John Salazar: Health care reform good for state

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U.S. Rep. John Salazar, D-Manassa

In the past year, I’ve communicated with thousands of constituents throughout Colorado’s Third Congressional District, many from the Steamboat Springs area. Most of them have asked for more affordable health care for their families and their friends. With these marching orders, I’ve been in the trenches in the nation’s capital fighting for health care reform that actually will create a real, noticeable benefit in all of our lives.

Recently, the House passed HR 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act. The bill holds great promise for the nation as a whole, and it offers particular benefits for rural areas like Colorado’s Third Congressional District and northwest Colorado.

As drafted, this bill would immediately end discrimination for pre-existing medical conditions, prevent Americans from being dropped from coverage if they become sick, eliminate co-pays for preventive care, place yearly caps on what someone pays, and eliminate waste, fraud and overpayments to private insurance companies.

In Colorado’s Third Congression­al District, it is estimated that the Affordable Health Care for America Act will improve employer-based coverage for 362,000 residents, provide credits to help pay for coverage for as many as 184,000 households, improve Medicare for 106,000 beneficiaries, allow 25,200 small businesses to obtain affordable health care coverage, provide tax credits to help reduce health insurance costs for as many as 24,400 small businesses, provide coverage for 111,000 uninsured residents, protect as many as 900 families from bankruptcy because of unaffordable health care costs and reduce the cost of uncompensated care for hospitals and health care providers by $152 million.

One of the biggest misconceptions about this bill is that it’s going to add to our national debt over the next 10 years. I’m a fiscal conservative, a proud Blue Dog Democrat, and I’ve vowed to reject a bill that would increase our national debt. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that during 10 years this bill will reduce our national deficit by $109 billion.

Another misconception about the bill is that it would cut basic services that Medicare provides. Opponents of this bill have been running misleading television commercials that give that impression. The Affordable Health Care for America Act would cut wasteful administrative costs from running Medicare, which is a good thing and is long overdue. Actually, this bill would improve the basic services Medicare provides. It would provide free preventive care and wellness check-ups for seniors. It would eliminate the prescription drug “doughnut hole” coverage gap that exists today. It would reduce medical errors for seniors with conditions such as high blood pressure and diabetes and it would extend Medicare’s financial solvency.

One of my proudest accomplishments is getting a provision in HR 3962 that would allow rural doctors to negotiate the rate they are reimbursed by the federal government for treating patients through a public option. This is a huge win, and I’m proud to have helped make it happen. Another part of this bill that I fought for was the ability to allow the Secretary of the Health and Human Services Department to negotiate prescription drug prices with manufactures — a move that would save us billions of dollars.

It has become clear to the majority of Americans that the current health care system is in need of significant reform. We all know someone who has had health problems big or small sometime in their life. But for too long, the health insurance companies have wrongly denied coverage to those who have suffered; to those who need it the most.

This bill will end that disgraceful practice and will bring the promise of affordable health care to those who have suffered without it for too long. I look forward to the legislation that will come out of the Senate. Together, we will provide health care affordability for all Americans.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Health care is a public funded issue regardless of how it is funded. If we take care of the workers and nurture our people then we can all live a relatively healthy life. If Joe Blow, (a foreign commercial conglomerate), puts in a toxic dump or what will become a Superfund site next to Elvira's house and her family gets cancer, why should she be responsible to pay for the treatment? We have to decompartmentalize our thinking about our culture. One thing done here affects everything else eventually. Thank you John Salazar for working toward a solution.

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seeuski 5 years ago

Bogus talking points. It would take too many key strokes to properly address the foibles of this Congressman's canned statement. But for one Mr. Congressman, why haven't you taken care of the waste in Medicare already? Anyone can google search Medicare fraud and read the many cases of fraud that has been a problem for years. I guess handing over the rest of the health care system to the Bureaucrats will take care of it. Why haven't you addressed tort reform? The lawyers and SEIU are very happy. Take a good look at California's woes because that is where we are headed as a country, Bankruptcy.

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Taxpayingvoter 5 years ago

I would like the congressman to explain how the government can run health care when it is a dismal failure at social security, medicare, medicade, Amtrak, (now there's talk of a post office bailout) and virtually every enterprise it undertakes?

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Ask France. They are number 1 in the world for health their care system. Check their system out and you will be amazed at how great it is compared to ours.

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JLM 5 years ago

"Another part of this bill that I fought for was the ability to allow the Secretary of the Health and Human Services Department to negotiate prescription drug prices with manufacturers — a move that would save us billions of dollars."

In 1987, the Pentagon purchased 54 toilet bowl seats from Lockheed for an average price of $640 per toilet bowl seat. This was during the Reagan administration. The toilet bowl seats were for the Orion P-3C, an antisubmarine aircraft.

Reagan made this public during a press conference as an abuse of government spending after which the Pentagon re-negotiated the contract with Lockheed who reduced their price down to $100 each.

Price originally negotiated by the government --- $640 each.

After unleashing the full, unfettered negotiating powers of the Pentagon --- $100 each.

The fair, free market value of the toilet bowl seats --- $9 each. ONE TENTH OF THE FINAL NEGOTIATED PRICE!

So, allow just a smidgen of skepticism on my part as to the effectiveness of the government "negotiating" directly with drug manufacturers as a means of saving money and funding the cost of this health care program.

But, hey, it could just be me! Maybe they've gotten really, really good at negotiating since 1987. LOL

Are you that stupid?

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JLM 5 years ago

"As drafted, this bill would immediately ...... eliminate waste, fraud and overpayments to private insurance companies."

If waste, fraud and overpayments to private insurance companies are so easily identified, why does it take THIS BILL to elminate them?

Why hasn't this already been done, if it is so freakin' easy?

There is a simplistic Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny quality to such an absurd platitude.

Color me skeptical but how do the folks who have allowed waste, fraud and overpayments to private insurance companies ELIMINATE them and so simply? By just passing this bill?

Are you that stupid? Really?

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JLM 5 years ago

"One of my proudest accomplishments is getting a provision in HR 3962 that would allow rural doctors to negotiate the rate they are reimbursed by the federal government for treating patients through a public option."

Pretty good deal for doctors but how does this have any favorable impact on the extension of care or the quality of health care.

This provision simply increases the magnitude of payment to rural doctors on the theory that because of their rural nature their costs of health care delivery are higher than an urban doctor. Some suggest this is a specious argument. Who knows for sure?

But, for goodness sake, how does reimbursing a rural doctor for health care treatment IMPROVE the affordability of health care?

Are you that stupid? Huh?

Or, maybe, it's the PUBLIC OPTION???

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JLM 5 years ago

Just as no serious energy policy fails to give nuclear power a seat at the discussion table, no serious health care reform fails to address the issue of tort reform.

I am not even suggesting that it be adopted, I am simply suggesting it needs to be thrown into the discussion.

If an effort were seriously attempting to create "affordable" health care, would it completely ignore tort reform? Wouldn't it at least include a "dash" or a "pinch" of tort reform? Would it completely and absolutely ignore it?

Are you that stupid? Really?

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JLM 5 years ago

Man, I am really excited about the prospect of government run health care! Oh boy, oh boy! Can't wait!

Hmm, I wonder what part of the government it will be just like?

Hmm, I wonder what part of the government it will be just like?

Uhhh, maybe the IRS? Hmmm, that's not too good.

OK, maybe the ICE? Hmmm, that's not too good either.

OK, maybe the...

Hmmm, maybe the administration of the entire health care system --- 17% of the US economy --- should not be entrusted to the government because no government entity is very good at running business entities. If you like the IRS, you are going to love Obamacare.

Well, maybe they can get Costco to administer it? LOL

Are you that stupid? Really?

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trump_suit 5 years ago

Regardless of the venom thrown out by some posters on this issue, John Salazaar makes some excellent points about healthcare reform.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

France's health care system is number 1. Let's just copy them. Then nobody should have any complaints , Right????

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seeuski 5 years ago

No health care system in the world is better than ours, period. As a recipient of and witness of others to our system, I can honestly say I would not want to be anywhere but here in the USA for my medical needs. If clearsky hates this country so much because of our health care and our destroy the earth philosophy than she should move to France. Au revoir my friend.

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MrTaiChi 5 years ago

Does memory fail or did over a thousand elderly Frenchmen die a few summers ago in a heat wave because the physicians and medical personnel who would have treated them at Paris hospitals were on vacation, one of those mass closedowns of their country when all the Gauls migrate to the Mediterranean like so many lizards warming themselves in the sunshine? C'est la vie, (pardon my French).

Nice to be a Frenchman. They have a law that punishes working more than thirty hours a week. No room for Anglo-Saxon enterprise in a socialist state. With Socialists, the perfection of humanity is always a work in progress- a little more regulation here, a little more prohibition there, and your working toward the perfect man, happy to be cared for like a dog on a leash.

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JLM 5 years ago

Mr Tai Chi, never was more said with fewer words. Pretty damn..........................................................................................................clever!

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jimmmmmm 5 years ago

Just curious....why, when your brilliant party had control of the White House and both the Senate and Congress (for how many years?), wasn't anything accomplished regarding health care reform?

Are you that stupid, really?

I'll ask again, are you that stupid? I think you are you hipocritical venom spewing hate/fear monger.

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jimmmmmm 5 years ago

Oh yeah, you did accomplish tax cuts for the richest Americans, while starting two wars. Brilliant economics there my friend.

Are you really that stupid? I think so.

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Whitney Isabel 5 years ago

Really JLM? You need to stop ripping off Amy Poehler and Seth Meyers. Really.

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JLM 5 years ago

jim & 1/2 wit ---

The brilliance of your arguments is overshadowed only by the perspicaciousness of your prose. LOL

Bad, bad, bad George W Bush. It's all his fault.

Come on, this has nothing to do with the past or George W Bush. I will concede whatever you suggest as it relates to W, if you will just shift your focus to the real world and the here and now. Please.

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jimmmmmm 5 years ago

Oh brilliant one, master of all that is political.

I'm in the real world and don't have a problem with what is happening in the White House. I appreciate the proactive administration, and their policies. You, well just keep up the fear mongering-your local crew of tea partiers needs you.

Again, where was the big tea party, or the simple Tort reform when republicans were in power.

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JLM 5 years ago

What is happening in the WH just now is amateur hour, on the job training, playing golf and shooting hoops, galivanting around the world bowing to foreign heads of state and emperors, projecting one's personality as a pretense for hard diplomacy, state dinners while one in six of our countrymen are out of work, have no real prospects of finding a job and while we are engaged in three wars --- Iraq, A'stan and terror!

Tell me how much you like the WH's mojo when unemployment bubbles up to 20% cause there are no obstacles to that level being erected by anybody just now.

I have no brief or defense for the Republicans. I agree completely with your objections to the quality of their reign. A pox on their house but they are not in charge now, sport.

This is Barack H Obama's hands on the steering wheel and we are headed for the ditch.

You are not offended by an administration which promised the "most transparent administration in history" and allows 2,000 page health care bills to be produced without the benefit of any committee, subcommittee hearings and which fails to allow the entire Congress to read the bill before it is enacted into law?

If so, you are a unthinking stooge and are willing to be used like a hankie.

It is going to get pretty damn ugly before there is a ray of sunlight.

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trump_suit 5 years ago

JLM,

It's only ugly thru your tea party glasses. Take them off and look at the real world and you will see that it is not all that bad.

You have been against WH since he very first announced his candidacy. I believe the direct quote from you would be "fakir, poseur, naif"

Take your bad attitude and bring it out for the election in 2012. You may have a chance by then. For now, you will have to tolerate the majority of us that think healthcare reform is necessary and long overdue.

As to the rest of your complaints, those are normally referred to as '"sour apples" the electorate has spoken and although you have made it perfectly clear that you do not agree with the majority, the rest of us think that WH would be much further along with his agenda if he did not have such a deep pile to clean up from the last administration.

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seeuski 5 years ago

The Republicans DID attempt Tort reform while Bush was President and guess what happened? Anyone? The Democraps quashed it because of what? Anyone? The lawyers Unions. Do we really need to continue making up lies against George W. Bush in order to absolve Obama and his merry Czars in their march towards Marxism and the end of our Constitutional Democracy? I can start reposting all the proof of what Saddam Hussein was involved with and I can also post all the proof of the Barney Fwank and Chris Dodd usage of the Fannie/Freddie money pitt that got us into this mess. I am curious though how the Global Warming crowd feels about the newly discovered proof that we are being scammed. I am also wondering how the Obamanites explain the fact that Obama has outspent George W. Bush 2 to 1 in his first year and has nothing to show for it but a lot of lip service. But I will prepare for the usual talking points via Olberman, Bush ruined everything and Obama was left to clean it up. Great fiction.

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trump_suit 5 years ago

With all due respect, torte reform is NOT healthcare reform, it is only one tiny piece of a large puzzle.

I looked at your glacier pics, and if you match apples to apples, season to season, the result is undeniably that the glaciers are shrinking almost everywhere. THere are one or two exceptions that were predicted in the models. The overwhelming evidence says the ice is going away......... Have you looked at killamanjaro larely?

Won't argue with you about spending habits unless you include all of the costs that were incurred in two wars left unfinished.

Both parties are equally (get it equally) responsible for the tarp fiasco and the financial crisis. There is plenty of blame to spread around there.

Just cannot agree with yuou when you go on your glen beck marxist rants. You are so far out there that it is not even possible to argue with you. You would have to come back to some sort of reality to even have that discussion.

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seeuski 5 years ago

Who's reality? I quote...."torte reform is NOT healthcare reform" You have your opinions and desires and I have mine. I DO NOT want the Government with it's track record taking over 1/5th of the economy in the form of health care and slowly handing it over to the SEIU. And as far as the Ice Caps, "EDITORIAL: Hiding evidence of global cooling" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/ "Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'? " http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/ http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2188feb3-802a-23ad-4de4-3fbc0a92e126&Issue_id

Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Hmmm.. Beck or Olberman? Who do I trust? That's a difficult one, NOT!!!!!!!! We shall see in 2010 and 2012 whether you or I are more mainstream in our beliefs trump. Now go ski.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

France has the number 1 health care system in the world , US is 41st. This is factual. Number 1 is number 1. Say all you want . FRANCE is number 1 in health care. Let's copy FRANCE's system and put an end to all this bickering.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

There is a difference between health care treatment and healthcare system. That may be part of the confusion. US may may be able to offer the best health care treatment but only to those who can get it.- Those in the US government health care system or those who have Insurance coverage that does not get "rescinded" after diagnosed.

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jimmmmmm 5 years ago

Hey Seeuski,

You shouldn't believe everything Glenn Beck tells you.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200911250005

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Jeff_Kibler 5 years ago

mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm

George Soros and media matters.

I'd rather get my facts from Satan and Pravda.

BTW, I've never watched Glenn Beck.

http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/25/roseanne-barr-confirms-bon-bon-shock-admission-acorn-got-obama-elected/

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seeuski 5 years ago

Your right jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

I'll get my info from you and clearsky from now on then I'll walk around believing things like raising taxes during an economic crisis is the right thing to do, and Obama is the best President of all time and the sky is falling as we melt to death and that France is the best because of socialism and phony health statistics. Yea, that would be pretty dumb as ignoring reality and truth for party politics as the left does is very dangerous for all of us.

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seeuski 5 years ago

And poor jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm has to turn to a partisan web site to protect the Global Warming scam that has been uncovered. This reminds me of Dan Rather getting caught with forged documents but still claiming their was merit to what he wanted the story to mean. Good luck jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

P.S. Enjoy your Thanksgiving veggie roll. You are protecting the environment by going vegan right?

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seeuski 5 years ago

What happened to Roseanne Barrs face? She will pay most of the new health care tax with all that elective surgery. Good post Jeff. I am sure the ACORN defenders will show up again claiming that ACORN is so small that they don't matter. NOT!

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jimmmmmm 5 years ago

Oh, I see. I shouldn't pay much attention to Mediamatters because its a partisan web site. FREAKIN BRILLIANT TEA BAGGERS!!!! What, do you think I'm going to get my politics from Cluster Fox? Yea, that's it-no partisan politics there. Hell, that most of what Media Matters does is debunk the daily Fixed News crap. You watch Glenn Beckerhead, I'll read my median matters. Deal?

Happy Thanksgiving.

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sledneck 5 years ago

France in number one. France is number one, yeah for France!!! What part of Europe are you from? The part whos ass we saved or the part whos ass we kicked?

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seeuski 5 years ago

Curse all you want jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, But we'll see how the Tea Party movement makes a difference in the upcoming elections. We are a movement for the preservation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, how crazy is that? America is waking up to the crap they've been fed by the left. So sorry Beck keeps the heat on Obama and the merry czars but isn't that what old fashioned news media used to do? Ah the good old days.

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seeuski 5 years ago

Here is a non partisan news source for the hopelessly far left.

"Media Matters for America (MMFA), a "Web-based, not-for-profit progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media,"[1] was founded by David Brock in mid-April 2004. Along with former MoveOn consultant Tom Matzzie and John Podesta's Center for American Progress, it is behind Progressive Media, a liberal messaging campaign launched in 2008 and expanded in 2009 to become a 'war room' for promoting the foreign and domestic policies of Barack Obama."

Geeeeeeee jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm seems like a great resource for non partisan info to meeeeeeeeeeeee.

Enjoy a turkey.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Raise taxes on that which is destroying our future - Fossil fuels- TAX the hell out of that which is taking away the future of our children. Our culture is destroying the Earth!!!!!!!!!!

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sledneck 5 years ago

Clearsky, I'm goint to burn an extra tank of gas just for you!... every week. I'm going to leave all my lights on all night, crank up the wood stoves (i have 2 by the way) and leave the windows open all night. When I have that big beetle kill bonfire this winter i'm going to throw old used tires on it just to watch that pretty black smoke roll!

I'm going out right now to pee in the river! Heee Heee Heee!

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Hey sledneck ,I don't even bother reading your remarks because I already know what you are going to say. All I can hope for is someday you find yourself seeking shelter in a snow cave and some dumb sledder drives around and leaves a cloud of poisonous exhaust that seeps down into where you are sleeping and poisons your air like you've been doing to all the innocent creatures that do no harm. You are a part of our future like it or not. If you have offspring they will surely curse you a billion times. Sleep well!

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sledneck 5 years ago

So in your benevolance you find room to wish me poisioned?

True to form, it only takes a little kick to get the pudding out of the peace and love crowd.

Where's the "tolerance"?

Excuse me, I have to pee again.

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mmjPatient22 5 years ago

sledneck- could I convince you to extend an invite to me for the beetle-kill bonfire? I'm a pyromaniac at heart and I've found that beetle-kill makes really cool noises when it's incinerated.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Sledneck- you and the "like minded" are the ones doing the poisoning . Not me.

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seeuski 5 years ago

Clearsky how long have you been a member of ELF?

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Clearsky 5 years ago

seeuski, When will you take responsibility for your actions and attitude?

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Who are the terrorists? The ones that continue to poison the Earth or the ones that want to protect it? In the end we all suffer. I do not belong to any group other than the life force that we are lucky enough to experience.

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sledneck 5 years ago

Oceans will rise and cities fall, Climate change will kill us all.

Little kids we'll have to scare, Talk of dying polar bears.

We're not simply science quacks, Our real goal's to raise your tax.

Cap and trade we wish to pass, Tax your home and car and gas.

Convince 'em that the science's settled, Then with their lives we can meddle.

Don't confuse us with the facts, We demand a carbon tax.

Almost had the masses fooled, Stupid earth it went and cooled.

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sledneck 5 years ago

If people who continue to poison the earth are terrroists then welcome to the camp Clearsky! Congratulations, you are a terrorist! YOU burn the fossil, you wear the scarlet letter "T". Fossil burner is what you are. You can't wean yourself off the fossil can you? You know in your heart your'e killing us all but you can't quit the fossil! Terrorist! Shame on you.

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seeuski 5 years ago

Acknowledgment by clearsky that he/she is a member of the worst earth destroying terrorist group known to man, ELF. Burn down private property because of pure jealousy. Knuckleheads!!

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seeuski 5 years ago

And keep off of our ski lifts, they are for humans.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

seeuski, You are insinuating a falsity of many. You are sick. You are a member of ELF and hiding behind a false shadow. You are a sickness that is trying to spread itself. Clearsky is not and never was a member of ELF. So again YOU ARE WRONG! WRONG and ALways Wrong. How does it feel Because I am laughing at your idiocy.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Again Let's erect a monument for all the names of the people who said "it isn't so." That would be so great because then we will know who to curse. I am doing my best to eliminate the use of carbon based fuels. It is the best I can do . What is the best you can do?

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sledneck 5 years ago

Is it? Is it really? Is that REALLY the most you can cut back? Are you really cutting back? I hope so 'cause otherwise we're as doomed as doomed can be!

I'm going to keep on aggressively using carbon based fuels; thats my strategy.

I appreciate all of you reducing your consumption. The way I see it, with help from people like Bigfoot the fossil-aholic (aka clearsky) we should have the problem under control.

The rest of us can party on! I'm not even going to worry about fuel efficiency 'cause Bigfoots got my back, right Big?

And I get to be on a monument too? That sweetens the pot even more.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Sledneck - You are sick. Everyone who reads what you wrote can obviously see that you are sick. Proves my point that Our culture is destroying the Earth.

Let's build that monument, we can put your name at the top of the list.

Happy hunting to all those who will seek revenge for when the time comes.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

So getting back to Health care system. Why are we doing something other than providing a Number 1 system in the world? Let's copy what France is doing.

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Clearsky 5 years ago

Socialism-A system of social organization by which the major means of production and distribution are managed by the government, by associations of workers, or by the community as a whole. Capitalism-an economic system in which private individuals or groups of individuals own factories, land, and other means of production where they compete with one another using hired labor to produce a profit. Wow-Which has a better chance at altruistic behavior?

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sledneck 5 years ago

Thats an easy question. The answer is capitalism. No contest. Not even close.

Socialism is a race to the bottom. Far more $$$ is given to charity and to help the poor of the world (altruism) through capitalism. Case and point, The USA; we feed the world whether they can pay for it or not.

Communists don't give the world anything. Plus, they are the biggest polluters and abusers of the environment as well as human rights.

When private entities compete they have incentive to raise quality and lower prices and that is exactly what happens. When competition is removed incentive is removed. It becomes a race to see who can do the least since you are never allowed to prosper for your extra effort.

Basically heres what happens under communism: The government sets the price of a loaf of bread at $1 because the poor need bread and we don't want people "proffiting from hunger". (or health care or any thing else if the truth were known) But the bakers can't make a proffit at that price. So, instead they sit behind the bakery drinking vodka. The tag on the grocery store shelf says "bread $1" but there is no bread on the shelf. The poor, hungry "fellow citizen" is forced to buy bread from the black market for $8 or steal or starve. If the private sector were allowed to compete several bakers would say " hey, I can bake bread and sell it for way less than $8 and even make a proffit." So he does! Then another baker sees all the $$$ the first baker is making and says, "hell, I can do it for $6 and still make $$$, so he does. And on it goes till the price is driven down and quality is high. All the while the most amazing thing is happening, the shelves are full to overflowing with bread and the black market dries up.

And it will happen with health care too.

The results of communism are evident to anyone who really wants to know. History boks are filled with examples. Not one time has it worked, NOT ONE. I am disappointed in you bigfoot, not suprised but very disappointed.

Fossil Fossil Fossil

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Clearsky 5 years ago

sledneck You are trying to win a losing argument. Altruistic verses profit for a social system where going for profit does not fit everyone's needs. Stupid is what stupid does what stupid says.

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JLM 5 years ago

Name any socialist country which has a healthy charity/non-profit community?

Name any socialist country in which you personally would like to live?

Name any socialist country which has illegal immigrants willing to risk life and limb to break in to do difficult jobs.

Capitalism has delivered unto our United States the highest standard of living, the fairest courts and the safest society in the world.

Capitalism is not perfect, it just beats the hell out of all the alternatives. Life, liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness. You still gotta get your "pursuit" clothes on.

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sledneck 5 years ago

It's no use JLM, he doesn't have any answers.

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seeuski 5 years ago

Clearsky is panicking while the world learns about the extent of the fraud that the scientists promoting AGW were involved in. Global Warming is a hoax and that makes Clearsky's rants invalid so he/it/she reverts to name calling and threats of retaliation via the totem poll of death. After days of reading these posts it is crystal clear what Clearsky wants in life, other peoples money, free health care and everyone else to live in tents. The trash heap of history is piled high with the ashes of those that bought into the lie of Socialism. And put down those quantum leap videos, they are mushing your brain. Everything is not everything.

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MrTaiChi 5 years ago

Seldneck-

I think you are mistaken. Head-in-the-Clouds sounds female to me, a lot of nurturing feelings, (not that that's a bad thing).

Mark Twain said that there are three increasingly venal level of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. I'd be curious how the 1st/47th ratio was determined and by whom. If you take the underclass out of the equation, I'd bet that the USA would be in the top five. A lot of the statistical rhetoric depends on averaging out the underclass who, of whatever race or ethnicity are unhealthy, largely due to oppositional life choices.

A growing number of Americans are beyond compassion fatigue for them. I think that paying bribes to foreign governments in the form of foreign aid shoud be redirected to the needs of our underclasses, rather than to have the middle class be tapped once again to subsidize pathogenic life styles.

For instance, why should the rest of the country rebuild New Orleans when natural erosion of the delta makes sustaining it untenable? Why didn't the city float bonds to finance levy construction and repair like the rest of the country does for it's infrastructure needs? Too busy having a good time, incompatible with the 'Big Easy' lifestyle?

The current health care bills appear a lot like a zero sum game in which the middle class gets very little in terms of cost control while the underclass gets another government handout courtesy of forced exactions from the rest of us. Wait, wait... here comes the predictable rejoinder, "But we're already paying for them presenting at emergency rooms with drug overdoses, (etc.) and by law the hospitals have to treat them!" Well, like Bob Newhart said in a comedy sketch when a whiny neurotic complained about her fears, "Just stop it!"

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Clearsky 5 years ago

We are doomed! Simple chemistry and Quantum Physics, it explains it all. Everything else is pure folly. Number 1 is number 1 How can anyone argue with number 1? When we are 41 st in the world its like "wake UP!"

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sledneck 5 years ago

"we are doomed"?? Whats up with that, bigfoot? Have you ever heard of the power of positive thinking.One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do, bigfoot.

I think nuclear power will save us! Nuke the jungle (er uh rainforest) to warm the earth to save us all. Warming the earth will allow us to stop burnung fossil fuel for heat! It all makes sense now.

Show me the list with 40 others ahead of us. You should be thankful that we are # 1, not 41. Our technology will save us from fossil heads. We can keep tokin' the fossil with impunity thanks to technology and nuclear fission. Nuke Nuke Nuke & Drill Drill Drill. God Bless America... (but not those other guys)

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Jeff_Kibler 5 years ago

"FRANCE is number 1 in health care. Let's copy FRANCE's system and put an end to all this bickering." - Clearsky

Perhaps just put an end to living ...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CHRS3O3&show_article=1&catnum=0

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