does not, by itself, increase the risk of lung cancer, and this result is now well-established. Many studies did report a strongly synergistic effect, however, between tobacco use and smoking cannabis such that tobacco smokers who also smoked cannabis dramatically increased their already very high risk of developing lung cancer or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease by as much as 300%. Some of these research results follow below: In 2006, Hashibe, Morgenstern, Cui, Tashkin, et al. presented the results from a study involving 2,240 subjects that showed non-tobacco users who smoked marijuana did not exhibit an increased incidence of lung cancer or head-and-neck malignancies. These results were supported even among very long-term, very heavy users of marijuana.[49] Tashkin, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years, said, "It's possible that tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in marijuana smoke may encourage apoptosis, or programmed cell death, causing cells to die off before they have a chance to undergo malignant transformation". He further commented that "We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use. What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."[unreliable medical source?][50][unreliable medical source?][51] Researchers from the University of British Columbia presented a study at the American Thoracic Society 2007 International Conference showing that smoking marijuana and tobacco together more than tripled the risk of developing COPD over just smoking tobacco alone.[unreliable medical source?][52] Similar findings were released in April 2009 by the Vancouver Burden of Obstructive Lung Disease Research Group. The study reported that smoking both tobacco and marijuana synergistically increased the risk of respiratory symptoms and COPD. Smoking only marijuana, however, was not associated with an increased risk of respiratory symptoms of COPD.[unreliable medical source?][53][54] In a related commentary, pulmonary researcher Donald Tashkin wrote, "…we can be close to concluding that marijuana smoking by itself does not lead to COPD".[55]

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

continued...... One of the principal constituents of cannabis, THC, has been found to reduce tumor growth in common lung cancer by 50 percent and to significantly reduce the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University, who tested the chemical in both in vitro lab studies and in mouse studies. The researchers suggest that THC might be used in a targeted fashion to treat lung cancer.

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Breast cancer According to a 2007 study at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute, cannabidiol (CBD) may stop breast cancer from spreading throughout the body.[57] These researchers believe their discovery may provide a non-toxic alternative to chemotherapy while achieving the same results minus the painful and unpleasant side effects. The research team says that CBD works by blocking the activity of a gene called Id-1, which is believed to be responsible for a process called metastasis, which is the aggressive spread of cancer cells away from the original tumor site.[57]

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

In the USA, the FDA has approved two cannabinoids for use as medical therapies: dronabinol (Marinol) and nabilone. These medicines are taken orally.

These medications are usually used when first line treatments for nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy fail to work. In extremely high doses and in rare cases "psychotomimetic" side effects are possible. The other commonly-used antiemetic drugs are not associated with these side effects.

The prescription drug Sativex, an extract of cannabis administered as a sublingual spray, has been approved in Canada for the adjunctive treatment (use along side other medicines) of both multiple sclerosis and cancer related pain.[87][88] This medication may be legally imported into the United Kingdom and Spain on prescription.[89] William Notcutt is one of the chief researchers that has developed Sativex, and he has been working with GW and founder Geoffrey Guy since the company's inception in 1998. Notcutt states that the use of MS as the disease to study "had everything to do with politics."[90]

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exduffer 4 years, 1 month ago

May, could, ah wikipedia the internet's favorite source of qualified facts.

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

looks like doctor vrs doctor here?

Or maybe a long time MMJ user would be the best form of info of what is going on with his/her body?? NOT a doctor who will give you his side of the story, to protect his WALLET and make drug companies HIGH on profits!

So DUFF Dr. Sharp info is a qualified fact? Thats funny why have we not seen this anywhere else?

CORPORATE GREED IS THE ONLY FACT HERE!!

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mmjPatient22 4 years, 1 month ago

I think that there's one critical piece of information that is lacking from the good doctor's explanation of why there have NEVER been allowed any full-on studies of our beloved cannabis plant, at least not to the degree that most pharmaceuticals go through. The reason that no one has ever gotten away with completing one of these studies is because our gestapo-esque style government doesn't legally allow anyone to conduct such studies. Think about it, how many doctors/scientists out there are going to be willing to jeopardize their careers/freedom by studying something that their government tells them will land them in jail? However, with the vastly fascinating amount of ill-fated side-effects that are being promised on every other pharmaceutical commercial on TV, how can any oath-sworn doctor these days recommend that any of their patients indulge in half of the crap that's out there today? I'll tell you how(and muck nailed it on the head)...money. For a great many doctors, their wallet comes before your health.

I sure would love to hear the good doctor explain the LD-50 of cannabis.

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

"There is no evidence that marijuana is more efficacious than other available prescription medications on neuropathic pain, chronic wasting and nausea with chemotherapy"

In the USA, the FDA has approved two cannabinoids for use as medical therapies: dronabinol (Marinol) and nabilone. These medicines are taken orally.

These medications are usually used when first line treatments for nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy fail to work. In extremely high doses and in rare cases "psychotomimetic" side effects are possible. The other commonly-used antiemetic drugs are not associated with these side effects

So real MMJ will increase vomiting and Pharmaceuticals that are copied and steal CANNABINOIDS from mmj IS BETTER? WTF!

Yea dont use natural drugs! Use chemicals INSTEAD?

MONEY HUNGRY FEAR MONGERING HYPOCRITES!!

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Steamboat Pilot,

WHERE IS THE JAIL REPORT!!! Dont protect the CSP!!

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1999 4 years, 1 month ago

comparing the dependency of MJ to say oxycotin and other prescription pain meds is ludricrous..... The FACT IS that prescription drugs(you know ...the ones you DO prescribe) account for FAR MORE dangerous addictions than MJ.

your lack of knowledge makes me suspect of you claim to be a doctor.

The claim about MJ causing more atomobile accidents than achohol is been proven wrong far too many times to even sits references here.

fine...you don't like to prescribe mj....don't.

but don't lie to support your position.

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hereandthere 4 years, 1 month ago

Pill pushers. Go get'em Muck.

Addictive? Vomiting? Just as many fatal accidents as alcohol? We would be glad to leave Doc Sharp and his colleagues out of it. But for some reason they want to keep putting their noses in our business. There is only one reason for pot being considered a schedule one substance, bigotry.

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mmjPatient22 4 years, 1 month ago

I'm of the belief that there's no truth like brutally honest truth. For those that are like-minded and look for the same kind(s) of information, enjoy:

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bcpow 4 years, 1 month ago

I was gonna ski today but feeling worked from the: tobacco I purchased at 7-11 and smoked and chewed last night, booze I purchased at central park liquor and consumed last night, Oxycontins prescribed from (DR.?) and took last night and Ambien prescribed from (see above) and took this morning to sleep. I need a cup of caffeine from Starbucks.

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1999 4 years, 1 month ago

the fact is....the FDA approval process relies SOLEY on DRUG COMPANY FUNDED clinical studies.

http://www.fda.gov/drugs/developmentapprovalprocess/default.htm

no independent trials no double blind trials.

DRUG COMPANY FUNDED CLINICAL trials.

these trials are completed by (wait for it.....) THE DRUG COMPANIES WHO FUND THEM!!!!

doctors are then given free trial drugs and receive kickbacks for prescribing these drugs.

WOW!!!!

No wonder our phamacuetical industry is a multi BILLION DOLLAR industry.

NO wonder they don't want MJ to take a slice of the BILLION DOLLAR pie!

a 2005 study showed that doctors write on avergae 13 prescriptions per year per american !!

again WOW!

Guess how much money the drug comapnys and the doctors stand to lose if MJ becomes mainstream.

theres the motivation folks!

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Fred Duckels 4 years, 1 month ago

Looks like all's well in the commune. If we had this much passion in more important matters we would have a budget suplus.

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Clearsky 4 years, 1 month ago

Vomiting from smoking pot? Are you sure you are a medical doctor? This is about the dumbest association to marijuana I have yet to see.

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freerider 4 years, 1 month ago

Hey Doc

I noticed you don't mention that your drugs kill over 150 thousand people a year

35 thousand a year bleed out and die from aspirin alone

Its impossible to get addicted to pot , there is no withdrawal from it period

LIAR , LIAR , LIAR , LIAR

So Doctor Sharp , why don't you do something about your drugs killing hundreds of thousands of people a year , you freaking hypocrite

Go back to the dark ages and sell your drugs and fear someplace else

And take Fred Ducky boy with you

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Scott Wedel 4 years, 1 month ago

Well, it does appear that some doctors have recently discovered a new symptom of chronic vomiting due to smoking pot as a young adult with daily heavy doses for several years. And now, some doctors claim it is an epidemic. This chronic vomiting was first discovered by doctors in Australia in 2004 and noticed in the USA in 2009.

Not at all clear why after 50 years of popular use of marijuana that suddenly there is a new harmful side effect.

I do not use mj so what appears to be the science does not matter to me. I think the science supports the view that mj is a mild intoxicant somewhat comparable to alcohol and is generally neither a destroyer or creator of the user's health. MJ users are not dying earlier than the general population, nor are they obviously living longer.

Given the real world effect of mj and the real world effect of criminalizing something that is so widely used, I think we are better off allowing it to be legal but regulated. I don't care if mmj is being recommended on weak medical evidence that it will help the claimed symptom. Colorado mmj laws provide a framework of regulated use under the guise of it being medical. It requires the user get a license to get mj and the seller can only sell to people with licenses.

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JJ Southard 4 years, 1 month ago

Well, Well, Well, Doctor Sharp.....prescribe any anti-depressants for people with digestive issues lately???.... I'd have to say that your medical skills are questionable at best. I was a patient of yours ONCE....maybe twice....regretfully. hmmmmmmm..... Now I see, you are one of the doctors with your head still in the sand.

Doctors do not face any sort of sanction for recommending this 100% safe medicine. Especially when it's grown organically, this medicine is proven safe and effective. Go ahead and ride the BS train all the way to your retirement. It makes no sense to be that dense.

People, don't let the white coats and the college degrees fool you.....it seems we have started to finally see through the poiliticians, when we will stand up to the old fart doctors, that probably care more about seeing the pharmaceutical reps in their short skirts, than how safe the medicinal samples are that the reps are dropping off. HA! People who seek the TRUTH are always wiser than the unteachable fools of yesteryear.

Have a good Holiday Season there Doc!....stuff your own stocking full of judgement, we all don't need any more than we already got. Please.

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tcb 4 years, 1 month ago

Hey, muck;

  YOU actually sold me on believing Dr. Sharp....yeah, YOU did.  Looking at the number of rambling posts you've put up on this over a substantial period of time convinces me that your 26 years of weed smoking has left you without any motivation.  Hey....that comes from burning up the "hippie lettuce", doesn't it?

 Nice to see a Doctor stepping forward and calling BS on all of this.  Wanna know why the DUID arrests are increasing in the Jail Report?  Ummmm....maybe it's cuz so many folks are now smoking mmj?  Smoke 'em if you got 'em, people, but you can't drive stoned...that's against the law.

 Thank you Dr. Sharp!  Oh, and thank YOU, muck.
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mmjPatient22 4 years, 1 month ago

Fred-

How many millions of dollars do you guesstimate are flushed down the tubes annually due to law enforcement futilely chasing down cannabis users? Maybe a budget re-configuration is what we're all really pushing for?

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mmjPatient22 4 years, 1 month ago

And "Dr." Sharp-

Please feel free to join the discussion at any point.

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Mike Heineke 4 years, 1 month ago

Hey Muckie Dude! Wow! You sure know a lot of neat stuff about mmj. Bet you raided the chip ailse before you sat down for the day to conjure up all of this. Wow! How did you ever keep it all straight? Hop that your "medical" mj is still full enough to continue this week. You can weigh in on anything these days with such insightful and thouroughly enternaining words of wisdom. I'm blown away by the mere fact that you can remember things in such depth Muckie Dude. Hey, Stay away from the essentials at the grocery store on Monady and Tuesday so I can pick up a few things. I'm going to go over your blogs again, so i will need to stock up. Thanks Muck! You represent the Boat well. You've got my vote for whatever office you may campaign for in the future. Wow Dude! You are soo soo smart!

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freerider 4 years, 1 month ago

One thing these Bible beating doctors like to do is pass judgement and bad medicine

and sharky boy ...Muck is right ...maybe you should read the marijuana tax act for your self sometime to find out that marijuana is illegal because of a bunch of rich white racists that only wanted to protect corporate greed and profits

Don't shoot the messenger , if you remove your head from your back side you might learn something...

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freerider 4 years, 1 month ago

Hey Muck , I got ya beat I've been smokin for about 40 years ....I'm 55 and I look like I'm 10 to 15 years younger than my age

Hey Doc ya wanna know why I look and feel so great ...it's because I'm happy and I live a stress free life , no worries , and talk about great sex , hey a couple of hits and break out the massage oil and it's off to pure heaven on Earth just the way God wanted me to be happy ....hahahaha !!!!!

Hey Doc you ought to try it sometime , Jesus told me it's ok to be happy really really

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freerider 4 years, 1 month ago

Scott Wedel

you need to stay out of these discussions that you know nothing about

WTF why do you have to put your mullet into everything

Do you think that MJ smokers gives a crap about your opinion about something you read in a frekin story by the TRUSTY FEDS ......seriously man go away on this subject

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Scott Wedel 4 years, 1 month ago

Freerider, Because it is the majority like me that does not use mj, but does not think it is a scary drug that passed mmj laws and provides public support for those laws.

If you all think that the general public smokes pot regularly (as compared to having used it rarely) and thinks that mmj is a wonder drug then you are going to be in for a surprise. The mmh industry as a whole has been smart enough to not advertise mmj as a wonder drug because if they start running ads appearing to attract people to use mmj then you are going to regulations tighten up considerably. The public accepts that mmj is a way for 90% of mmj license holders to get high from pot and that is okay because the mmj license can be revoked if the "patient" is abusing it. It is one thing to allow existing pot users to get legal access to their vice of choice, but a whole different matter if you all start attracting nonusers via claims of it being a miracle drug.

And while it has not previously been practical to run a controlled study of mj vs other drugs or placebos, it is certainly possible to include questions on mj usage in these large health studies and then perform statistical analysis looking for connections. And mj comes up as a drug of very minor impact. The cigarette smoking pot users still gets lung disease, throat cancer and so at the same rates as cigarette smokers.

There are some that think marijuana is a perfect plant that has perfect effects upon the human body and so using pot is a religious experience. So be it. Just don't expect everyone to join your religion and don't make everything anyone says that doesn't agree with your marijuana beliefs into a religious war.

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Queenie 4 years, 1 month ago

wow...I agree with Scott.. "...using pot is a religious experience. So be it. Just don't expect everyone to join your religion and don't make everything anyone says that doesn't agree with your marijuana beliefs into a religious war."

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

Well i see finally some haters.

Shark i dont give 1 patooty what you do with your body. I dont care what you think. I dont care what you do. And most of all i dont care if you read my stuff or not, its your CHOICE!

AHHH CHOICE!

Funny word isint it. Kinda like being in a FREE world and having a CHOICE to decide what you want to do.

Shark look this up and let us educate you:

Harry J. Aslinger and his GORE files.

Get back to us and lets have a debate on WHO know what there are talking about!!

SUPPORTING CRIMINALIZATION OF MMJ IS SUPPORTING THE MOST RACIST ACT EVER SIGNED INTO CONGRESS AND MAD INTO LAW!

1937 GORE FILES AND HARRY J. ASLINGER IS WHY MARIJUANA IS ILLEGAL.

NOT CAUSE OF VOMITING NOT CAUSE OF GANGS NOT CAUSE OF VIOLENCE NOT CAUSE OF INABILITY TO TAX NOT CAUSE OF MEDICAL ISSUIES NOT CAUSE YOU WILL KILL NOT CAUSE YOU RAPE NOT CAUSE OF HEALTH ASPECTS NOT CAUSE OF COMMUINISM

GET YOUR FACTS!

"When darkies smoke MMJ, they think they are as good as white men"- HJA 1937 THAT IS WHY MMJ IS ILLEGAL!

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

HERE IS ANOTHER QUOTE:

"when white women smoke mmj, they want to have SEX with "N" (non-white people) and entertainers and such" - Harry J. Aslinger 1937

WORD FOR WORD

"MMJ is for degenerate races of the world" HJA 1937

"MMJ is used by 100,000 AFRICAN AMERICANS ( he used the n word) , MEXICANS, CHINESE only and should be outlawed all together" HJA 1937

Anyone wanna debate this? if not, GET OFF YOUR HORSE!!

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

1 guess to anyone who can tell me WHAT job Harry J. Aslinger had in 1932 and it when it ended?

Anyone but the PRO people. Please lets see if the NAY-SAYERS have a clue!!

ANYONE??

COME ON YOU WANNA BASH ME LETS SEE HOW SMART YOU ARE!!

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OnceLivedHere 4 years, 1 month ago

A doctor explains why he, an individual physician, has made a choice and they want to burn him at the stake. If they can generate this much energy and vitriolic over a single doctor's decision not to prescribe a substance, it's unlikely marijuana is their only problem. Is this fervor based on addiction, protection of their new industry, or a socialistic desire to silence anyone who might question their viewpoint? Clearly, we are seeing these posters try to weave marijuana into the same category as all their other social causes by ascribing prejudice and bigotry to anyone who might disagree with them. I had no idea that failure to prescribe a leafy green weed that doesn't even have quality control from the Food and Drug Administration makes you a bigot. These are the same people demanding complete disclosure on the nutritional value of a Big Mac. Just Wow.

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OnceLivedHere 4 years, 1 month ago

A doctor explains why he, an individual physician, has made a choice and they want to burn him at the stake. Is this fervor based on addiction, protection of their new industry, or a socialistic desire to silence anyone who might question their viewpoint? Clearly, we are seeing these posters try to weave marijuana into the same category as all their other social causes by ascribing prejudice and bigotry to anyone who might disagree with them. I had no idea that failure to prescribe a leafy green weed that doesn't even have quality control from the Food and Drug Administration makes you a bigot. These are the same people demanding complete disclosure on the nutritional value of a Big Mac. Just Wow.

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OnceLivedHere 4 years, 1 month ago

A doctor explains why he, an individual physician, has made a choice and they want to burn him at the stake. Clearly, we are seeing these posters try to weave marijuana into the same category as all their other social causes by ascribing prejudice and bigotry to anyone who might disagree with them. I had no idea that failure to prescribe a leafy green weed that doesn't even have quality control from the Food and Drug Administration makes you a bigot. These are the same people demanding complete disclosure on the nutritional value of a Big Mac. Just Wow.

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OnceLivedHere 4 years, 1 month ago

Sorry about the redundant posts, I got a server error on posting.

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upstream 4 years, 1 month ago

Muck- just a suggestion- step away from the issue for awhile. I really doubt that anyone is reading more than one or two words of your repetitious tirades at this point. There may be an interesting kernel in there somewhere, but who would know?

I know a whole host of health care practitioners who feel similarly to Dr Sharp- regardless of how they feel about the personal use of marijuana. There is nothing about the current use of MMJ that fits into the practice these folks were trained and licensed to engage in- plain and simple. The studies are not there, the regulation and oversite is not there and the training and education is not there- yet these folks are being asked (often in all caps) to use their licenses to formally prescribe this substance. Where is the sense in that? Perhaps a more sensible approach would be to create a MMJ practitioner profession as has happened with Reiki or homeopathy or herbology- then these specially trained MMJ practitioners could evaluate patients and make recommendations to treat based on their chosen area of expertise and Allopathic Doctors could be left out of the sh-tstorm.

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Scott Wedel 4 years, 1 month ago

Dr Sharp is free not to recommend mmj. It is disappointing that his article puts mj along with physically addictive drugs when mj is not a physically addictive drug. It is also disappointing that he mentions the latest horror consequence of using mmj -chronic vomiting.

By the level of bias present in his letter to the editor then he invited criticism.

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

But you read them upstream. Whatever.

ANSWER.......

Assistant Commisioner of Bureau of PROHIBITION 1929- 1930

He was out of a job in 1932 and decided to LIE about weed to get a job!

FACT!

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OnceLivedHere 4 years, 1 month ago

Scott, Dr. Sharp talked about his take on the topic and offered what he sees as material supporting his position. He didn't characterize users as dirt bags or subhumans who are a burden on society. That might have invited personal criticism. What is disappointing is that rather than offer data supporting prescriptions for medical marijuana, there was an instant attempt to attack him for disagreeing with the premise that it is only beneficial.

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Scott Wedel 4 years, 1 month ago

Once, No, he just compared marijuana to physically addictive drugs. And brought up chronic vomiting syndrome that appears to be so rare that the medical journal articles cites individual patients. Which is exactly what he criticized when noting the lack of evidence for mmj effectiveness.

It looks like he was intentionally misleading in order to make his case and invites comments on the hypocrisy of big pharma advocating prescribing drugs for uses not studied and approved and so on.

Of course most of what muck posts is muck.

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bud101 4 years, 1 month ago

this is crock of sh*t

"Clinical studies of the use of marijuana in this cyclical vomiting condition show that marijuana use actually aggravates the condition and produces a cycle of more marijuana producing more vomiting. Even attempts to wean off the marijuana produce a temporary increase in vomiting. Treatment begins with absolute cannabis avoidance."

true with the government laced versions of pot. in real life with properly grown pot, this is not true!

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seeuski 4 years, 1 month ago

Wow, so many part time MDs out there. Party on.

And for the record, I'll go with Dr. Sharp's data as I have personal experience with the heart rate and hyperventilation symptoms he described, and it was NOT Government laced stuff as it came from some of the best underground suppliers available at the time. You haven't seen anything until you have seen bales of Sinsamelia stacked 8' high. No, it definitely was not from any Government.

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bud101 4 years, 1 month ago

muck is a good guy. he has every right to bash someone who is bashing a legitimate medicine.

can we say, muck's emotional?

YES!

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bud101 4 years, 1 month ago

seeuski, good luck sticking your head in the mud.

anyone with an IQ > 0 can see that Dr. Sharp is the furthest thing from delivering an honest review of a medicine that is known for healing. Enjoy your Oxycontin, Wellbutrin, Xanax and all that other junk that has a longer list of dangers than pot will ever.

Pot does not make you sick. It gives you the munchies. Way different than a the pile of laced Sinsamilla from the government to spew lies.

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muck 4 years, 1 month ago

I can speak for alot of people in these post.

THIS AINT ABOUT POT! ITS ABOUT FREEDOM OF CHOICE! DEMOCRACY!

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brian ferguson 4 years, 1 month ago

Quiting smoking marajuana was the easiest thing I've ever done...now If I could just quit these evil cigs. Quit drinking too, about 6 years ago.

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Kerrie Cooper 4 years, 1 month ago

Yeah Dr. Sharp,

It was great to read your article and amazing to see the aftermath from what I believe are addicts desperately trying to justify their addictions. I have seen horrible effects from long-term use of mj and how people can say it isn't addictive (especially mentally) is beyond ridiculous. I have personally witnessed with very dear loved ones of mine that smoked mj long term (stomach & lung cancer ending in death at 36 yrs old), chronic depression resulting in the need of anti-depressants long after the mj smoking ceased, and totally psychotic episodes in another that was horrendous to witness. Dr. Sharp, thank you for having the courage to write what you did. The truth seems to brutally hurt many, but that is too bad---if they would stop being under the influence & face life to begin with, they wouldn't need mj.

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blue_spruce 4 years, 1 month ago

Fact: There is no convincing scientific evidence that marijuana causes psychological damage or mental illness in either teenagers or adults. Some marijuana users experience psychological distress following marijuana ingestion, which may include feelings of panic, anxiety, and paranoia. Such experiences can be frightening, but the effects are temporary.

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blue_spruce 4 years, 1 month ago

Fact: Most people who smoke marijuana smoke it only occasionally. A small minority of Americans - less than 1 percent - smoke marijuana on a daily basis. An even smaller minority develop a dependence on marijuana. Some people who smoke marijuana heavily and frequently stop without difficulty. Marijuana does not cause physical dependence. If people experience withdrawal symptoms at all, they are remarkably mild.

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blue_spruce 4 years, 1 month ago

Fact: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.

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trump_suit 4 years, 1 month ago

Lovestoread,

Tell us, was that relative also undergoing chemotherapy treatments and/or radiation. Having experienced the marvelous chtherapy drugs that saved my life (testicle Cancer) I can tell you from my experience that those drugs were a serious problem for me. I experienced depression, modd swings, vomiting, diareah, and constipation (yes both).

Seems awful self serving to blame the MJ for the side effects that ALL chemotherapy patients endure. Have you read the list of potential side effects for those drugs or for that matter any prescription drug.

In my case the need for sleeping medication lasted far longer than the entire course of the cancer treatment. There would be literally weeks on end where I simply could not sleep without them. Sound familiar, I am sure that the symptoms you describe are also listed on each and everyone of the chemo drugs that were administered.

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Kerrie Cooper 4 years, 1 month ago

I wish I could blame my uncle's death on chemotherapy, but he never had time to start it. He smoked mj everyday, all kinds (even from Africa), with me laughing at the time at his silliness while under the influence, but at 36 he began complaining of stomach pain. What we had hoped was only an ulcer, was actually a body covered in cancer, the doctors said starting from his lungs (devastating me to this day). . In all fairness, it's hard to say if it was from the mj or the pesticides & fungicides sprayed on it, that so few people realize is used (at least in northern CA.). As for the other two, one smoked mj for twenty years & when he finally stopped, suffered chronic depression leading to the need for anti-depressants, and the third individual who I loved with everything as well, had smoked mj from high school to the present, approx 20 + yrs, and would have crazy, erratic behavior & mood swings while under the influence creating an insane life for us (which too had to end years ago.) Marijuana is just as devastating as cocaine or alcohol, esp. when used on a daily basis. I know, I lived through it over & over again with abuse by family & friends with all three.

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mmjPatient22 4 years, 1 month ago

lovestoread- You seem to be using the ol' "guns kill people" mentality. You know, it's the gun's fault, not the person's fault. This is, of coarse, not true. But people still take up that stance on things they're not too fond of because it's much easier to blame an inanimate object, rather than hold a person responsible for their own actions/decisions. I'm not trying to be cold or callused towards your painful memories of loved ones, but you can't blame the substances, that they chose to abuse, for their lives being ruined. With enough determination, someone's life can be just as easily ended with many other things, besides guns. So, to get rid of the guns(or knives, brass knuckles and bazookas), is not to get rid of killing. How can you assume that, if cannabis/alcohol/cocaine had never existed(in your ideal world), that your loved ones wouldn't have found something else that could have just as easily ruined their lives?

And if cannabis is just as detrimental to people's health as alcohol and cocaine, then why has no one EVER overdosed on cannabis?

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hereandthere 4 years, 1 month ago

" if people are in so much pain they need drugs to live, then you are not living anymore, and should consider calling it a day." lovestoread Oct. 7.

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Kerrie Cooper 4 years ago

You are indeed correct hereandthere to my tough position I stated earlier. Without a doubt after all the pain & sadness I have gone through with loved ones choosing addiction over life, I really have come to the belief, that if you're unwilling to figure out why your soul is so sick, and you need drugs &/or alcohol to survive, then you're emotionally dead anyway, so why not take the physical journey as well & spare further grief to the your loved ones.....Addicts are so completely self serving & so destructive to themselves, and worse yet to those around them that a physical death is almost better for all. Brutal, cruel, harsh and sad as hell to say yes, but it is the truth. Life is too short and too precious to be wasted on those that have no respect or regard for it.

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

lovestoread-

The view must be pretty superb from atop your sparkling ivory tower, huh?

You're so blinded by your pain on the issue that you're losing track of the points you're trying to make. On one hand, you curse and damn our beloved cannabis plant for ruining the life of one of your loved ones, but on the other hand you're claiming that they weren't worthy of keeping their life. Just out of morbid curiosity, are you a "God" believer?

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

Boy, I sure love how quiet it gets in here sometimes.

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

lovestoread-

You give up on the conversation? Little bit too much truth for you? It's okay, you're not the first. You most definitely will not be the last.

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John Fielding 4 years ago

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 The good doctors' position is simply that of the conventional western medical establishment, a very Newtonian, mechanistic model that needs a pat chemical equation to be acceptable. The math has not been done for cannabis to that degree yet.

But lots of people feel better when they smoke it, in many ways. That's why it's called getting high. Nothing wrong with feeling better, and it sure shouldn't be a crime if the condition does not jeopardize the safety and welfare of others..

There are clearly many who take it seriously as medicine, and that should be respected. But that American icon, the stoner, must not be disregarded. Stereotypes exist because there is much truth represented by them.

And to argue that most of the mmj business is not for the purpose of recreational use is disingenuous. That does not make it wrong, only a convenient untruth. We are just not ready as a society to acknowledge the legitimacy of self prescribed mood altering drugs other than alcohol. Even that had its use challenged when the constitution was amended to prohibit its use. It was only the overwhelming disregard for the law and the associated crime that caused the repeal.

People want to be happy and feel good. Our ability to do so by innate processes is interfered with by many conditions, loneliness, unfulfillment, stress, disease. And a natural high is pale by comparison to a good beer buzz or a cocaine rush. Then too, once you supplant the body's usual condition with a substance induced enhancement, the body tends to shut down the feel-good cycle. The classic example is opiate use suppressing endorphin production. When you stop taking the opiate, everything is painful till the balance is restored.

It takes time and dedication, but when you have been clean a while, you can get a good rush from a cool drink of water. You can call up a mental image that will will have you tingling in every nerve with pleasure in Life, connected to the infinite.

And yes, mmj22, one could call it God and not be far off, it's just that there are so many proprietary claims to that term that it only invites dissension to use it.

Peace

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jerry carlton 4 years ago

mmjpatient22 Most people have a "God" in their lives. For many americans it is money. Although I do not know you since you do not choose to relase your name, your posts would indicate your "God" is MMJ. My God goes by several names, the best known one is Jesus.

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muck 4 years ago

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." - Albert Einstein quote on Hemp

HERE IS PROOF! ALL YOU NAY SAYERS AINT NO EINSTEIN!

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

John- So, let me see if I've got this straight...you're under the assumption that I don't hold a refreshing drink of water in the same light as yourself. Maybe you think that, because I'm a cannabis user, your drink of water tastes/feels much better to you, than mine does to me? I can assure you that this is almost 100% bass-ackwards. Water, especially when I've just finished partaking in some cannabis, is singularly one of the most refreshing things on the planet and it can almost break that spiritual plane of having an out of body experience. Trust me, as a cannabis user, water is my friend. A dear, close friend.

So, instead of trying to take the debate in the same direction as every other nae-sayer out there(God&philosophy&sociology&morality), how about someone comes up with a logical, well-formed rebuttal to the very simple questions that I, and my other cannabis brethren, post on these comment boards? Mostly, when someone does a whole lot of beating around the bush after being asked some fairly direct questions, it usually means that the 100% truth might just be absent from their answer. I get bored with BS and bureaucracy after a while and it seems like that's all that the nae-sayer crowd has left to offer. I couldn't agree more that the science and the math hasn't been as tediously worked out on cannabis as it has been on SOME of the pharmaceuticals out there, but how is that work ever supposed to be accomplished? With cannabis being listed as a schedule 1 narcotic, it's kinda off limits to researchers and the other requisite minds of those types. It's just like when they enacted the Cannabis Tax Stamp act of '32. They composed a maze of legal hoops to jump through to legalize your cannabis, but the fine print in the law made it illegal to complete the necessary steps to get the damn stamps. Kinda lame, huh?

Well, that's all that most of us are really looking for; an end to the lameness. Let's make it happen people!

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

And as for that noisy little cricket, maybe some of us have things to do other than check for your response(s) to our comments inside of every 24hrs? Maybe you shouldn't ascribe so much weight to your words? Maybe you're not as cutting/cunning/witty as you hold yourself to be?
But I ain't mad at ya. Your response is pretty typical for a nae-sayer, so it's not like you're throwing any curve-balls my way.

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muck 4 years ago

Lover-

Sorry about your loss. But here is a little info you should read before you make a uneducated hypothesis on your uncle's death.

Marijuana smoking does not cause lung cancer and even protects the lung from that scourge. Senior researcher, Donald Tashkin, M.D., Professor of Medicine at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA in Los Angeles says the findings were a surprise as they expected to find that a history of heavy marijuana use would increase the risk of cancer from several years to decades after exposure to marijuana. "We expected that we would find that a history of heavy marijuana use – more than 500-1,000 uses - would increase the risk of cancer from several years to decades after exposure to marijuana", said Dr Donald Tashkin, who led the study. However, the team surprisingly found no link between use of marijuana and cancers. "We know that there are as many or more carcinogens and co-carcinogens in marijuana smoke as in cigarettes. But we did not find any evidence for an increase in cancer risk for even heavy marijuana smoking."

And for you HYPOTHESIS on those"pesticides and chemicals" use that you say caused his death. Next time you have a salad or a apple........ 50 chemicals used in production of APPLES in the USA! i will give you 1

02071 (CA DPR Chem Code Text) , 02071 (CA DPR Chem Code) , 063501 (US EPA PC Code Text) , 2071 (CA DPR Chem Code) , 2071 (CA DPR Chem Code) , 63501 (US EPA PC Code) , 8008-20-6 (CAS number) , 8008206 , 8008206 (CAS number without hyphens) , Coal oil , Deodorized base oil , Deodorized kerosene , huiles de houille , Kerosene , Kerosene , Kerosene (Fuel Oils) , Keroseno , Kerosine , Petroleum base oil , Pyrethrum Extract, solvent for (Use 2 code nos. 063501 and 069001) , Pyrethrum Extract, solvent for (Use 2 EPA PC code nos. 063501 and 069001) , Range oil

YES KEROSENE! enjoy them apples!!

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muck 4 years ago

How bout this one!

Diazinon? Used heavily in GRAPE and WINE production. Also on apples.

Diazion......... used to make TICK AND FLEA collars for dogs cats and pest fly strips.

1.2 million lbs used in agriculture applications in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA each year.

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muck 4 years ago

Lover i use LADYBUGS for pesticide in my LEGAL MMJ garden!

I wont try to save you from your fruit, if you STOP trying to save me from my personal choices!

DEAL?

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muck 4 years ago

As medical director for Medical Cannabis of Southern California I have taken care of patients who have been diagnosed with Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome (CVS). Cannabis is an incredible treatment for patients who suffer from this disorder. CVS is characterized by recurring episodes of severe nausea and vomiting which last from hours to days. Patients typically have periods of weeks to months without an episode and then can have episodes unexpectedly. It typically starts in children ages 3-7 and remits in early adulthood however it can persist throughout a patients life. The medical community is unclear as to what the cause is but they seem to think to genetics on the maternal side. Many times patients also experience migraine headaches. This disorder can be very debilitating and lead to hospitalization if a patient becomes severely dehydrated as a result of vomiting or develops an imbalance in their electrolytes (ie. Sodium) Typical treatments are anti-emetics (Zofran/Compazine etc), IV fluids and rest.

What I have found from evaluating patients with CVS is that they seem to do extremely well with cannabis. Their episodes of vomiting are less frequent. When they experience nausea and vomiting it is less intense and their appetites are greatly improved. Many times patients will medicate with cannabis on a regular basis to keep episodes from occurring (prophylactic treatment). Once a patient identifies the triggers for his/her vomiting they can time when they medicate.

Cannabinoids (medically active ingredient in the cannabis plant) have incredible anti-emetic(vomiting) properties. The FDA has approved a drug called marinol which is THC (tetrahydrocannibinol) in the pill form. THC is only one of over 70 cannabinoids that exert their effect. The plant has all of these additional cannabinoids which make it the ideal treatment for CVS. It is easily tolerated and does not cause any harm to the major organ systems. It is also an incredible appetite stimulant. Ironically this is one of the side effects of using cannabis.

If you suffer from CVS and would like more information to see if cannabis can help you reduce your episodes of CVS please visit our website at www.MCSoCal.com and pre-qualify for free online. Dr. Sean Breen has offices in Long Beach, Irvine and Encinitas. 877-721-0047

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muck 4 years ago

Definition By Mayo Clinic staff

Cyclic vomiting syndrome causes bouts of severe nausea and vomiting that can last for days. The disorder, which has no known cause, may affect as many as one in 50 children. Once thought to affect primarily girls, cyclic vomiting syndrome is now believed to affect boys and girls equally.

Symptoms typically begin between the ages of 3 and 7 years. While the disorder occurs most often in children, cyclic vomiting syndrome can begin at any age. Adult episodes tend to occur less often than episodes do in children, but usually last longer.

Cyclic vomiting syndrome appears to be associated with migraines in some cases. Most children outgrow cyclic vomiting syndrome when they're teenagers. However, children with this condition are at increased risk of migraines as adults.

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muck 4 years ago

Symptoms By Mayo Clinic staff

Cyclic vomiting syndrome causes:

■Severe vomiting ■Nausea ■Loss of appetite ■Gagging ■Pale complexion, often appears before a vomiting episode ■Extreme fatigue These signs and symptoms may occur an average of six times an hour. Episodes in children generally last only a day or two, but adults can have symptoms for almost a week. Adults tend to have about four episodes a year, while children may have 10 or more. Episodes typically begin late at night or early in the morning.

In addition, some people with cyclic vomiting syndrome may develop:

■Sensitivity to light ■Headache ■Fever ■Dizziness ■Diarrhea ■Abdominal pain

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John Fielding 4 years ago

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mmj

I'm not sure I found a simple or direct question to answer in there. But I was only trying to offer my opinion. I am not under any assumption about how you react to a drink of water.

I believe pot should not be illegal, only restricted to adults. I believe the rest of the illegal drugs should also be decriminalized, and the resources we spend fighting drug use be redirected to rehab programs for when people decide they are ready to move on, just like alcohol.

Also like with alcohol, many will remain long in the chemically enhanced state, get their good feelings in pill or powder form. That is their choice, and better they should have good feelings than not. But there will be damage to their families, and other effects on themselves than just the ones they seek.

My point is that for most people it is possible to have as joyous and fulfilling a life without the drug . For some, it is not, at least not without a greater effort than they are able to make. For many of those the reason not to make the effort is because the chemical fix is so easy.

And that is where the definition of addiction comes in. If one will not stop because it is difficult to do so, for physical, mental, moral, or any other reason, if they cannot make themselves want to stop, is it fair to call that an addiction?

My point applies to all the feel good drugs. A great many users of these find themselves less able to feel good without them. It becomes very important to them to keep themselves from getting low, and that takes up a lot of their human potential. You may be able to carry on a full and productive life even under the influence, but I think you'll agree that you are exceptional, many others cannot.

I will not exclude the non chemical compulsions. Overeating, gambling, sexual obsessions, domestic tyranny, avarice, the list is endless. I overdo adrenaline, I should not risk my physical well being by skiing fast with one ski behind my back, but it gives me a thrill, and a sense of accomplishment. But if I injure myself and cannot support my family I will have done much the same damage to them as an alcoholic.

The advice from the most respected of our species has been moderation in all things. I cannot improve on that.

And sorry for chirping so soon.

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muck 4 years ago

Causes By Mayo Clinic staff

The cause of cyclic vomiting syndrome is unknown, but the bouts of vomiting that characterize the condition can be triggered by:

■Colds, allergies or sinus problems ■Emotional stress or excitement ■Foods such as chocolate or cheese ■Overeating or eating right before going to bed ■Hot weather ■Physical exhaustion ■Menstruation ■Motion sickness

NOTE: NO MJ USE MENTIONED AT ALL

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muck 4 years ago

Risk factors By Mayo Clinic staff

Many children who have cyclic vomiting syndrome have a family history of migraines or begin having migraines themselves when they get older. Abdominal migraine — a type of migraine more common in children — causes abdominal pain but not the severe vomiting associated with cyclic vomiting syndrome.

NOTE: NO MMJ USE MENTIONED AT ALL

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muck 4 years ago

Complications By Mayo Clinic staff

Cyclic vomiting syndrome can cause the following complications:

■Dehydration. Excessive vomiting causes the body to lose water quickly. This can also lead to an imbalance in electrolytes, the important salts needed to keep the body working properly. In severe cases, hospital treatment is required. ■Injury to the esophagus. The stomach acid that comes up with the vomit can damage the tube that connects the mouth and stomach (esophagus). Sometimes the esophagus becomes so irritated, it bleeds. ■Tooth decay. The acid in the vomit can corrode tooth enamel.

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muck 4 years ago

Look at these causes. ■Colds, allergies or sinus problems ■Emotional stress or excitement ■Foods such as chocolate or cheese ■Overeating or eating right before going to bed ■Hot weather ■Physical exhaustion ■Menstruation ■Motion sickness

I am shocked we all dont have this condition. MR. SHARP shame on you for your scare tactic! This is the MAYO clinic not your 1 time a week visit to Steamboat as a SO CALLED DOCTOR. SHAME ON YOU!!

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Clearsky 4 years ago

Additives to pot could be the culprit to this vomitting thing. We need an agency to regulate the quality and purity of the marijuana for the safety of everyone and anyone. Oh that's right then it would have to be LEGAL.

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muck 4 years ago

Additive? What could be worse then the 600 chemicals that go into the production of cigarettes? All know pesticides that are used on the production of tabacco can be used in the production of marijuana. I dont see Mr. Sharp screaming for all users to stop the use of tabacco due to a increase of CANCER at the hospital. IF HE DOSEN'T WANT TO PRESCRIBE MMJ THATS FINE. BUT DON'T CONTINUE THE CYCLE OF LIES THAT KEEP MARIJUANA PROHIBITIED AND SCARE SOME OF THE SHEEP IN THE FLOCK THAT WILL BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID.

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muck 4 years ago

A close person to me is suffering from LUNG CANCER. NEVER TRIED MMJ ever in their life. However this person did smoke cigarettes for 30 years. After 3 major surgeries and 5 rounds of CHEMO they went to the University of Colorado cancer research center for their fight that they were losing. The head of cancer research stated "MMJ has a 6 in 1 use for cancer patients". But...... due to the possibility of FEDERAL PROSICUTION and CU being a federal funded school he regreted he could not prescribe for this persons needs. So we got a priscrip with a despensary and this person is still in there fight because of the WEIGHT GAINED since the introduction of edible MMJ. Since the FIRST BITE OF LOCALLY PRODUCED EDIBLE MMJ PRODUCTS, THIS PERSON HAS NOT VOMITIED IN 3 MONTHS AND GAINED 14LBS. SHAME ON YOU DR. SHARP!

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dave fisher 4 years ago

kudos to Dr.Sharp for taking a stand on this issue and backing it up with relevant facts and data (and not allowing himself to be badgered by all of the shouters in this forum).

find a way to make it legal- which is what should have happened 10 years ago when the "MMJ" initiative first made it onto the ballot... and leave the health care professionals out of it. save for the ones who choose to make the big $$$ with their "recommendations", that is. and there's plenty of 'em already. of course, it probably wouldn't have passed straight-up as an anti-prohibition initiative, would it? hence, the side-door "mmj" approach to gain voter approval.

an observation: "Democracy" and "freedom of choice" are still two-way streets, last time i checked.

by the way- i took the time to read Dr. Sharp's letter completely. but then i skipped over the vast majority of comments here, posted by all of the usual shills. why? Boring with a capital B, to the point of making me nauseous. as soon as i see the CAPS LOCK SHOUTERS weighing in on anything, i'm already scrolling past.

the proponents of mmj posting here are your own worst enemies. try shutting up and listening for a change... your cause would have a lot more credibility if you did. the way you guys have to shout down anyone with a position divergent from yours makes it seem as if you folks are actually in the services of the prohibitionists. way to go mmjpatient22, drgreengenes, blue spruce, muck - DIRTY CARL, etc., etc., etc.

all of you "burn victims" should see a doctor all right... of psychology.

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hereandthere 4 years ago

Relevant facts and data? Sorry, but I did not see any such thing. More importantly, it is ironic, and telling, that at the same time that you complain of the proponents shouting down anyone with a position divergent from theirs, you belittle their responses as not even worthy of your exalted consideration.

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

Mr. Fisher,

I'm still waiting for the thrill to hit me from reading your comment. Maybe someday you can walk us all through how to make an invigorating/enrapturing comment like yours?

For the most part, people have been fairly shut up and quiet about things over the past roughly 70 years of cannabis prohibition. Yeah sure, there's always been that "group" that's always shouted on behalf of cannabis but nothing has really been done about ending the cannabis prohibition, until the last decade or so. So after over 70 years of cannabis prohibition, you're trying to tell the cannabis supporters to shut up and listen some more? ....well, best of luck with all that.

And as far as tolerating all of the varying positions that are held on the subject, how do you propose that we contend with the ones that disagree with us? I mean, there's truly only two sides to this argument; legalize it, or not. Plain and simple. So for one of us cannabis supporters, who occupies the "legalize it" side of the aisle, how would you recommend that we debate all of the lies that the prohibitionists spread? Are we supposed to just roll-over and wave the white flag? I think not.

So, until you have a valid point(s) to make on the topic, maybe you should be the one doing most of the shutting up and listening?

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Clearsky 4 years ago

Yeah, Dave_Fisher! God forbid that you get cancer and then have to eat your own words. Practice kindness rather than cruelty.

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

Huh. Another prohibitionist gone with the wind. Imagine my surprise. It's a rarity that one of the cannabis haters sticks around for an actual debate. There aren't all that many of them that have a firm grasp on their debate about why they think cannabis is evil and how much of a danger they think cannabis is to our society. Mostly, there's never anything new in any of their arguments and prohibitionists usually seem to be content with making fallacious/irrational/unreasonable points, at best.

But I'm okay with all of that. I'm used to people not being able to defend the cannabis prohibition. Maybe someday there'll be someone that will actually be able to debate the issue.

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muck 4 years ago

MERRY X-MAS TO ALL!

EVEN THE HYPOCRITE!

THANKS FOR THE JOY OF LAUGHTER! BEST GIFT YOU HAVE EVER GIVIN THIS TOWN. WE ALMOST PEED OUR PANTS. ALMOST

I WONDER WHO SIGNED YOUR CARD?

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John Fielding 4 years ago

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Most of us who recognize marijuana as generally detrimental to a persons well being are not prohibitionists. Many of us have come to that understanding from personal experience, and thus have also been targets of the war on drugs. To those who can view it objectively, the promotion of it as a wonder drug is as disingenuous as its characterization as a root of evil.

Any debate?

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

John-

Here's where there could be a problem; first of all, there's a big difference between "wonder drug" and "cure-all." I know for a fact that I've never claimed it to be a "cure-all" but I will never cease to believe that cannabis is a wonder drug. I'd like to know just how many other naturally occurring plants have as many uses, both medicinal and non-medicinal. Even with-in the scope of medicinal uses, there are a vast number of circumstances where cannabis can be good for your health. Not that any of you nae-sayers will ever read any of this but I feel compelled to post it anyway. A list of uses for cannabis in medicine: http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/articles/UltimateMedicalMarijuanaReferenceGuide.pdf If you can read through that list and then honestly tell me that qualifying cannabis as a "wonder drug" is a misnomer, then I'll probably question your reading comprehension skills.

Secondly, I have a difficult time seeing how you can view cannabis as a detriment to those that choose to use it, and simultaneously you claim that you aren't a prohibitionist. You're saying that it's bad for people but you don't want it prohibited from them, or you're saying that it's bad for people and you don't want to be labeled as a prohibitionist but you still think it should be illegal, ....or what? In any case, you're most likely wrong. Not trying to be mean or anything, just honest. Cannabis is not evil and it's not bad for people. What IS bad for people is too much of anything. When people abuse things, even way beyond cannabis, things can have the propensity to go poorly. It goes back to the "guns don't kill people" theory. It's not the actual inanimate object that did the killing. It was a person that had made a decision to pick up an inanimate object and use it to end someone's life. You can't hold the gun accountable for a decision that someone made.

All I'm saying is that we've got to stop holding cannabis responsible for every little idiotic thing that people do. It's not cannabis' fault. Why can't we just have crimes, instead of criminalized plants? Why do American tax-payers have to continue to support pitiful failures, like the war on drugs? Why aren't our politicians crippling the Mexican drug cartels by cutting off one of the major legs that they have to stand on? END THE WAR ON CANNABIS!!!

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John Fielding 4 years ago

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You are entirely correct, I misstated my point. I should have specified "consumption" as detrimental.And of course it is true that too much of anything is harmful. But few substances posses that quality of motivating the user to continue on to abuse. Because marijuana is widely recognized for that attribute it is lumped in with alcohol, cocaine and opiates as targets for prohibition.

The way one can reconcile a position of supporting decriminalization while discouraging use is simply to shift the responsibility back from the state to the individual. In a free society it is not the appropriate role for government to protect the person from their own actions. That so many laws are designed to do so, like seat-belt and helmet regulations, is an expression of the genuine concern of the majority for their fellows who are perceived quite correctly as unwilling or unable to serve their own best interests. Other laws such as restrictions on gambling and loan sharking have the additional motivation of preventing the unscrupulous from preying upon these weaknesses. Drug use clearly falls into these categories.

The war on drugs is a complete failure by any measure, and must be ended,. as was the case with alcohol prohibition But the campaign to educate the public of the real dangers of habituation to use of mood enhancing drugs, and to assist in the recovery of the many who will still fall victim must continue.

Regarding your other point, the peanut and the soybean come to mind as plants of remarkable versatility, and others yet unrecognized must surely exist. It seems many uses are discovered when research is directed, but ultimately, one will have the most uses discovered. In that process potentials for abuse will also come to light. Having potential for good as well as harm does not justify the harmful use.

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muck 4 years ago

John-

By no means am i attacking you. But please clarify your following statement. "Having potential for good as well as harm does not justify the harmful use".

Sir i take a prescribed drug for heartburn. Lets just say purple pill. The list of "potential side effects" are long and i am sure you know what thery are. That drug has done some good things for me without some side effects. Some local doctors have informed me that i may need this pill for long term use.

If you are a doctor i am sure you have prescribed a slew of such drugs with ill side effects. Even the drug companies warn of "heart attack or CANCER" as a possible side effect on tv.

How can you say that "Having potential for good as well as harm does not justify the harmful use". Show me a drug that you prescibe that has good effect 100% without any side effect. Just name 1.

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mmjPatient22 4 years ago

It's odd, I guess, that the conversation almost slows to a halt when a couple of cannabis users show themselves to be a little bit more than meets the eye.

There's no denying it; almost every single cannabis user in the world longs a time when their beloved plant is no longer considered something that's illegal or reprehensible. Even with-in the "medical" marijuana community there are a vast number of people view the prohibition of cannabis as silly, at best. Things are changing in America, whether anyone likes it or not. It won't be long before this very state will be voting on the legalization of cannabis for itself. That's right, in 2012 the residents of Colorado will vote on legalizing cannabis, in the face of federal authority. Not only is Colorado voting on a legalization ballot issue, but California is re-voting on a legalization ballot issue in the very same election year. There will be no protection in the law against federal prosecution, but with a simple memo from our current President to our Attorney General(Eric Holder), we have been granted temporary "immunity" from federal prosecution, so long as we're with-in the bounds of our respective state's laws.

The long and short of it is that no one has truly ever had the right to tell anyone else that they don't have the right to enjoy themselves, as long as they aren't harming someone else. Personally, I can't wait for the farce of the cannabis prohibition to finally meet its end, once and for all.

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John Fielding 4 years ago

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Muck, it is simply that if one purple pill relieves your heartburn but three make you feel so good that you want to keep taking three, even though there are negative effects on your job performance, family relationships, and financial condition.

And mmj, the conversation is still going. I answered your question, Cannabis, alcohol, coca and opium all fall into the same category, and I support self restraint, not government restraint.

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John Fielding 3 years, 12 months ago

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I have has to ponder the meaning of "show themselves to be a little more than meets the eye". I believe I understand it now, that being regarded as articulate and intelligent is not what would be anticipated, but rather the stereotypical stoner is what would be expected. Because you are more, people back down from engaging in the debate with you. Is that close?

I agree that you come across as exceptional, but that is what validates my point. The habitual cannabis user so often is just "what meets the eye", that is, well, wasted. There is a valid reason that the stereotype exists, because such a large percentage of potheads are. I still say it should not be criminal to get wasted, but it must be generally regarded as "bad for people", there is no positive synonym for "wasted".

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John Fielding 3 years, 12 months ago

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wasted [ˈweɪstɪd] adj 1. not exploited or taken advantage of a wasted opportunity 2. useless or unprofitable wasted effort 3. (Medicine) physically enfeebled and emaciated a thin wasted figure 4. (Law / Recreational Drugs) Slang showing signs of habitual drug abuse

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

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mmjPatient22 3 years, 12 months ago

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Actually what was meant by that was meant to be taken a little more literally. I am really an Autobot and my name is Optimus. We have come to your planet to defend you against the Decepticons, who are in search of the Cube.

But seriously, yes. That is what was meant when I said the whole "more than meets the eye" thing. It seems like very few people actually want to take up the debate with someone that not only knows what they're talking about but can accurately articulate their side of the debate also. So to that end, thank you for sticking around for a little discussion on the topic. You're engaging enough to keep me interested, and you're not as flippant/prideful/egotistical/absolute/elitist as some of the other avatars I've debated with on here(aichempty, for one). Bravo sir.

Secondly, as far as the "wasted" thing goes, I guess beauty is really in the eye of the beholder. I view my life without cannabis as a complete waste of time/air/space. The level of, and persistence of, the pain that I experience without combating it with cannabis is enough to turn me into a pretty irritable guy, to put it lightly. I hobble around like a crippled old man that's twice my age and my somewhat athletic build becomes of no effect, when the pain really grabs a hold of me.
With cannabis, I am able to enjoyably accomplish things that become very difficult to do when I don't use cannabis. With cannabis, I can take all that wasted time when my body was limited because it was so wracked with pain and turn that into productive/enjoyable time. I worked 15 hours solid yesterday. It was the 10th day in a row that I worked and I have two jobs. If I didn't use my cannabis last night after work and this morning when I woke up, I'd probably still be unable to get out of bed this morning and I'd most likely be yelling at everyone I saw today.

My point is, there could be a hell of a lot more waste in my life, but I don't allow it. I could be on unemployment or maybe even collect disability. But I'm not, and I don't. I happen to know a lot of people in this valley that are not only cannabis users but are also valued, contributing, gainfully employed members of society. In fact, I know of more people in this town that use cannabis, than don't. And for the most part, they are the friendlier, more out-going, more genuine people that you meet around here. After-all, that's what this community has prided itself on, right? That good ol' western hospitality and warm smiles?

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John Fielding 3 years, 12 months ago

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mmj

You have my sympathy for your debilitating pain, and I rejoice you have found a means of relieving it. You also have my sympathy for having to take a potent medication constantly. However, the affection you have for that medication has been made abundantly clear. If you no longer needed it for the pain, would you want to discontinue its use?

Some of the other symptoms of the lack of medication you describe, especially grouchiness, and difficulty getting out of bed are typical of lack of ones habitual dose of anything one is habituated to. Conceivably those could end after a sufficiently long abstinence, or better yet the substitution of a completely holistic regimen of meditation, yoga, aerobic exercise, excellent nutrition, and a relentlessly positive attitude. (The latter is best accomplished by developing a genuine and deep appreciation of the blessings in ones life, including the blessing of a condition so painful that it would inspire one to take on the program described above). In all likelihood it would cure your pain, but at what cost, who wants to have to live like that?

My biggest issue with the position you advocate is that it is so unrealistic to expect that many can use that amount of cannabis on that frequent a dosage and not fall victim to the typical pothead syndrome. If you would add a disclaimer, like with the diet pills, "results shown not typical", or with the sleeping pills, "risk of developing dependence from frequent use", it would provide a degree of respectability and credibility that your advocacy currently does not possess.

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John Fielding 3 years, 12 months ago

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PS, you are not debating with an avatar, I conscientiously include my name with statements of my position.

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