Stuart Handloff: Conference price

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How totally fitting in the Aug. 24 Steamboat Today: An op-ed from Paul Krugman condemning the neo-conservative support of tax cuts for the wealthy, and an invitation to the local Freedom Conference for only $250 a person ($175 for children). For the average working class family that’s only, oh, $850 for a family of four. Totally affordable. Only chump change for the Steamboat Institute crowd, but oh-so-not affordable for the average working class person they are intending to represent.

Stuart Handloff

Steamboat Springs

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exduffer 4 years, 3 months ago

How totally fitting that the Colorado for Recycling summit only cost $415 per person. For the average working family of four that comes out to $1660. Chump change for the Al Gore crowd.

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housepoor 4 years, 3 months ago

i didn't know recycling is a political position? i guess it might be for conservatives and tea party crowd

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exduffer 4 years, 3 months ago

What about our little recyclers out there? Write a 500 word essay and you may have a chance to win! Just make sure you have your parents permission to go to the big green machine!

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housepoor 4 years, 3 months ago

i think i did hear on fox news that recyling is a waste of time and we should probably stop doing it until we have more scientific evidence that it does any good. We'll have see where Ken Buck stands on that, he seems to be a voice a reason.

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sledneck 4 years, 3 months ago

Al Gore is the gift that keeps on giving! Hee Hee Hee... Suckers!

Just who the h**l do you think you have representing YOU Stuart? Do you think the Obama adminstration is populated with monks who've taken the vow of poverty?

You guys' feigned belief that your side knows no corruption apart from that which is visited upon it from the other is wearing thin. Does the name Charlie (I cant find my tax return)Wrangle Or Tim (I'm not a taxpayer but I play one in D.C) Geithner ring any bells Stuart??

I'm ammused that one would give lipservice to freedom and place such a low value upon it with his next breath. My family's freedom is certainly worth $850

Recycling is not a political issue, it's a choice... and we KNOW the left is pro-choice in everythi... DOOHH!

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exduffer 4 years, 3 months ago

How much was it to see Benny B in Jackson Hole this past week? I noticed the MSNBC guys seemed to be having a good time.

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Rick Akin 4 years, 3 months ago

Stuart, The $175 price is for adults under 30, rather than children. Because there are sessions of speakers that last all morning or afternoon, we have not had anyone interested in bringing children, other than speakers who are making a mini vacation out of the trip. To attend the portions of the conference that did not include meals (there were 4 meals included in the Full Conference registration), the cost was $95 or $25 for those under 30. This is an expensive event to put on and the admission prices do not cover the actual cost. The difference is made up by private donors and sponsors. Hopefully, this clears up your misunderstanding.

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seeuski 4 years, 3 months ago

Great job again by Rick and Jennifer, two years in a row and it just keeps getting better each time. Thanks for all the hard work.

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Rick Akin 4 years, 3 months ago

Thanks seeuski. I should also point out that we have no paid staff. All the work is done by volunteers.

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exduffer 4 years, 3 months ago

House, I would have loved to go to both. And yes recycling is political, it is a business.

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sledneck 4 years, 3 months ago

If anything business is, by default, political you have discovered a large hole in our boat.

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NamVet 4 years, 3 months ago

The Freedom Conference was nothing more than Conservatives patting themselves on the back for the great job they did when they were in control of the government and a reaffirmation that when they regain the power they will continue on the same path. They also honored the master of misinformation, Karl Rove. However when you look at the past decade and the numbers associated with it you may say is this what we want. 4419 is the number of troops killed just in Iraq, 31719 wounded in Iraq, $1.3 trillion dollars spent, all borrowed, on 2 wars. $2.3 trillion borrowed to finance the Bush tax cuts, $787 billion spent on the big bank bailout all borrowed which insured billions of bonuses to the executives that caused the whole mess.
The war in Iraq did not get us any oil and only accomplished one thing and that is getting rid of the evil Sadam. The Middle East is worse off today because now Iran is in the drivers seat which Sadam kept in check. The new Iraqi Shiite government is now the same as the Shiite Iran. If anything we made things worse with a nuclear Iran on the horizon with a partner in Iraq down the road. Which means another war when they take back the power with Iran which Conservatives will love because they will not serve nor pay for it.
If you look back to the year 2000 and where this country was and where it is today the only conclusion I can come up is what a mess. The Democrats are no better but all our problems did not happen in the last 18 months. Conservatives talk the talk but never walk the walk . I guess they were celebrating the Freedom to run a country into the ground.

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S_G30 4 years, 3 months ago

NamVet, I think that it is irrational to compare 2000 with 2001. Everyone knows that something had to be done after 9/11 and I think that we would all agree that the world changed for ever on that day. I am not defending the decision to go to Iraq, but this administration is on track to double the spending that you have referenced in 4 years, with nothing to show for it, but a country that is more divided that ever. I'm pretty sure that people were expecting something different when they voted for the obamster. Quit blaming conservatives for the problems of this adminstration, after all conservative thought is what makes it ok for me to disagree with you.

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NamVet 4 years, 3 months ago

S-G30 -The Democrats are no better than the Republicans or so called Conservatives. Obama will be a one term President unless he gets his act together soon. The difference is Conservatives promise us balanced budgets, smaller government and less taxes. They make good on less taxes but then go on spending sprees. It is not just the last 10 years but the last 30. When Reagan who I voted for twice took office the national debt was 900 billion and when W left office the debt was 13 trillion. 20 out of 28 years was under Conservative Administrations and the only Administration that balanced the budget was Slick Willie who I never voted for. It was W that trashed the Balanced Budget Amendment that Gingrich and Clinton put together then preceded to spend a deficit of $5 trillion and increase government by 68%. The Iraq War was bad enough but W could have at least paid for it instead of borrowing the money from the Chinese and the Saudi's. It is called shared sacrifice. When a country goes to war the entire country goes to war not just 1/2 of 1% of the population which in this case is our military and their families. If you are not willing to be part of the shared sacrifice then ALL our troops should be brought home today from the Middle East. You can disagree with me but the facts are the facts and that is the Conservatives are not any better than the Liberals. The state of this Nation proves that.

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Cooke 4 years, 3 months ago

Namvet -- That may have my vote for post of the year...thanks for sharing!

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seeuski 4 years, 3 months ago

Can someone please set the record straight on what the debt was and is so we don't have to except a Bush haters false testimony? I already have but would rather someone else do the easy research.

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NamVet 4 years, 3 months ago

Love to do that, the National debt in 1980 was 900 billion and in 2009 it was 13 trillion+. It has nothing to do with BUSH other than he added 5 trillion + to it. What else do you need to know Ms. Palin?

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seeuski 4 years, 3 months ago

Please provide the Gov charts sir. I am sorry but your word won't do here. I have seen the details and just want to see if you can provide them here. Thank you mate.

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NamVet 4 years, 3 months ago

It is very simple, google Federal debt 1980 to 2010 and go to "en.wikpedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt" All the charts are there from the early 1900's It will show that the national debt was $909 billion in 1980 and $13.298.8 trillion in 2010. Conservative Presidents Reagan and H.W Bush quadrupled the national debt during their 12 years and W added $5.6 trillion during his 8 years and left a $1.3 trillion deficit for his last yearly budget. I guess you must get all your info from the "Fair and Balanced" FOX opinion Network of Karl Rove and they blame Obama for the $13 trillion in just the last 18 months along with every other problem this nation has. Give him some time he just may be able to catch up to the 2 Bush's and Reagan but he has a long way to go.

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Matthew Stoddard 4 years, 3 months ago

NamVet- Make sure to balance it to show which years were Red or Blue Congressional Control. The Pres submits the budget, but Congress has to approve it. Then, don't forget to add in all the prior years supplemental war spending that was never in the original bugdet but still added to discretionary spending.

I ask you to do this since at least your post's numbers are verifiable. Seeuski will just stick a thumb in someone's nether region and see what number comes out. Usually, it's #2.

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seeuski 4 years, 3 months ago

Soooo, did Bush leave office in 2010? Don't let the facts get in your way in your blame it all on Bush campaign strategy that you are following from the Obama re-election handbook. Lets not look at the fact that the Bush deficit included the TARP package that every liberal loved and has largely been paid back. Lets not leave out the fact that Congress went into the control of the Dems in 2006 and the wave of pork spending went through the roof. Why has Fanni/Freddie been left in place untouched by Obama in this wonderful 1st term? Why is the SEC now free from FOIA requirements? Why are we allowing tax dollars to fill the void of the Union pensions that were raided by the big wig thugs like Stern and the others? Why is Obama now talking about giving our money to bailout Banks in Afghanistan? The Iraq war to date has cost less than the Obama stimulus package which has done nothing to help Americans. But what the heck, pass the koolaid I see a mid term election going down the crapper, and there is a sausage caught in the eddy.

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NamVet 4 years, 3 months ago

Sarah you are obviously a big supporter of the Bush legacy. I would like you to see first hand the Bush legacy as I have. I would like you to go to the nearest National Cemetery, Military Hospital, VA Hospital and see what your idol has done to our men and women in uniform. Then volunteer as I have at the Fallen Heroes Foundation and see up front and personal what the consequences of lies from people like Karl Rove have done. More Americans have died because of this than were killed on 9/11. I feel the same toward Bush as I do toward LBJ who also is responsible for the deaths of many of my comrades. Like I've said many times before I wouldn't give you 2 cents for the Democrats or Republicans. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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S_G30 4 years, 3 months ago

NamVet, have you ever witnessed a stoning of a 14 year old girl that refused to marry a 56 year old man? Common place in a culture that treats women like dogs. What would you have done after 9/11 to a culture that has practices such as this? Talked with them and told them please don't bomb our buildings anymore. These people HATE us with every fabric of their being. The majority is not the problem, the minority are the ones that would gladly kill every man, women and child because of a beleif. They don't need a reason, they are just told to do so by a "finger snapper" as a freind of mine would say. Scary stuff, something that we have never had to deal with before. Thank God for every service person we have that would lay it on the line to protect us from people such as this! They are doing more than fighting for our country, they are fighting for a person who deserves to walk around and not have to worry that they will be shot, stoned or hung every day. God Bless them for their sacrifice. I think that comments such as the ones above take away from what they continue to do for all of us. I think that we all need to keep things in perspective rather than let emotion tell the tale. By the way, thanks for your service as well!

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NamVet 4 years, 3 months ago

Thank you but I firmly believe Sadam was not worth one American life. I agree with you when it comes to Afghanistan but unfortunately that war was put on the back burner before the job of getting BinLaden was accomplished and was forgotten for many years until recently. I spent many years in the Middle East starting in the 1970's and I'm quite aware.of the culture and how it has evolved when it comes to the US. To put it mildly Afghanistan is a hell hole and will remain that way with or without our intervention. Just ask the Brits, Russians and it goes back as far as Alexander the Great which is why it is called the "Graveyard of Empires."

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pitpoodle 4 years, 3 months ago

Let's see, Nam: The liberals are in charge now. Unemployment is incredibly high, there is no job creation on the horizon, obama has his war, the deficit is higher than it has ever been with no end in sight, the country is seriously divided with obama continually encouraging it, proposals are in the works to do away with tax cuts that could actually provide capital for economic expansion through investment in small business and research, to name just a few items. Having liberals at the helm has been a disaster for the country. The state of the nation at this time proves that conservatives are a better choice - by far.

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NamVet 4 years, 3 months ago

Yes, they proved that from 2001 to 2006+. Lets bring back the same bunch of clowns that created the whole mess to begin with starting with Bush trashing the Balanced Budget Amendment so he could go on a $5.6 Trillion spending spree, start 2 grossly mismanaged wars(not paid for) and give away $2.3 Trillion in tax cuts with borrowed money etc.. Granted the Liberal Democrats are no better but to say Conservatives will be our saviors is just folly. I would not give you 2 cents for either party which is why I quit my life long affiliation with the Republican party (thanks to W) and became Independent. The problem with Congress can be summed up in 4 words-McConnell, Reid, Boehner, Polosi. All idiots as far as I'm concerned. All politicians are the same regardless of party. Do you know how to tell when they are lying? Their lips are moving!

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