Bob McConnell: John Salazar wrong on issues

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Bob McConnell

— The latest unemployment figures have just been released. Washington has poured billions into stimulus packages. Recall that on Feb. 7 of last year, John Salazar “hailed” the stimulus package, saying, “I hope the president signs this bill to send the message that help is on the way.” “Trust us,” we have been told. “Help is on the way. We know how to create good green jobs. Help is on the way.”

So, what was the news today? Roll the drums, sound the trumpets. Well, the news is not good. Help has not arrived. Unemployment has now reached 10.2 percent, the highest since April 1983. Unemployment among our veterans is 11.3 percent. Those of you who no longer have jobs in our timber, oil, natural gas, and coal industries, take heart. Green jobs are coming — someday. Help is on the way. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama has announced he will encourage Congress to extend unemployment benefits, again. 

The answer to record-breaking unemployment is not another stimulus package, and it is not spending more money on unemployment benefits. The answer to unemployment is to turn loose the private sector right here in Western Colorado to create jobs. As recently as 2008, almost 78 percent of the jobs in Colorado were in the private sector. If I were your congressman today, I would go to Obama and get an exception to his roadless initiative so we can log the 2 million acres of dead trees we have north of Interstate 70. He already has granted that exception for Alaska. Instead of asking for an exception, Salazar applauded Obama’s return to roadless mismanagement of our Bureau of Land Management and National Forest lands.

We need a congressman who will say, “Mr. President, the trees are dead. Let us create jobs cutting logging roads, cutting dead trees, hauling dead trees, milling dead trees, selling lumber and hauling lumber.” The trees are dead. The question is, do we create jobs cutting them, or do we let them fall on hundreds of miles of high power lines? Do we let them fall on and kill hikers and skiers and snow machine drivers, all of whom spend money enjoying these sports? Or do we just let them burn? How long do we watch jobs in our coal, oil and natural gas industries leave Western Colorado, taking with them the motels and housing, and supermarkets and restaurants that supported those jobs?

We need a congressman with the courage to stand up for working people over dead trees, smelts and pale sturgeons. Instead, we have a congressman who on May 15, 2007, celebrated protecting “sensitive and pristine” areas in the Roan Plateau. And then, he had the incredible gall to add, “Postponing development of this one area will not endanger our economic or energy future.” Tell that to the miners on unemployment today, Mr. Salazar. We need a congressman with the courage to stand up for working people who have the skills and the determination to feed their families. Instead, just three weeks ago, Salazar introduced a bill to expand the size of wilderness areas in Western Colorado. Wake up, John. We don’t need more wilderness areas right now; we need jobs.

I am Bob McConnell, the Cowboy Colonel. Nobody owns me, and they never will. I will stand up for you, the people of Western Colorado.

Steamboat Springs resident Bob McConnell is a Republican running for the 3rd Congressional District seat in the U.S. House of Representatives.

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BoatNative 4 years, 5 months ago

Mr. McConnell,

I deeply respect that you are for running for public office, especially for the US House of Representatives. It is a noble and incredible task and I wish you the best.

However, you chose to "introduce" yourself to the voters of Routt County and the third congressional district by devoting your entire column to logging the dead trees north of I-70? Yes, it is an important issue, but is this your platform? There is nothing else in this article that proves you to be more apt than Congressman Salazar to bring jobs back to the Western Slope. And you talk about green jobs, but how is cutting down all the beatle-kill trees a green job? You simply say that we need to log the trees away. What are we going to do with them? Do you believe there is a way to plan a green solution on how to recycle these trees or put them to some practical use? There is, and that debate should be going on in Congress because it would provide long-term economic benefit by creating permanent jobs instead of a one-time project of cutting the trees down and hauling them away to a place you fail to identify.

By the way, I wouldn't ever use the line "we don't need more wilderness areas right now" when campaigning for the seat of the third congressional district of Colorado. It may win you some votes on the far right, but the voters from this majority independent district, from Pueblo to Grand Junction to Steamboat, absolutely do not agree with that statement.

Good Luck Mr. McConnell.

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Clearsky 4 years, 5 months ago

Our culture is destroying the Earth. Trees die and give back to the soil allowing a stronger base for the forest. Removing them and trying to make money from them is a folly. The government ends up paying more for the process then what can be made from the sale of the timber. Our culture is poisoning and destroying the Earth. What good is an economy when our Earth is destroyed. Our time is running out and everyone keeps driving and believing that it will just work out on its own. Our culture is destroying the Earth.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

Human suffering is growing all around us and we have people promoting the fable that the earth is warming because of our activities. We are told that if we don't panic immediately we won't have snow cover here in northern Colorado in the next few decades. Scientists are stepping up and speaking out as the judge in England did when he found 9 big lies in Al Gores big fat lie of a movie. We can all live greener and keep our environment cleaner but we don't have to stop breathing, eating or driving to do it. As far as the dead trees that Bob speaks of in this article, we shall see who had the foresight when we live through the next huge forest fires that are sure to come. It is practical to use our existing resources while expanding on the technologies of the future which may prove fruitful down the road. We need to save our existing jobs and expand on the new technologies that may create new era jobs as we proceed. That's what I believe Bob is saying and he is not paying us lip service from the Pelosi/Obama squad. Spread your own wealth if you want to through cap and tax, but I need to eat and pay my mortgage. And our culture is not destroying the earth, the US EPA has done great things over the decades to change our technologies for the better. Do it here cleaner or the Chinese and the Indians etc, will do it dirty because global demand is growing. Oh and one last thing, be careful who you trust with the environment because Obama is investing billions of our dollars for offshore drilling in Brazil.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Our culture is destroying the Earth. People say "Oh No!" The Earth's going to end anyway so let's just keep doing what we're doing until then. If we all understood Quantum Physics and SIMPLE chemistry we would all understand the process of Global warming. The ice caps are MELTING DUHHH! Can it be any clearer? Our culture is destroying the Earth. Everyone thinks as long as someone is making money that it is good. That is our culture. The industrial society is UNSUSTAINABLE! LOOK how much damage in 100 or so years compared to the 100,000 years humans have lived here or the 12000 years of the Native Americans. You hate the people and the ideas that are true because they remind you that what I say is true. Our culture is destroying the planet.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

No I feel sorry for you because you are living a lie. You therefore are hateful to your fellow man and seek their demise through a natural die off or extinction. Everyone of course, but you and a few believers. The ice caps are not melting they have been growing and the earth has been on a cooling trend for 11 years. Purposely false computer programs were used to measure mean temperatures that produced the hockey stick theory and that goofball had to change his calculations and rhetoric. It has also been proven that NASA used false temp readings in the data used by the IPCC in their big report. Sadly some hackers got into the computers of AGW fake scientists and have discovered the long term scam that has been perpetuated against the people of the world. We don't hate Mother Earth, we need Mother Earth. But we need to have the truth. We can live cleaner but we can live.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Seeuski You need to reread what I wrote and what you wrote. If our industrial system is destroying our ability to survive on Earth and you support it then you are promoting our extinction. No Earth No people. The ice caps are melting . Russia is expanding their claim and ships can pass through the Northern "icecap" now in the summer because the ice is gone. But you are saying "no it's not" You agree with yourself so you must be right or you agree with others that agree with you? That is your logic. That is the basis of your knowledge. The industrial life is our destruction. It is so OBVIOUS! You are experiencing Magical thinking. You think that by some magic everything will get better if we just say so.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

You have your basis and I have reality. We are not ruining our earth, the third world countries who we are transporting the production mechanisms to through cap and tax are polluting the earth. You make the choice.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

Dose of reality about the ice caps.

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/southern_hemisphere_ice_cover_remains_well_above_normal

And here is the garbage science that is totally false that you are so involved with.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080620-north-pole.html

There's more truth where that came from but I must watch football now before we're under water.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

That is from 2007. Its easy to find others to agree with yourself. They may be wrong or mislead but as long as they agree with yourself then it has to be right . Right? I mean who knows more than yourself? There is a word for your type of thinking but I will let you figure it out yourself.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

A radio interview with one of the Scientists that worked on the IPCC report but pretty much agrees with me for some crazy reason. Go figure, I must be very important in my own mind.

http://www.cato.org/mediahighlights/index.php?radio_id=635 http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjI4NTc0YWMzNTA3ZjRmYmJiMDRjNmI5MGEwZTFhM2E=

Newsbreak: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2390955/posts

Lord Monckton: http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/23/the-longest-sentence-against-global-warming-legislation/

I could paste the dozens and dozens of Scientists that argue against Al Gore but it won't change believers as your statements can't convince me either, so have a good day.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

A scientist. Does he/ she understand Quantum Physics and Chemistry? Is he/she benefitting financially from the status Quo? Any idiot can say idiotic things but that does not make them true. The North and South poles are MELTING! The glaciers are MELTING! The skies here in Steamboat are a HAZE of particulates from burning coal. Last year it was not apparent now it is here. If we are burning something we are reversing Photosynthesis. Using up molecular Oxygen and the Carbon based fuel. It is SIMPLE. Molecular O2 absorbs Ultraviolet Energy and become Ozone O3. Then Ozone can absorb Ultraviolet Energy at a slightly different Wavelength still within the UV spectrum. This is what happens. It is not junk science. It is what actually happens. The oxides and water vapor produced from burning ABSORB Energy in the Infrared portion of the Energy spectrum-INFRARED-HEAT . Scientist? What kind of Scientist? Who is paying them? How many are fired for telling the truth? Seeuski you are obviously either not smart or you are on the payroll of the fossil fuel industry.

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Jeff Kibler 4 years, 4 months ago

SkyPilot:

If you exhale, digest and/or pass gas, you a merely a hypocrite.

Why don't you take one for the team and cease all of the above.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

Sorry to upset your panic mode clearsky but your side is losing support as more facts are coming to light. But hey, take a look at the bright side, the world is not coming to an end and you will have plenty of snow to ski on here through your 150th Birthday and beyond. And as far as paid scientists, what a hypocrite! It is the AGW scientists that are being used for political purposes that are getting all the grant money. Any scientists that have used actual data to show opposing conclusions have been blacklisted and threatened or fired.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Our culture is killing the Earth. seeuski, do you benefit from the destruction of the Earth? Do you make your money from the Industrial Process? Is that is why you are defending the lies. You can fool some of the people some of the time but eventually the truth will show clearly in everyones' eyes. We should have a monument that records the names of all the people that say it isn't so, then the people that are left with the end results could curse them and their offspring.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

Grow up.

Here is a scientific data site that shows images of the arctic sea ice side by side. You can actually change the dates and compare. I hope this calms you down clearsky.

http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=11&fd=22&fy=1997&sm=11&sd=22&sy=2009

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

seeuski, Read everything I wrote above. Again and again and again. A monument to you and the likes of you will be appropriate.

"Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist"-Kenneth Boulding

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

"Grow up." you say. To grow up means to take responsibility for what we do.

If you ask a 5 year old how to stop Global Warming that is caused by burning "fossil fuels". He would say "stop burning fossil fuels." That is about as smart as anyone can be. Our culture is destroying the Earth.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

Liked those pictures of the growing ice caps did ya?

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Say my house is empty and you need shelter. So you say "my God says that I have dominion over the Earth. So you break in, live there, use up my food, sell everything you can sell, burn everything else for warmth, and then might as well break the windows for entertainment when you are ready to move on. You destroyed every aspect that made it a shelter and now you need to move to the next house. This is our culture. We are destroying the Earth!

And you say "The house was going to fall down anyways."

seeuski- Summer and winter ice amounts change but never before in mans' industrial history has the summer ice on the North pole melted to the point where neighboring countries can stake claim and pilot their ships through what once was an impenetrable ice field. We are talking now, not 2 or 3 years ago. It is happening much faster then even the scientists predicted. 5+billion people, all reversing 3 billion years of Photosynthesis in a 100 or so years. Once again DUHHH!

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

The Ice caps are growing and there is no more debate about that. It is settled science and science is based on facts. And I would never break your windows when I leave your shack. You are pretty funny though kinda like chicken little but with a French accent.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

The ice caps are melting. The glaciers are melting. Quantum physics and Chemistry is real science. And they both explain clearly the process of global warming. Burning Photosynthetic fuels use up the O2 and release carbon, nitrogen, sulfur oxides and water. These oxides are great at absorbing in the infrared portion of the Energy spectrum. Period! No way around it. We have burned up probably 1-2 billion years of Photosynthetic products in about a 100 years. No way around it . That is what we've done. Our industrial culture is destroying the Earth. No way around it.

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MrTaiChi 4 years, 4 months ago

pieinthesky:

The earth is warming. Can there be or should there be anything that reverse that trend?

I'm kind of uncertain how the above question can be answered with consensus.

It is a bit interesting though in a polemical sense, to observe that frequently in these comments posters righteously and piously pontificate how wrong it is to appeal to fear and hate to oppose their enlightened ideas, but on this issue it is a virtue to try to scare the living daylights out of anyone who is skeptical and to insinuate that the culture that has mothered, nurtured and prospered you is evil.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Anyway we put it, the Industrial culture spews out poison and nondigestible waste for the planet. There is a flotilla of plastic floating in the ocean that is larger than the continent of Africa. We were born into this mess and we need to figure out what do do rather quickly.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

To reverse the warming trend it will take 1-2 Billion years of Photosynthesis with the requirement that the products stay separated. ie not burned. The Carbon fuel will have to be buried and the molecular Oxygen be allowed to build up again in the atmosphere. The O2 will once again absorb the intense UV Energy forming O3 which also absorbs UV Energy at a slightly different Wavelength. Less energy from the sun can get through to the Earth's surface, and less heat absorbing airborn molecules such as the Carbon, Nitrogen, Sulfur Oxides will be present. That is the process. If everyone on Earth stopped burning the "fossil" fuels today, then the Earth's average temperatures will stay the same +- 1' Centigrade.(1.8'F). Now what do YOU think should we do? And try to remember, I'm in this mess with everyone else, too.

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

Clearsky, What is the EXACT perfect temprature of Earth? If you can not tell me that then your clamoring has a 50%chance of being a waste of my time.

Several decades ago we were told that we were headed for an ice age. What happened? What if we had set out impulsively to correct that comming ice age by attempting to deliberately raise Earths temprature?

The Thames River used to freeze. It stopped freezing BEFORE the industrial age. Why?

Why is the temprature of Mars rising?

Many years ago a brilliant stock operator was asked, at a cocktail party, if he knew what the stock market would do. Everyone fell silent as he immediately responded "yes, I know exactly what the market wil do. It will continue to fluctuate." So too will Earths climate, regardless of the "Chicken Littles" hysteria.

Colorado had a thriving timber industry. It was put out of business by tree huggers who knew NOTHING about forest management. Today Colorado has some of the most protected froests on Earth. Look around you! They're decimated thanks to fools who rushed to "save the forests". Your ilk "protected" them to death. And millions of board feet of "affordable housing" stand poised to go up in smoke... which will, ironically, CONTRIBUTE to global warming. He he he! See how funny that is??

These same environmentalists who couldn't manage a pine forest are now to be in charge of affecting GLOBAL ATMOSPHERIC CHANGE?????? Brilliant! I would expect results similar to when little johnny finds his daddys pistol. You people have no idea what you are doing and you are going to screw sh..t up!

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Zed 4 years, 4 months ago

Not to distract from the global warming fisticuffs, but is the best Bob can come up with really logging? Logging beetle kill is your answer to the complex economic and environmental issues that face Colorado? Funny, I just heard this news story today about beetle kill getting cleaned up a bit, including at Steamboat Lake, with federal money and without giving coal and natural gas free reign to cut up our backyards. : http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=11575179 What makes these multinational energy companies any different from the greedy financiers on Wall Street who had a role in our current economic situation? "Turn looks the private sector"? Really, you want us to deregulate after the last lesson we just learned about human nature and money?

And I know it is fun to romanticize about coal miners and loggers, but don't forget all of the other industries in Steamboat and Colorado..... All that is missing from Bob's hot air is some bull about being un-american and a little more partisan hackery.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Sledneck if you understood quantum physics and chemistry you would say " Oh sh#t , I've been F#ing up our environment and the future of all life on this great planet by burning fossil fuels for my own enjoyment"

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

I'm sure you have a great excuse for the fossil fuel YOUUUUU burn, Clearsky.

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

Clearsky,

Can you answer the questions? What is the EXACT perfect temprature for earth??? What happened to the ice age you geniuses promised us in the '70's?? Why is the temp. of other planets rising?? Why did the Thames River stop freezing BEFORE the "evil industrial revolution"?

Have any answers to the questions or is throwing BS all you got?

I don't care if you have more degrees than a thermometer. Nor does it impress reading how much quantum bs you think you and you alone undesrstnd.

The worlds greatest scientists KNEW (not thought, KNEW) that the earth was flat. They were as sure of it as you are of global warming. They were far smarter than you or I. They were wrong! Only a FOOL is 100% certain.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Sledneck, Like I said. Your name says it all. If you have offspring they will surely curse you. That will be their only choice because your idiotic attitude is what is leading us to our destruction. What we should build is a monument with the names of all the idiots like you so we can hunt you down when the time comes. And I know what your response is --BLAH,BlAH,BLAH .

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Hey Sledneck, This is what you should think about. If you came into my house and started destroying things, would I have the right to use any force necessary to protect myself and my family? If you are doing things to destroy our Earth, do I have the right to use any force necessary to protect myself and my family? Our culture is destroying the Earth. When will people fight back???? Your shared attitude will make it happen eventually. So we better all work together to make things better to prevent the bloodshed.

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

So the answer is no, you can't answer my questions. I figured as much.

Destroy YOUR fossil fuel burning possesions, forsake your capatilist endeavors and live in the woods like the spotted owl. Then you will have peace.

But you can not. You are addicted to the fossil. You too must have the fossil. Like a rat on crack.

You, of course, excuse yourself. In your mind your use is not as blatant as mine. It is o.k. for YOOUUUU because YOOOUUU are offsetting YOOOUUURRR use of the fossil by preaching to saps like me; doing your part that way to save your "mother".

I can only imagine the conflict within you. I pitty you. Sure of your notions but unable to break your own addiction to the fossil.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

If we continue burning fossil fuels we will finish destroying the Earth. There is no way around it. All the arguing you do is leading us to the end. It is basic chemistry.- We are reversing 3 billion years of Photosynthesis in about 200 years. When we run out of fossil fuels, we will become extinct. A monument to you and the like minded is what we should have so we can hunt you down. Fighting back may be our only hope of survival.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

And Sledneck, If I went off to live in the woods, I will still be exposed to all the toxins being produced by our society. The pollution does not stay in one place. And to top it off, sledders will actually go out into what remains of the Natural world and bring noise and poisonous exhaust right to my shelter. and for what ? DUHHH It's fun. Idiots!!!!!!

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality"-John F. Kennedy

"We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented"-Elie Wiesel

Our culture is destroying the Earth.

Our greatest moral instinct should be to save the only place we have to live.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

clearsky, how long have you been a member of ELF?

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

seeuski, How long before you take responsibility for being a member of the human race?

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

So you can't answer the questions. You can only sling BS. I knew it.

"The great enemy of the truth is often not the lie... but the myth"... "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought". " A nation that's affraid to let its people judge the truth and falshood in an open market is a nation that's affraid of its people." "The highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them." All quotes from JFK All applicable to you.

The point of you living in the woods is not what you would be EXPOSED to, rather it is that YOU would not be contributing to the problem. Put your lifestyle where your mouth is. Talk is cheap. Your words mean nothing as long as you remain addicted to the fossil.

Your car, home, bike, skis. All contribute to the "problem". You are addicted to the fossil. Like a rat on crack, you return again and again to the fossil. Every time you flip the light switch. Every product you buy. Every mile you drive, you use the fossil.

Fossil Fossil fossil fossil fossil.... sounds funny when you say it a lot!

Excuse me, I have to pee again.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Chemistry and Quantum Physics explains what is happening. Pick up a text book and see for yourself. If you are smart enough. PS The only people who thought the world was flat were idiots like you. Everyone else could see the world was not flat. If you look out on the horizon it curves. Again DUHHHHH! Euclidean geometry was well before Columbus. Our culture is destroying the Earth.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

We need to construct a monument with all the names of the people who say" it isn't so " So that the people who are left with the poisoned world can curse the ones who fought so hard to keep the ignorance alive. It is happening and will increase exponentially. 6 billion people all fighting for what's left. Big piles of toxic dumps. Floating plastic in the Ocean larger that the continent of Africa!!!!

You guys need to read what is happening on this Earth. Ignorance will not save anyone.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Sledneck, The average temperature is only one aspect that is changing. What you are not understanding is that it took 3 billion ears of Photosynthesis to produce the Carbon based fuels AND the surplus molecular Oxygen THAT protects us from the intense energy of the Sun. O2 absorbs UV and then becomes O3 and that absorbs at a slightly different Wavelength. The reason we have decreasing Ozone high up in the atmosphere is because we are using O2 up by BURNING. CFC are also using the O2 up by irreversibly binding with the O3. More UV is reaching the surface and forming Ozone at the surface because there is less O2 left in the atmosphere to absorb the intense Energy from the Sun. You need to educate yourself . It is as simple as reading Chemistry and Quantum Physics. You don't have to do the calculations, just read about the process. And then you will say " Oh S&*t. All this time I was backing up the wrong tree" And Yes Photosynthesis is happening BUT when the plant dies, it either burns or is metabolized. Both use up the exact SAME amount of O2 that was produced in making itself. Carbon atom per carbon atom. Photosynthesis today is NEGLIGIBLE in its contribution to surplus O2 in the Earth's atmosphere. Now do you get it or do I have to explain it again and again?

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

So you still can't answer my questions.

What is the EXACT perfect temp. for earth? Why are other planets warming? Why did the Thames River quit freezing BEFORE the industrial revolution? What happened to the ice age you quacks promised me in the '70's?

If you have even a fraction of the intelligence you espouse you should have little trouble answering those simple questions, no? So why won't you answer me?

It pains you greatly to know deep in your heart that climate fluctuations can not be tied to mankind. Doesn't it? You recoil at the idea that the sun may be the chief perpetrator. It saddens you that the earth has cooled, doesn't it? Doesen't it? You vigorously disregard information that damns your hypothesis, don't you? Don't you?

What will you do when it is no longer fashionable to beat your chest and lament our existance?

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Sledneck you may not have the necessary intelligence to understand much of anything. Stupid is as stupid does as stupid says. All the questions you ask have been answered. read everything I wrote above over and over and maybe it will sink in. The exact perfect temp. of the Earth WHERE? When? Average temp? Perfect temp for what? Your question is like asking what is the perfect temp for water? You are asking a nonsensical question.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Hey sledneck , what is the perfect sled? Duhh or what is the perfect elevation? Or what is the perfect cooking utensil? DUHHH. You need to learn Chemistry and Quantum Physics then we can have an intelligent discussion. I am looking forward to it. May the Earth bless you.

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

The question is perfectly sensible. What is the exact perfect temp. of earth? If the PERFECT temprature for earth is higher than the CURRENT temprature then global warming would be a good thing. Therefore, it is not a nonsensical question. Attacking my intelligence rather than answering the questions shows you have no answers. A simple answer please... if you have any. Why did rivers stop freezing before the industrial age? Why are other planets warming? What happened to the ice age I was promised in the '70's? I want my freakin ice age!

What is the size of YOUR carbon footprint? I'll bet you wear clown shoes when it comes to carbon. Don't you? I'm going to nick-name you Bigfoot! Bigfoot the fossil head. Can't kick the fossil. I'll bet you have the fossil equivelent of a 2-pack a day habbit. Don't you? You're a closet fossil head. Aren't you?

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

There you go again. Since man began burning, the Earth has been warming up. It is simple Chemistry and Quantum Physics. Now if a a major eruption or an asteroid hits the Earth and spews into the atmosphere, there will be cooling for a few years until the dust settles. But we are talking about O2, CO2, nitrogen and Sulfur dioxides that Absorb and hold onto heat. Using up O2 will end up resulting in more UV Energy getting through and destroying all susceptible life forms by destroying the DNA. Todays man has been on this Earth for about 100,000 years based on Genetic studies (even though there was other Hominid species here before us that did not contribute to our genetic material.) So since man started burning the Earth has been warming up. I am reducing as much of my carbon use as I can but you , the idiot, is bragging about using excessive amounts out of pure contempt for our future. You are a sickness. You deserve to be singled out and given full retribution. Answer my question. What is the perfect sled?? What is the perfect elevation? What is the perfect cooking utensil? You are definitely sick.

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Error, O2 does not absorb heat. It absorbs in the UV portion of Energy spectrum. Above was typo mistake. But you already knew that. Because you are starting to learn about Quantum Physics and responsibility to future generations.

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

Temperature, got it!

The perfect sled is one with 25% more horsepower than any of my buddies, Only burns half the fuel as theirs, never gets stuck and always starts on the first pull. Now lets be clear; the half fuel thing isn't to save our "mother" it is so I can ride hard AAALLLL DAAAAAYYY and not run out of gas till i'm at the parking lot!

The perfect elevation is 10, 500 ft. Any lower and snowfall is diminished, any higher and the thinning oxygen robs sled power(approx 3% for every 1000' above sea level). Also, at elevations higher than 10,500 wind increases and trees get scarce so snow is not as good and visability suffers.

The perfect cooking utensil is tongs... definitely tongs. They can flip everything from burgers to chicken and also pick up hot dogs without penetrating them and losing that juicy goodness, YUM YUM! However, the perfect EATING utensil is a fork because you can cut, poke and scoop with it. And since I only eat the finest filet mignon a fork cuts it with no problem. Come to think of it I could survive at 10,500' with just a sled, fuel, a grill and a fork and tongs! Oh, and a gun to kill stuff to grill. Oh, and a knife to skin it and cut it up for grillin'!

Did you like my JFK quotes? Not bad for a sick, idiot, misspelling sledneck, huh?

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Sledneck , your education consists of drinking beer and then agreeing with yourself instead of reading and understanding Chemistry and Quantum Physics. Before you put everyones' future on the line by defending that which is leading us to our impending destruction, you better freakin' really know what you are talking about.

  • It takes 10 calories of Energy from fuel to make 1 calorie of food using todays modern agricultural system. UNSUSTAINABLE!!!!!!!!!

Better stop bragging about your destructive activities. People who want revenge will hunt down people like you. It is human nature to seek revenge and will probably combine that characteristic with their strive to survive.

The animals that we eat have higher and higher concentrates of toxins that are passed through to our young at increasingly higher concentrations by breast milk and by consumption. When we die our bodies will be considered toxic waste. That is why the frequency of Cancer is increasing, immunity diseases increasing.

You need to educate yourself and stop defending stupidity!

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

Hey Bigfoot, Actually, I don't drink much beer. But I do agree with myself; can't help that. Especially since I know I'm right.

The animals and cancer thing is why I'm not too worried about global warming. I eat way too much red meat and drive way too fast to worry about global warming. Plus, like I said, I'm counting on all you "chicken littles" out there to fight global warming so I won't have to!

Like I said, my strategy is the same as yours; I'm going to keep on using the fossil. You and I are both hooked on the fossil. The only difference is you feel guilty; as if the fossil is forbidden fruit. I, on the other hand feel not one tiny bit of guilt when I burn the fossil. After all, if I buy a beer is it not my right to pour it down the drain? The way I see it it's the same with the fossil. I buy the fossil and it's mine to burn.

As far as the hunting me down thing I'm even less worried about that than global warming.

Since you are such a fan of the frogs and seem to appreciate education and books may I take the liberty of recommending an excellent book by a frenchman. It is called "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat. Or, if you are feeling a little "white guilt" try "Vision of the Annointed" by Thomas Sowell... yeah, he's black, and one of the smartest people alive today. Or how about "Radical Son" by David Horrowitz; I'm sure you will like that one since his parents were card carrying communists.

And just in case you feel froggy about that hunting me down thing some other titles I can PERSONALLY recommend are: "Special Forces Guerilla Warfare Manual by Scott Wimberly, Killing Zone (a profesionals guide to preparing or preventing ambush) by Gary Stubblefield and Mark Monday, Infantry Scouting, Patroling and Sniping by US Government printing office, Physical Interrogation Techniques by Richard W. Krousher, The Tactical Marksman by Dave M. Lauck, The Ultimate Sniper by Maj. John Plaster, The Art of War by Sun Tzu and The Unabomber Manifesto by your hero Theadore Klacinsky.

Fossil Fossil Fossil

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Sledneck, Like I said I don't even read your trash because you've already shown over and over that you are an uneducated simpleton trying to justify your idiotic ways of thinking and behaving without accepting responsibility for what you are doing. I am sorry for you. Your parents may be to blame but that would be a cop out.

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

"Trying to justify" sounds like the e-mails from your scientist "book cookin" buddies. Lying about global warming. Denying the earth is cooling. Discussing how to get people fired if they disagree with your lies. Men of real character, thats what you guys are!

You tree huggers talk about tolerance. You have the peace and anti-war stickers but you are of all men most filled with hate! In the last few days you have wished me poisoned. You have called me stupid over and over. You have called those who recreate in a manner in which you do not approve "idiots".You have talked about your peers "hunting me down" and wished them "happy hunting". You said there should be a monument with my name on it so "everyone will know who to curse". You have insinuated that I am a drunk. You have implied that there is a hot spot in Hell reserved for me. You said my offspring will "curse me". You brought my upbringing into question, thereby insulting my parents. Yeah, you guys are a bundle of peace and love alright!

You call people names and denegrate because you lack substance and depth. You must distract observers from relevant information by "killing the messenger". No doubt you have convictions and the courage to commit arson, defamation and character assanition. However, you lack the most important thing, truth. That is not going to deter you though. Your religion excuses your conduct. Your god compels you and the ends justify the means... always a tennant of any good cult.

The simple questions I put forth remain unanswered.

Why are other planets warming? What is the exact perfect temperature of earth? Why did the Thames River stop freezing before industrialization? Where is the ice age I was promised in the '70's? If quantum physics has not changed since the '70's why did the experts predict an ice age then and now, using the same science, they predict global warming? If your science is so sound why are your scientists trying desperately to hide their findings?

Since you will not even give answers to simplistic questions thought up by someone as"simple minded" as me I am compelled to conclude you have none.I have to conclude the opposite; that you are not a man of science but a man of great faith since that seems to be the entirety of your position.

On the outside we are different. But on the inside we are both addicted to the fossil. I won't stop because I refuse to believe. You won't stop using the fossil even though you profess to believe. Who is worse?

Doesn't that kill you? to know that you and I are equally destroying the earth? With every "toke" we take off the "fossil bong" we curse the earth. It makes me smile but it must bring tears to your eyes. Funny, you and I, our arms linked, marching to the abyss; me with only sunshine on my shoulders and you with the weight of the world on yours.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

31,486 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs

http://www.petitionproject.org/

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Clearsky 4 years, 4 months ago

Sledneck, Like I've said "you are an idiot." You need to understand Quantum Physics and simple chemistry. If you are burning something , it came from Photosynthesis. You are defending the corruption of our future. There is no choice. We are doomed by your defense of the culture that is leading to our destruction. Sorry man, I am trying but a-holes like you will say "well, why didn't someone tell me?" Goodbye!

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sledneck 4 years, 4 months ago

If you would just try to kick your 2-pack-a-day fossil habbit I just know we could save the earth. But you refuse to put the needs of mankind ahead of your own selfesh fossil habbit. You disappoint me bigfoot. I think you need professional help. You can kick the fossil if you pray to the earth for help!

Perhaps if the earth warmed up a bit you would not need to use so much fossil. In fact, maybe thats the earths plan; You know, to warm up so we can stop burning firewood! It all makes sense now! We need to help the earth warm itself in order to save the planet and everything on it. Global Warming as the ANSWER!!! It all makes sense now!

WE MUST WARM THE EARTH !! Otherwise we are all doomed.

"don't tell anyone that Britain has a freedom of information act".

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

CLIMATE CHANGE 'FRAUD'

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/143573

Current temp here is 21 degrees and sunny. I think that is a bit below normal for December 2nd. HELP!!! Is it cooling or warming? What should I freak out about?

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Brian Kotowski 4 years, 4 months ago

Australia kills its version of cap & tax: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j2KNKnMFQ8tg6pj3TcgKA2sHBgJwD9CB6MIO2

Meanwhile, some interesting numbers from Rasumssen:

71% Angry at federal govt policies: +5 pts since Sept. A plurality of 46% characterize themselves as very angry; +10 pts since Sept: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/november_2009/71_angry_at_federal_government_up_five_points_since_september

Democrat health care proposals are presently opposed by voters 53-41: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/november_2009/71_angry_at_federal_government_up_five_points_since_september

Voters trust Repubs over Dems on 8 out of 10 issues, including the economy, taxes, and national security: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues

Not good news for the Dems, especially since the GOP hasn't done anything except piss & moan.

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seeuski 4 years, 4 months ago

The more people I meet that voted for BHO and regret it the more hope I feel for the change we must have in 2010 in order to survive. The people that will win seats in 2010 will be from the grass roots movements like Bob McConnell and not more cogs for the machine, Repub or Dem. Tax and spend along with the Marxist movement will fail but not soon enough. Obama and his merry czars can't conceal their dirty deeds similarly to the Scientists who have been outed for their Global Warming fraud. I guess Obama will pull a Dan Rather at the AGW summit and pressure the world to trust the message not the lying Scientists and their phony trumped up data. Al Gore should be arrested and tried in the Hague for Global Fraud and theft.

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