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— It's a sad day in America when the president of the United States can't talk directly to schoolchildren about the value of education and the importance of them taking responsibility for their success in school and life.

The overblown controversy surrounding President Barack Obama's 20-minute speech broadcast live Tuesday on C-SPAN and the White House's Web site is, unfortunately, representative of where we are as a nation - so politically polarized that even a straightforward talk about education is met with irrational resistance. The intensity of that polarization was felt even in Routt County, where the leaders of our three public school districts were put in the unenviable position of deciding whether to appease the few parents who called to complain about the speech, the few who called to support it, or the vast majority who didn't call at all. The late notice of the speech didn't help, nor did the holiday weekend that prevented schools from having more time to prepare for it.

Despite those challenges, our school districts should have shown the speech live to all students in their classrooms, where available. Students who didn't want to hear the address from their president - or whose parents didn't want them to hear it - certainly should have been given the chance to opt out, but the burden should have been on those students and families, not the other way around.

In Steamboat, school officials made the live broadcast available in school media centers as opposed to classrooms. Students who wanted to see it could leave their classes to do so. The district also planned to record the speech and make it available to teachers who want to use it at a later date. By Tuesday afternoon, the district's Web site featured a link to the speech video so parents and their children could watch it together. Middle school Principal Tim Bishop said the district simply wanted to reach a compromise that worked for everyone.

Steamboat Springs High School's plan was adjusted at the last minute when Principal Kevin Taulman allowed the broadcast to be shown in individual classrooms. Students who didn't want to watch it could go to the media center.

"The speech was worth taking time out of class," Taulman said. "It allowed students to see a speech specifically aimed at them from the president of the United States. That doesn't happen every day."

We couldn't agree more. And although we don't doubt that every move made by the president and every other national political figure is calculated at some level, the text of Obama's speech revealed nothing more than an inspiring message from the leader of our nation. If Obama's speech motivated just one child in every classroom across America, the time taken away from regular curriculum was worth it.

Students in Hayden didn't get the chance Tuesday, because Superintendent Greg Rockhold said they'd be too busy on the first day of classes for the 2009-10 school year to listen to a presidential address about their education. We can't think of a better time to stress the importance of education to students than on their first day of a new school year.

Finally, South Routt Superintendent Scott Mader left it up to individual teachers to decide whether to show the speech to their students. Mader told the Steamboat Today that he thought Obama's message would be an important one for students to hear. We wish he would have taken that stand for his district and not put his teachers in the uncomfortable position of making that choice while in the midst of trying to build positive relationships with the parents of their students.

Much of the controversy stemming from it centered on the inclusion of suggested lesson plans to accompany the speech. Part of the lesson plans encouraged students to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president." Conservative pundits immediately criticized Obama for attempting to use a captive audience of children to push his political agenda. Nevermind that then President George H.W. Bush encouraged students to write a similar letter during a speech to them in 1991. It was a speech that reportedly led Democrats to demand an investigation into the taxpayer money spent by Bush on the address.

The Obama White House called the current controversy "silly" but nonetheless changed the wording of the lesson plan activity to instead suggest that students "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short- and long-term education goals."

Democrats aren't off the hook. Both parties seem to spend as much time assailing each other as they do working together to enact meaningful legislation for the betterment of our country.

Regardless, when the sitting president of the United States wants to take less than half an hour to talk to kids about personal responsibility and their educations, we should listen. More important, our students should listen.

We think an opportunity was lost Tuesday for many of Routt County's schoolchildren.

Comments

Magpie 4 years, 10 months ago

Oh and we are having some technical difficulties at the Pilot with my account. I don't want to be posting annon.

-Carrie Requist

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exduffer 4 years, 10 months ago

A lost opportunity to educate on the importance proof reading.

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Magpie 4 years, 10 months ago

Except the students at Strawberry Park (I don't know about Soda creek) did not get to watch unless they had prior permission from their parents, which is not so bad if the parents had been informed of this. The only thing I heard about it was from the SP&T article that said all students would be allowed to watch it if they chose, so I told that to my children. My middle schooler did and my elementary kids at SPE were not allowed but came home with permission slips to watch it on Thurdsay.

They will watch it on Thursday and we are discussing both the speech and the controversy at home.

The president, by virtue of being the rightfully elected president of the US, has earned the right to talk to the nation (including the students), no matter the political party.

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kathy foos 4 years, 10 months ago

I have to defend the right of parents and educators to "filter' anyone as they are responsible for the children.Without this right ,like it or not this country could end up like some communist country where the president tells school children and parents and teachers alike,what they will think and do or ELSE.

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1999 4 years, 10 months ago

I agree with sun.

people do have the right to filter BUT ignorance is far more damaging.

NOT listening to communists is far more damaging than knowing where they are coming from.

making up idiotic socialist scenarios that indoctrinate our children is far more damaging than allowing the kids to just listen.

sure people have the right not to listen but their reasoning was faulty in this case and only damaged the kids

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JLM 4 years, 10 months ago

At the end of the day, this is all just "feel good" social commentary which is not really the job of the President of the US. Education is a local responsibility not a Federal responsibility. The school and the operating budget are funded locally.

The speech itself was filled with not particularly insightful predictable platitudes which could have been spoken by any competent 2nd grade teacher. Yawn!

I have no problem with the President opining on anything he desires to opine upon and, frankly, I have no problem with his speaking from whatever political leaning he favors. The Presidency is after all the "bully pulpit" and he has earned the right to use it so.

If he had simply gone to a school, made a speech and it was covered by the media --- then this would have been even more inconsequential than it has turned out to be.

This is just another example of the naivete of this President, his lack of perspective and his woeful lack of experience. Everything he does has to be so, so, so "special" cause he is so, so, so special?

Much ado about nothing!

Having said all of that, don't for a second think that it was not calculated, vetted, focus grouped, written, revised and delivered with a political objective in hand --- this Administration is not capable of doing otherwise. It is their very nature to politicize everything.

And, oh yeah, if you say anything in opposition, then you, my friend, are a racist! LOL

Like much of President Obama --- a mile wide and a quarter inch deep.

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Fred Duckels 4 years, 10 months ago

Academia is a protected bastion of the left and will fight to keep opposing views and individuals from participating. Everyone should have the right to voice a protest such as we have here. It is bad enough that we get the bill, but we should not have to drink the Koolaid.

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canyonwind 4 years, 10 months ago

This speech to kids from Obama was no big deal, kids don't vote and most could care less about politics untill they are well out of college, buying a home and paying taxes. I may not agree with alot of what he stands for but he is a smart man and kids should respect the president no matter what party he is in. Its not like the kids were going to watch Nancy Pelosi (D) San Francisco the speaker of the house a person who refers to protesters as nazi's and stupid or Van Jones the fired Green Job Czar who is also a racist and communist or some other hateful person.

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justice4all 4 years, 10 months ago

If we would have "filtered" our vote a little better in the election, we would not be so leary of what Obama might say to our children. Our children are sometimes "wowed" by being able to hear THE PRESIDENT that they take what he says as gospel. We will continue to monitor what our children see, read and hear-- or at least we will try to. With all the broken or unkept promises that Obama has made and the enormous amounts of our money he has spent, I feel that we have to be leary of what he says. Our children are young and impressionable. We do not want them to get the wrong impression. After all, they are now obligated to repay what Obama has already spent.

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JLM 4 years, 10 months ago

canyon ---

You have not been involved in a political campaign recently, my friend. The entire campaign apparatus is staffed by young folks. Obama won this election in great part by a superior use of social networking technology including Facebook, MySpace, YouTube, IM, SMS, e-mail and the Internet.

Fundraising? Internet driven, my friend! <<<whimsical McCain reference, my friend

The Obama campaign had almost 4MM Facebook friends v 0.06MM for McCain.

When Obama leaves office after 8 years (heavens forbid), the next election will be decided in part by "kids" who are 14 today.

There is nothing this Administration does which is not coldly calculated as to the political implications. My hat is off to them.

The Republicans should be as adept.

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kathy foos 4 years, 10 months ago

I dont think that they(being the people who would want to fitler) should necessarily get away with it,Iagree the children should see whatever,they are citizens in a free country with a free press just like the rest of us (used to be children)..He really shouldnt give them all homework on the same night every teacher is getting their classes together,in the whole country,that is a powerfull message,that would be what the kids will remember,the day the whole united states of america school children had the same assignment.They may be discussing whether you did your home work or not.George W. didnt give homework.I'll bet no one in the world has ever done that,so why not give people a break for saying what the hay?It's only natural curiosity.

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jayohare 4 years, 10 months ago

It seems the libs have a short memory: When Bush spoke to students, Democrats investigated, held hearings | Washington Examiner http://bit.ly/7Ew2B

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Chuck McConnell 4 years, 10 months ago

"A Lost Opportunity" absolutely did not recognize the danger school systems across the country face in presenting Obama as a figure whose philosophy is to be believed. School children are impressionable and if they see or hear something in school they tend to believe it is true and that the messenger is creditable. Obama's words to the kids were clearly positive and hopefully helped one or two troubled children in the inner city but implanting in kids minds the idea that this ideolog is to be listened to on substantive national issues approaches insanity.

Obama's agenda appears to be to socialize America. Proof of this is the cohort of advisors he has surrounded himself with such as Cass Sunstein, Van Jones and Lloyd. Sunstein's writting about forced steralization and animals rights are off the scale to the left, Jones believed the government had a roll in 9/11 and was aligned with far left organizations and Lloyd has praised such despots as Venezuela's Chavez. (I saw the videos.) His push to socialize health care is the most egregious example.

Do we really want our children and grandchildren to see a man with this agenda as a hero and roll modle? I sure don't.

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kathy foos 4 years, 10 months ago

So what was a problem for Democrats before is common practice now?Does that mean that the republicans were right all along?

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untamedShrewd 4 years, 10 months ago

Kudos Pilot and principle Taulman. Shame on the Superintendents and other educators for copping out. As educators you should know more than any one else that knowledge is the foundation of what your here to provide for our kids. That wisdom comes not from censorship but from awareness. And by making it more difficult for kids to watch a harmless historic speech then by having kids remove themselves from watching the speech goes against what we expect from our educators. We hold you to the highest of expectations to provide a vast of information and you failed. Only one child from Strawberry Park went to the media center to watch the speech. Only a handfull of children removed themselves from Soda Creek classes to watch the speech (one 4th grade class ony had two participants). And some middle schoolers decided to play basketball instead of watching the speech. The number of children watching the President speak, thus honoring and respecting a long-time tradition would have been a lot higher had the kids watched in their classrooms (where available) or if they had to provide a note from home excluding them from watching. Maybe the next step is to burn books (Nazi Germany); or exclude girls from going to school (Afghanistan); or to predetermine which kids will go to trade schools or earn doctorates based on class and income (Austria). Ignorance is bliss seems to be the new motto for the district. And by keeping the kids unaware or uninformed supports this motto.

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Magpie 4 years, 10 months ago

Only one child from SPE went to the speech because the others were told that their parents had not given prior consent even though the parents didn't know they were supposed to.

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untamedShrewd 4 years, 10 months ago

Hi Magpie, Yes I know the reason only one child went from SPE. Which is why it would have been more appropriate to request parents to submit a note excluding a child from viewing the speech. Not the other way around...Usually the notes my kids bring home I sometimes see only after the fact. I think it is just plain silly to get consent for something as innocent and harmless as the President speaking to students.

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Magpie 4 years, 10 months ago

the thing is they didn't request anything. Parents weren't notified either way, so we didn't know.

As for needing consent to watch the president, I completely agree with you - silly.

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mavis 4 years, 10 months ago

Canyon-- They grow up to vote and for the first few elections they are probably not informed. I work with people that come in the day of election and are soliciting opinions on whom to vote for-- then months later complaining about their taxes and so on. Proof that they grow up to vote and vote for the "wow" factor-- and guess what they are highly educated individuals. Its a bummer kids can't watch the president but doesn't it say something about him if people don't trust what he will say to the youth of America???

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StopTheBrutalChemtrails 4 years, 10 months ago

It's a very good idea to talk about the speech and the controversy surrounding it with the children of the community, here are some other articles about the Obama Administration that would be even more important to discuss with them.

http://www.infowars.com/obama-depopulation-policy-exposed/

www.infowars.com/obamas-change-expanding-the-power-of-the-nsc-and-shadow-government/

www.infowars.com/former-naval-officer-files-criminal-complaint-against-obama/

www.infowars.com/obamas-well-organized-community-is-falling-apart/

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StopTheBrutalChemtrails 4 years, 10 months ago

Have you talked to your children about the three buildings in New York at the World Trade Center that fell down on 9/11? what a tragedy, all of those citizens of all of those countries that died in those three buildings of the Trade Center at the hands of those evil terrorists, I wonder how many of the victims were children. I guess that was the start of our terrorism fears here in America. The start of all of our ongoing wars, the rapid disintegration of our individual rights, the beginning of the end of our economy and our currency. And now king Obama is bringing the change he promised, fast and furious, too. Things sure don't look good for this country right now, in case you haven't noticed. All because of those three buildings in New York, Gee, I wonder if anyone will ever be prosecuted for that horrendous atrocity.

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kathy foos 4 years, 10 months ago

O.K. Everyone was happy with the content of the speech,This Time that is. The point being that what if there were some things in there that didnt pass the test.I agree with Chuck. Its not the content but the idea that school is no place for the political arena,or religon .Its a true statement where one child said she would have listened if it concerned the class she was taking .Every one in their lives tells kids to do right,now the president brings it on home again only with home work Sorry I too believe it is a shot at getting future democratic voters Cheap Shot ,

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jimmmmmm 4 years, 10 months ago

Sun-So should teachers stay away from the Gettysburg Address when teaching history? Can any of you right wingnutters admit your being ridiculous? Or would Glen Beck be upset with you if you admitted it?

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Chuck McConnell 4 years, 10 months ago

jimmmmm

We are not right wingnutters. That is a really a cheap shot and name calling has no place in a civil discussion.

I hope you can see the difference between history and present. Lincoln can be discussed in light of what he said and the outcome of his actions. Obama is here and now and is trying to influence future policy. The schools are no place for this. Again, his words were fine but insinuating himself into the classroom and the implicit support his presence on school television conveys has no place in our society -- not for him or any other current political figure.

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StopTheBrutalChemtrails 4 years, 10 months ago

Jimmmmmm's been drinking LOTS of the good Steamboat toxic fluoridated water, keep drinking, jimmmmmm, it sure is gooooood water, isn't it?

Scientific Study Finds Horror Stories Factual www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january...

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seeuski 4 years, 10 months ago

In honor of jimmmmmmmmm I have found some evidence as to where a portion of some peoples mistrust of Obama comes from. I will keep from any return name calling though.

There is no way left wing teachers would ever do such things. Well....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM45kYAKyCU&feature=related

And this is what happens if you don't support Obama in class. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDhYEMpv7Ng

.....It is unfortunate that the racial divide seems to be worse than ever before and I am appalled at the headline on the video's opening but it most likely is out of anger at such horrible treatment that the student was put through.

In the extreme case. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8WdmLmcNG4

Sorry but this is too eerily similar to pass up on. It is appalling what people will do to their kids and how they will use them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL...

How does this all tie in to little ole Steamboat? An organization closely involved with ACORN, Americorps, has employed College age adults to mentor local High School kids here in Steamboat and part of their agenda is political as the young Gentleman told me. Parents have a right to be concerned about what their children are being confronted with in school especially when there is so much evidence of less than innocuous activities occurring around the Country. Had Bush had this kind of activity conducted in his name everyone would be concerned including me.

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StopTheBrutalChemtrails 4 years, 10 months ago

"An organization closely involved with ACORN, Americorps, has employed College age adults to mentor local High School kids here in Steamboat and part of their agenda is political as the young Gentleman told me." Eeeeek, that's scary, don't worry about it though, Barak has everything under control, just go back to work, nothin' t' see here. Your government loves you and will protect you. Your government cares about you and would never do anything to harm you. Those "mentor"s are put there to help your children and to teach them the importance of learning since all school-aged child have horrible parents that don't teach basic values to their children. I'm sure all of the parents on here will agree that they are all bad parents that have horrible parenting skills and are not doing a good enough job of teaching their children well. Since you can't do it, Barak will do it for you, and he'll do a real good job of it, too.

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StopTheBrutalChemtrails 4 years, 10 months ago

OMG, that last one is powerful. BARACK OBAMA KIDS AND HITLER YOUTH SING FOR THEIR LEADER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL...

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Duke_bets 4 years, 10 months ago

StopChem - Although your post was full of sarcasm, you have a valid point. Today's young adults are well beneath averages in all aspects of academics and athletics when compared to those from 10+ years ago.

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seeuski 4 years, 10 months ago

The public school kids yes, but not the private school kids. It costs twice as much to educate a kid in public school as it does in private school and for what?

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jimmmmmm 4 years, 10 months ago

Chuck-your right, way right. I'll do my best to be civil, but I think your requests for civility might be better served in a letter or email to Rep. Joe Wilson. I'll stop the name calling-you shouldn't be so sensitive.

What I'm reading in this forum is somewhat disturbing (not that I disagree with some of what is being said), but I still strongly believe those of you who are so against Obama's message are completely making something out of nothing. Which is a good tactic, as your fears are actually giving merit to your argument, even though the argument is ridiculous, in my opinion. Again I ask, what was so political about the speech, and where was the political message. That's all I'm asking. Never was this an agenda promoting tactic, and it is irresponsible to think that there ever was going to be a political message. But most of the posts above refer to the far fetched chance that he was going to indoctrinate the kids. Chuck-when was he trying to influence future policy in the speech?

Chemtrails-I like your style, however you scare me. Not sure if you have kids or not, but I do, and I hope they get to see every president speak in school, regardless of my political leanings. I'm sure many parents will agree, but kids don't always want to listen to what their parents tell them. Sometimes, actually most of the time, giving them the independance to think on their own, is character building. My kids wouldn't want to watch the POTUS speak with me, but if they are given the choice in school, they might want to-or not. That's the choice. It's comical to me that people are so scared of Obama, that this crazy argument even exists. Can someone please tell me, "yeah, we have overreacted to such a positive message." Most of you haters (oops, sorry chuck) won't agree with me, but that speech was good. I'm glad some of the kids got to see it. Again, all positive. Admit it.

Now Seeuski, I watched the links you posted, and your right, there is no place for that in this country. Not sure what it has to do with the speech, but I agree with you, it is appalling. Also, your not the only one who can find a video on youtube.

So you think that only the politically left teachers are dangerous. I'd have to say anyone promoting politics in school is dangerous. Can we agree that the speech was not political? Can you tell me, regardless of what your hero Glen Beck says, that this is all completely ridiculous?

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pamaz 4 years, 10 months ago

Good editorial. Well written and to the point. You are absolutely right it is a sad day when our kids are told they shouldn't listen to the president. It is also sad reading some of the comments to the editorial to realize the amount and venom of conspiracy theorists in our community.The cartoon which depicted the president advising kids to stay in school and study hard so they could end up like these hate filled people who are so busy spewing venom and spreading lies while pushing their personal agendas, was also spot on. Obviously, they don't realize by keeping their kids away from the speech they were indoctrinating the kids with their own political bias.

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seeuski 4 years, 10 months ago

I would say that the redneck teacher you postured as some sort of equalizer to the videos, and there are more, that I posted is a completely different issue. I watched your video and was glad to see this bum got what he deserved but he showed prejudice and hate whereas the videos I showed were abusive to the children, especially the teacher berating the young kids who were supporting McCain. And yea I would say this is all ridiculous that had Obama just made a quick vanilla speech, without the original homework writing personal letters on how to help him succeed and the continuing class work which was to include art etc., this whole brew ha ha wouldn't have happened. If it weren't for Glenn Beck we would still be paying the salary of Van Jones and would have never heard of all the czars like Cass Sunstein, Lloyd,Bloom,Hayes,Stern,Browner and the rest. Or the connections with all of them to the Alliance Group and ACORN. Oh, and ACORN is in the news for the second time in 2 days.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g5ZxJgjHzO_C-1f0H0FHImQwjR2gD9AJTJ1G0 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549001,00.html

So I will watch Beck continue to peel the onion and expose this Administration because after all I have to survive in this country too and would like to know what the President is up to. He did promise to have a transparent Administration didn't he? It's almost Czar hour so see ya.

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Chuck McConnell 4 years, 10 months ago

jimmmmmm,

I understand your points and I acknowledged above that Obama's message was a good one.

It's hard to understand, though, why you cannot acknowledge that Obama has surrounded himself with the far, far left (please see my earlier posting). His agenda (the one he is now trying to implement, not the one people voted for) does not fit the majority of Americans who are center right. Right now, for example, the majority of Americans do not approve of his handling of health care reform. Appearing in school only lends credability to him and his agenda and I do not think that is appropriate.

For the record, I also would not be in favor of a Republican president speaking to students. If the goal is truly to deliver a positive message to kids, why not use a non-political highly respected widely know speaker? I would vote for Tiger Woods, MJ, a decorated soldier, Bill Gates (who is giving billions of his own dollars to help people help themselves) or any number of others.

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Jeff_Kibler 4 years, 10 months ago

pamaz - "Obviously, they don't realize by keeping their kids away from the speech they were indoctrinating the kids with their own political bias."

I'll be right over to indoctrinate your kids with my political bias. Obviously, as a parent, you are not qualified to raise your children as you see fit.

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jimmmmmm 4 years, 10 months ago

Wow Kibler-straight for the kill. Pretty harsh. Chuck, your right, he has surrounded himself with some far lefties, but I'm not surprised, nor am I worried. I may not know much about these people, but what I have read, doesn't scare me much. They aren't making the desicions. Van Jones is probably a heck of a lot more dangerous to the political right in whatever his new endevours will be, than an Obama Admin. Czar. I'm not sure it would matter much at all if they were all given their walking papers. And as far as the POTUS changing his agenda from the one that was voted for, I'm confused. What has changed? I'm not playing dumb here (go for it Seeuski), I would truly like to hear what has changed.

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Jeff_Kibler 4 years, 10 months ago

jimmmmmm - "you shouldn't be so sensitive." Your own words. My comment was harsh, perhaps. Appropriate? Totally! I read the transcript of the speech and I found it innocuous. Two of my kids watched it, one didn't. We don't have cable, so I don't watch Beck or Olberman or whomever. We get a few channels via the internet. However, Jim, methinks it was much ado about nothing. Wow! Perhaps we agree!

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jimmmmmm 4 years, 10 months ago

Thank you Kibler! Now if Seeuski could do the same, then I'd really be impressed (but I think he's in the middle of a Glen Beck tirade).

As far as being appropriate-not a chance.

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seeuski 4 years, 10 months ago

I did respond to you jimmmmmmmmm in my last post, if Obama had just given a standard do well in school speech from the start no problem, but that is not was on the agenda. And don't you ever fear the day when you, as an American, will not have a source for any real time news about what our Government is involved in? The news story about ACORN in Baltimore is a prime example, not one media source other than FOX news has run the story. ACORN receives tax money and there is a huge scandal involving extreme legal issues and this same group will be managing the coming census. You have to admit it jimmmmmmm corruption by the Government being ignored by a complicit media is dangerous to a so called free society, is it not? I'll wait.....

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Jeff_Kibler 4 years, 10 months ago

Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I simply agreed with one point vis-a-vis the Obama speech. Help, Mr. Wizard, please elaborate how my rebuttal was inappropriate. Note that nutter was not contained in my comments.

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jimmmmmm 4 years, 10 months ago

I was refering to your comment about indoctinating pamaz's kids and not being qualified to raise kids. Harsh-a little bit, appropriate-not even close. You can call me Jim, or Jimmmmmmm.

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jimmmmmm 4 years, 10 months ago

Seeu-the hate-ski (sorry for the name calling, it's fun),

There you go again, refering to Obama's original speech. Which one was that again? The one where the lesson plan created asked the kids to become liberals, and how to help Obama with the liberal agenda? Oh that one. Like I said, creating something out of nothing. But hell, why not. It's seems to be working for the only source of real news. Hey, when Glen Beck was peeling that onion, did he cry?

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jimmmmmm 4 years, 10 months ago

Brutal-Political only to those who want to politicize, which is what has happened. Sounds like that water you were talking about really tooks it's toll on your meaty noggin.

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StopTheBrutalChemtrails 4 years, 10 months ago

Oh, I see, he's only a political figure if you want him to be, that makes as much sense as WTC building 7 falling totally and completely into it's own footprint, from a couple of small office fires, at the speed of gravity. Maybe Obama's 20 minutes would have been better spent having a little chat with charlie sheen about some real issues that affect children around the world.

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Rob Douglas 4 years, 10 months ago

StopTheBrutalChemtrails: If you want to debate the merits of the President's policies or even the character of the man himself, have at it. But, your racist language has no place in this forum or, frankly, this community. It is indicative of the fact that at heart your nothing more than a punk.

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StopTheBrutalChemtrails 4 years, 10 months ago

It doesn't matter what color Obama is and it doesn't matter what color you or I are, either, black, white, red, yellow green, orange, purple. Between all of the bailouts and the health bill and the gun bill and the climate bill and the hate bill and all of the others that this administration miraculously pulled out of thin air, our county is in for some very difficult times ahead.

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seeuski 4 years, 10 months ago

I watch this wacko video of the 9/11 conspiracy clan and it angers me because I was at the scene on 9/11 at the pentagon just hours after and the next day and for several days thereafter and for these nut jobs to say that no plane was flown into that building is sick, I saw the damage and I have friends who were on Rt. 395 and saw the plane fly into the building. My cousin had a life long classmate from Potomac MD that perished on that flight. Tomorrow is a day of remembrance for those that died and their loved ones who grieve and it should remain a day to remember 9/11 and not some stupid PC day of service. God bless America.

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jimmmmmm 4 years, 10 months ago

Thanks Seeuski.

Brutal-You like eating paint chips? Maybe while your out behind the barn, having a smoke, you see those tasty little colorful chips of paint on the ground. Maybe just a couple-no you had a handful didn't you.

And what the f**k is Oreobama? You should be banned for that stupid crap. I take back what I said earlier about liking your style. I hate your style freak.

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upstream 4 years, 10 months ago

wow. there we go, the hatespeakers are finally starting to really out themselves. stop it already with the brutal chemicals- i think we've all had enough of your poison.

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canyonwind 4 years, 10 months ago

mavis and JLM

      I know these kids will vote some day they may even  help their favorite elephant or donkey get elected but I would guess that they won't be brainwashed by what Obama had to say.  I think Republicans need to pull their head out of that smelly dark place and sit back and score big on what Obama is doing wrong.  He is in the process of naming a Czar by the name of Cass Sunstein, this is a guy who thinks HUNTING SHOULD BE BANED. Obama won alot of RED states by running as a moderate.  However he has turned out to be  way out on the left.  He would not of won any Rocky Mountain States if he ran  hard left and if this Sunstein czar bans hunting and Obama rams health care through that would pay for illegal alliens Obama could even lose California and you can't win the White house just by winning all the state in the North East. Obama could be a one term President.
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kathy foos 4 years, 10 months ago

Jimmmmmmuhhhm, I do admit that there is not that big of a deal that happened, but to me its the principle of the thing so,its great to hash this all around,straight up he shouldnt go to school.No one else can,what if Arnold Swartzinager{s.p.?) decides next week to do it or something similar?Or one group gets left out doing it so more problems, than there could creep in more of this and it is distracting from the very thing that he is trying to achieve,by setting a precedence for others to get equal time. Or maybe he feels powerful because he is the only one allowed to do it,and people just dont pay enough attention over dinner,so lets get to them at school where they are required by law to listen.You are wrong to think I dont want the Gettysburg Address Taught, Im old school and memorized it,my relitives fought to free slaves,and yes the oldest relatives of mine in this country probably helped make slavery in the first place ,just like alot of other peoples realitives did,point being that they saw that it was wrong and gave trhier lives to change it ,what more could they do to write the wrong.Who would have ever thought that people could stop seeing the sacrifices that came with that awfull warT.Totally no appreciation to this day,Ill bet the actual slaves who were freed at the time knew the horror and gave them a little respect for righting a wrong.Yeah I like Obama ,But dont like what he did here,hard to believe thati have the right to say that ,its great and you peole are all great ,That is what keeps everthing on the straight and narrow.P.S. In my day the only presidential address ever remembered was J.F.K. dying I was in math I will never forget it..Maybe that was why its so shocking to announce to a school,from a president.I still say that keep all politics out except what the books already teach,By the way Im probably just jealous that I didnt get aclass action message for myself there is always next week.Also doest he have work to do besides preaching,A good economy will do more to help the kids when they graduate as any pep talk.

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Chuck McConnell 4 years, 10 months ago

jimmmmm,

"Middle class Americans will not have one thin dime of tax increases" -- campaign promise.

Reality: Obama's health care plan will cost everyone who pays taxes, more in taxes. The carbon tax, "cap-and-trade" horror story will cost everyone in the country -- even that 40 percent or so that do not contribute anything to the country much less taxes -- in their heating and cooling bills. Yeah, that might not be a "tax", but it is a TAX.

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Chuck McConnell 4 years, 10 months ago

jmmmmmm,

Tnx. I will bet you and I could design a health care reform plan that would solve most of the problems we both agree need to be fixed and not break the budget.

Regards

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Mike Heineke 4 years, 10 months ago

Chemtrail: Where were you brought up? You must have had parents that cared very little about any positive direction they could have given a child. You should have a freind, teacher, or someone with insight read back whatyou have written. You havn't a clue! You are not part of any solution and never will be. Stay off the chemicals DUDE...

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mavis 4 years, 10 months ago

Canyon- with any luck he will only hold office for one term- but at waht cost to the US? What damage will be done by his power? If he bans hunting he deserves a massive revolt by the American People. My point is -- numerous people are surprised on this "new stance" he is taking. My problem is they weren't educated voters- the NRA opposed Obama from the beginning and warned of massive ammo shortages and risks to our rights to have guns and hunt. But people voted for him anyway- I even know numerous avid hunters that voted for him- and I wonder how many people are out there that would give anything to have their vote back--

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canyonwind 4 years, 10 months ago

Mavis

      I agree, 1 term may take 3 terms to undo if anything can be undone.  I just hope for a power shift in 2010, if the GOP can take the House and Senate that would put the brakes on all these far left bills coming down the pike.  Wall st Main st and those in business favor this form of gridlock and that alone could help the economy out alot.  And yes I know a few lifetime NRA members that voted for Obama and I have some friends out in Cali that cast their first democrate vote this past November plus have you noticed there are alot fewer Obama stickers on cars; a little voter remorse???  Alot of these Tea Party folks voted for Obama. Many voter were just very mad about the economy and got change but not what they were hoping for.  Obama is a very smart man and he may think or even have data that he will be down the road in 2012.  Thank god I voted for Bob Barr
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Troutguy 4 years, 10 months ago

Obama's going to ban hunting??!! Really??!! Where's this shortage of ammunition??!! Can guns still be purchased anywhere in the U.S.??!! WOW!! Please keep this drivel coming. Pure comedy!

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seeuski 4 years, 10 months ago

Well, Cass Sunstein was just confirmed by the Senate as Obama's new Regulatory czar and according to Judge Andrew Napolitano he will have the ability to manipulate or tweak laws that could create legal issues for things like hunting, farming, ranching etc.

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seeuski 4 years, 10 months ago

I wouldn't be except for the fact that Obama has promised to "fundamentally change" this country and with the recent troubles his friends are in, like Van Jones and ACORN, along with all the other nut jobs he associates with I think Sunstein will act on his goofy instincts. No I'm not paranoid just convinced of their stated agenda goals.

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mavis 4 years, 10 months ago

Troutguy-- when was the last time you went to buy ammo-- I kept hearing about it and thought people were exagerating but when we were getting prepared for hunting season it is absolutely crazy everywhere we went the shelves are practically bare and in most spots they are limiting the number of boxes of personal protection ammo you can buy

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mavis 4 years, 10 months ago

windle- my bad I should clarify I was in a town that was not 90% vegeterians and anti hunting when we were looking for ammo-- good thing wal - mart has it I will let my husband know so we can get what we need.

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canyonwind 4 years, 10 months ago

Hey everybody a little good news to report and it is good for all of Routt County and other Western slope towns. The US Census has told ACORN they can not do ANY counting in 2010. Many were worried that they would over count in large cities where they are located and under count in the mostly rural areas like Northwest Colorado. ACORN has no problem counting illegals and homeless and inflating the count in order to get more Congressional seats in or as close to big cities as possible. There is more like minded ACORN types in big cities than in ski towns on the western slope. In 2000 Utah should have got a seat due to population increase and New York lost one however by counting illegals the seat went to LA county in California. You think ACORN had a office in that then new congressional district???? And when the census comes, get counted the last thing we need is to become part of a DENVER congressional district.

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