Paul Epley: Cap and trade, or drop your pants?

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One of the worst dirty little secrets of liberalism is how they will protect the "little guy" by soaking the rich. Let us examine how the progressive do-gooders have protected "Joe Six-Pack" throughout the years with the most regressive taxes imaginable.

Sin taxes come to mind immediately. I don't smoke, but as long as it is legal, sort of, I respect the right of others to do it. Who smokes and what does it cost, comparatively speaking? Remember all of those tobacco suit settlements? The federal government made tax collectors out of the tobacco companies. The companies, per se, were not responsible to pay, as the judgments all were imposed against taxes on future sales. The question is, do these confiscatory taxes of nearly 90 percent have a greater impact on the homeless black man on the streets with his stolen shopping cart and cardboard shelter, the waitress or on the messiah President Barack Obama?

Let me try to get the attention of the Steamboat wine-and-croissant crowd. Do you realize that 68 to 75 percent of the cost of your merlot is tax? Probably not, because it does not make a difference to you. The Democrats claim to represent Joe Six-Pack and Willie Wino.

How about your cell phone? A whopping 33 percent is tax and fees, and it is even higher for a land line. Again, a small percent of your budget compared to the guy who collects your trash or unclogs your toilet. But, alas, I recognize that these are discretionary : luxuries. So let us move on.

I was in the Philippines last week, and gasoline was a little more than $1 a gallon. Why? Because they have their own refineries and do not have 50 percent state and local taxes. Ironically, the taxibus drivers were complaining bitterly, and that is why I had to pay 7 Philippine pesos (14 cents) to go almost three miles. If you work in Hayden and live in the 'Boat or Craig, the cost of gas is a significant cost compared to your daily wage.

Are you getting an idea of how badly we are soaking the rich and looking out for the little guy? Good, because you need to hold on to your shorts when I explain "cap and trade" to you.

Take a look at your current electric bill. Note that about 50 percent of your bill is taxes and fees. Do you know that you are still paying a tax that was sold on the "electrification" of rural America put in place during the Great Depression? Numb? You should be, but wait. The current "cap and trade" legislation, promulgated on the myth of global warming, is estimated to add $3,000 per person to your electric, food and other goods.

Oh, excuse me, I guess these are not essentials if you are willing to starve and freeze in the dark. You know very well that not a dime of it will be used to try to impact global climate. I say "try" because the sun and the oceans dwarf man's activities. In fact, the Earth has cooled for the past nine years, and we now are projected to enter a mini-ice age.

For those who have attended American public schools during the past 30 years, let me illustrate the total unavoidable tax burden on a family, any family. If you spend $50 on your phone, $100 on electricity, $100 on gasoline and $50 on beer or smokes each month, you are paying more than $159 in hidden taxes. If cap and trade is passed, that amount would jump by $250.

Paul Epley is a longtime Routt County conservative activist, holds a Ph.D. in biology from the University of Southern California, and is a director of the Conservative Leadership Council of Northwest Colorado. He currently resides in Pasco, Wash.

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Fred Duckels 4 years, 11 months ago

If the Dems want to be fair they would allow an investigation of Acorn. Since they rule the roost these thugs would surely be treated fairly. Only one rub, they won't allow any light on their surrogates.

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Doug Matthews 4 years, 11 months ago

A note: One of these taxes, the excise (luxury) tax that you see on your phone bill, was instituted to help pay for the Spanish American War of 1898... This shows that once a tax is assessed, it just will never go away. They just keep getting added on and added on, until finally our society will slump under the burden and be replaced by another system of government. The "new socialism" that Newsweek mentioned?

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honestabe 4 years, 11 months ago

if taxes were lowered, wouldnt more county/city employees be fired, and less essential services be performed?

Isnt this Epley guy the same one who last year kept yelling about there was no recession, we are not in a recession?

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Fred Duckels 4 years, 11 months ago

Remember the show trials by the left to berate tobacco executives. The politicos aligned themselves with all that is good, all the while masquerading this tax increase on those that can least afford it. O is planning this carbon tax, or equivalent, to tax every person, and benefit those like General Electric-NBC that have sucked up, and are to be rewarded. This tax will also lower our total standard of living leaving those on the low end of the food chain to suffer the most.

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honestabe 4 years, 11 months ago

the tax will make us more aware of our poluting, therefore less poluting (it is expensive), therefore higher standard of living. (i have some questions about the negatives of carbon, less about general air polution/ particulates in the air). The tobacco tax/trials have made for less smokers, making the standard of living for those who quit (and those that love them or are around them) much higher.

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

honestabe, Can you point to anywhere in history where accessive taxation has increased the standard of living for the masses? Or is this the world according to garp? Doesn't it bother you that our tax dollars are going to Unions, ACORN, and the CEO's who have been aligned with the new President? Doesn't it bother you that good programs, like the school voucher programs, have been canceled by Obama because of his debt to the Teachers Unions sending thousands of mostly poor black children back to the failed public schools? Doesn't it bother you that Obama swore a non-corrupt transparent Administration but we won't know for a year how our tax dollars are really being spent and most of his cabinet are either tax cheats like Giettner or Corporate Union slicksters like the new car Czar Rattner, who kows squat about automobiles? We may be seeing more and more at the next Tea Parties. Join us.

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Fred Duckels 4 years, 11 months ago

Abe Then let the politicians impose this tax, don't villify industry and let the public know that they have slain the dragon. A tax is a tax, man up.

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

Oh, And did you like our new $357,000 dollar press photo of AF1 flying over Manhattan sending thousands of NY'ers running in fear of their lives from another 9/11 style attack, many of which were at their jobs so a huge loss in man hours? What the heck, it must be a laugh a minute in the Oval Office these days.

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theKid 4 years, 11 months ago

It's remarkable that some folks continue to believe that the GOP has something to contribute. I think that if I were a republican, I'd be too embarrassed to admit it in public.

Given the state of the economy that the President inherited from the GOP, why would anyone sober believe that republican solutions will get us anywhere except further into the abyss?

Repubs, good luck with your party. I believe that the USA benefits from a robust two party system. It's just that both of those parties need to maintain some grip on reality.

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

To those of you who voted against their party last election because they felt that Bush spent like a drunken sailor, you have been duped. Without a balance in power, ie. Dem WH w/Repub Congress or vice versa, we are the ones that get the shaft. That is truly taxation w/o representation.

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

thekid, Look back at the last eight years and how the Dems in Congress porked up many important house bills and how it was the Dems institutions ie. Fannie/Freddie that caused the worldwide collapse, not the Repubs. So wish as you may that 1/2 of Americans will disappear but you won't like what happens in the coming elections. Don't forget that Obama won the election by a small margin against a very weak apponent after eight years of media bias against the last President. Not quite a refferendum.

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theKid 4 years, 11 months ago

seeuski,

I don't agree.

...and 365 - 173 isn't a small margin.

db

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

There was a 5.5 point margin which included mickey mouse and donald duck and thousands of other fraudulent ballots that ACORN signed up. We shall see though.

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bellyup 4 years, 11 months ago

I wish Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck had been on the ballot instead of merely casting one!

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MDSand 4 years, 11 months ago

The level of ignorance on the right never fails to amaze me. ACORN is a community organizing group that also works to to register low income voters. How un-American, that poor people's votes should count the same as everyone else. Wingnuts never tire, will never tire, of the "thousands of fraudulent ballots" charge. Hans Van Spakovsky, the wingnut's wingnut, couldn't come up with anything when he was in the voting rights division of the Justice Department (talk about the fox guarding the henhouse), but he's back out on the street spouting the same schtick, and we can always depend on a local wingnut to pick up the chant. I guess that's just the nature of wingnuttery.

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TWill 4 years, 11 months ago

Lighten up MD, you sound like wingnut.

Its really not that un-American to question low income voting. Particularly with the alledged fraud that always seems to be affiliated with it. Our founding fathers based voting rights on property ownership.

If you think about that logically, (I know that can be difficult for some of you wingnuts) it makes sense. Who do think has more vested in making a conscious, thoughtful decision of whom to vote? Someone that has directly invested into our system (a deposit) or someone that is dependant upon that same system (a withdrawl)?

I know that's a bit harsh for some of you to process, but its another example of the tremendous foresight those guys in Philadelphia had in the late 1700's.

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knee_dropper 4 years, 11 months ago

TWill, you forgot to mention that some of the "property" that the founding fathers owned were other people. How many rights did slaves have and how "American" is that? Equality for property owners only sounds is about as "wingnutty" as it gets; are you actually advocating the repeal of suffrage and the voting rights act?

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MDSand 4 years, 11 months ago

Any comments any of us make here are over-simplified to absurdity, but, that said, let me say that I have noticed an inclination among the wingnuts (these are people who don't let the facts get in the way of their opinions, of which Hans Van Spakovsky is a good example) to skirt very close to saying that the people with money in this country are the serious people and are the people who should be allowed to rule in their wisdom. And that rather quickly takes us to knee dropper's observation about slavery, and we realize that ingrained in the idea of people of wealth ruling is the idea that those people are of course white people. And Fred Duckels likes to pretend that ACORN hasn't been investigated, although it certainly was investigated in great depth in the last eight years (see the definition of wingnuttery). Perhaps he wants good (white) folks to rally to his statement that the current administration is standing in the way of an investigation. Sounds like the teabaggers need to have another demonstration on the courthouse lawn. That one would make as much sense as the last one.

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TWill 4 years, 11 months ago

I knew I would get a response like that, especially from a knee dropper ;). I realize that I'm dealing with a sensitive topic that is right on the edge of "wingnuttery". But please don't misunderstand me. I'm not advocating anything that forces anyone to act against their will (and certainly nothing like slavery or any other human rights infringement).

Although, I am impressed by the model our founding fathers put in place for our democracy to function effectively. We've clearly changed course from their blueprint during the past generation or two and I hope we haven't stretched ourselves too thin by attempting to please everyone combined with our omnipresent phobia of offending anyone.

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TWill 4 years, 11 months ago

MDS- You're right about all of our comments' over-simplification, but don't put words in other people's mouth- especially with regards to the accusations you make.

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

LeftWingNuts and ACORN are selling out the poorest and most vulnerable of americans in the name of power and greed. There just so happens to be a new indictment on ACORN in Nevada to go along with the numerous other indictments and convictions/admissions of fraud elsewhere around the Country. How about the ACORN eight? What can the good MD say about the Women who are members of ACORN and are speaking out publicly about the fraud that they have witnessed with great threat to their own safety. The book has just been opened on this scamming organization and the truth will be known. Calling Americans who are against the fleecing of our Countries future names like racist and teabaggers will only motivate us that much more to speak up. Thanks MD. OH, and as far as an investigation goes, Rep. Conyers(D) called for a Congressional investigation because the ACORN eight brought forth evidence of fraud. Not long there after his white (D) colleagues quashed him and he has backed down. Reality as apposed to your theory.

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MDSand 4 years, 11 months ago

Those who go in search of the truth from Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin deserve what they get.

The book on ACORN has been open for forty years. It's nothing to be frightened of, unless having people of color and the disadvantaged register to vote is frightening to you.

The party that has hoodwinked the poorest and most vulnerable Americans is, thank you Jesus, now out of power for a few years. No doubt they'll be back, and we'll have to deal with them once again.

Now, let's move on to Dick Cheney and torture!

And Seeuski, the comments on John Conyers are really beyond credulity. Maybe you need to stop in at Hofmeister's and get a flag pin!

I need to get back to the real world, quickly, before my brain gets addled...

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

The world according to garp. Reality doesn't matter.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/20/conyers-suggests-probe-of-acorn/

These women and others will blow the whistle on the left wing abuse of minorities for political purposes and financial greed. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519834,00.html

MADsand, Every American citizen has a right to one vote. How about the 10's of thousands of overseas ballots that were not counted in the last election? Why not count the ballots of our military when they are overseas fighting for our freedom? I wonder why. I am sure you are of the mindset that whatever tactics it took to elect a Dem is ok. That is why you defend the convicted ACORN of all the voter fraud over the years as if they are representing the poor blacks. Selling out America for your left wing agenda will come back to haunt the left. Kind of like Obama's Rev. Wright saying your chickens will come home to roost.

So Madsand, back to the Keith Olberman show for more of your talking points.

And Chaney has been forced to speak up against the Obama left wingnut campaign of throwing the US under the bus and enraging more of our enemies with thousands of Abu Gharaib style photos and hand picked so called torture memos that were released. So yea, release the memos that prove the waterboarding saved thousands of American lives and stopped numerous other plots. You can't handle the truth! Where were all you whiners when Carter visited Castro, Hamas and others and went on a campaign against the Bush Administration all around the world? What a traitor.

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theKid 4 years, 11 months ago

It is my understanding that ACORN is paid to collect and submit voter registrations to the respective states. It then becomes the states' responsibility to verify the voters.

So much for ACORN fraud.

Next?

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JLM 4 years, 11 months ago

ACORN which began life as the "Arkansas" Community Organizations for Reform Now was founded by Wade Rathke, an organizer for NWRO (National Welfare Rights Organization) which perfected the tactic of flooding welfare offices with applicants thereby overwhelming the office and putting thousands of folks on the welfare rolls who simply did not qualify.

Rathke also organized the SEIU --- Service Employees International Union --- while preventing his own ACORN employees from forming or joining a union. He chairs the AFL-CIO's Organizing Forum. Rathke is a big time union activitist unless a union somehow disturbs his own plans.

His brother embezzled over $1MM from ACORN which he hushed up for decades. ACORN has routinely engaged in political advocacy activities --- completely forbidden by their fictitious "non-profit" status ---, Jesse Jackson styled corporate shakedowns particulary those related to Community Reinvestment Act redlining allegations and fraudulent voter registration drives including the notorious Project Vote.

ACORN is a huge corrupt organization with its fingers into Democratic politics, Federal grant funding, private grant funding, corporate shakedowns, its own law firm, union roots while preventing unionisation of its own employees --- this is the political Mafia at work.

Make no mistake, the connection between ACORN and the unions is the "big lie" at work here. They are both potent Democratic political forces which provide people and money to support the Democratic party while pretending to serve a mythical army of supporters.

The entire tale of ACORN will soon be told and you will be amazed that something this nefarious and corrupt is at the very core of President Obama's political career.

Even Pat Caddell, a prominent Democratic pollster and Carter administration advisor, has labelled them as a "corrupt" and "criminal" organization.

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Fred Duckels 4 years, 11 months ago

JLm well done, Ridicule is a tool used by many in the political arena. It is effective, W experienced the ultimate use of this bully tactic. I have noticed that accomplished individuals can usually communicate on a higher levcel, but lightweights seem to substitute this as a way to even the board. The same individuals seem to coerce surrogates, to help them tear down someone that they are intimidated by.

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JLM 4 years, 11 months ago

The actions of the SEIU --- again founded by the founder of ACORN --- are particularly troublesome and worthy of careful scrutiny.

The SEIU is lobbying hard for the unionization of bank tellers and the removal of bank CEOs who oppose their unionization efforts.

They are using the Obama administration's powers created by the funding for the banks to further their aims.

Why do these folks have such a powerful alliance? It is a three way partnership among Obama, ACORN and the SEIU.

ACORN conducts fraudulent voter registration efforts in critical battleground states funded in part by SEIU to elect corrupt officials who then directly enable the unions to further expand their fundraising dues collection efforts by policies like "card check" and "project labor agreements" --- enacted by Executive Order signed by Obama.

The corrupt politicians further directly fund ACORN through programs like the Stimulus under the guise of census services. Oh, yeah, the census will ultimately decide the expansion of Congressional districts providing even more corrupt elected officials to further the conspiracy.

ACORN delivers the voters who deliver the battleground states.

SEIU delivers the money to fund ACORN.

The corrupt elected officials increase SEIU funding by using their powers to increase SEIU membership and dues collection.

SEIU uses its increased roles to deliver even more money to ACORN.

The process starts over again.

Luckily, we got the only honest politician ever to come out of Chicago, eh? LOL

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MDSand 4 years, 11 months ago

It's not ridicule to point out that ACORN was investigated for eight years by the Bush Justice Department, a department that had very few qualms taking legal action against its political opponents. All it could come up with were some minor cases involving very small numbers of dis-allowed registrations.

The idea that ACORN and the SEIU swung the last election is delusional. It doesn't matter how you state it, if you sound like a professor or if you sound like a nutcase, it's still delusional. It harkens back to the people who said Martin Luther King, Jr. was a communist-trained agitator (I can feel the bullet points coming). And I would suggest that, were the curtain to be drawn, at the root of the delusion we would find some good old-fashioned American racism.

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JLM 4 years, 11 months ago

Hahahahaha, that's rich!

If you question the illegality of a 501(c)(4) using its tax exempt status to engage in forbidden political activities --- you're a racist or delusional.

If you question the 13-year cover up of $1MM embezzlement by Dale Radke, brother of the founder of both ACORN and SEIU --- you're a racist or delusional.

If you suggest that there may be something a bit troubling about the founder of ACORN, the SEIU and the chief organizer of ACORN being one and the same person --- you're a racist or delusional.

If you point out that the Board of Directors is guilty of fiduciary negligence by allowing the embezzlement to be carried on the organization's books as a "loan" --- you're a racist or delusional.

If you question the connection beween ACORN and SEIU and Project Vote and the recent Obama campaign --- you're a racist or delusional.

If you point out that ACORN has been indicted in over 25 states for voter fraud in the last three national elections --- you're a racist or delusional.

If you question why the SEIU wants the Obama administration to replace certain bank CEOs in order to enable the SEIU to unionize bank tellers --- only at banks which have received TARP funding mind you --- you're a racist or delusional.

If you question the Obama administrations issuance of Executive Orders which mandate project labor agreements to utilize more expensive union labor on public works projects and which involve ACORN as paid solicitors for the next US Census which will reapportion Congressional Districts --- you're a racist or delusional.

Well, I guess I'm a delusional racist! LOL

Tactics straight out of Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. Obvious, simple, corrupt and calculated.

Hell, even Cong Conyers has called for a complete examination and investigation of ACORN! LOL I guess he's another delusional racist?

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

Don't let reality get in your way MaDSAND. I guess that Marcel Reid is a racist then, oh yea but she is a black member of ACORN. As a matter of fact She is the chair of ACORN in Washington, D.C. She is calling for an investigation of ACORN because of the corruption. So pull your your ideologue head out of the sand and stop your insults against people you don't even know.

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MDSand 4 years, 11 months ago

Me: "The idea that ACORN and the SEIU swung the last election is delusional. It doesn't matter how you state it, if you sound like a professor or if you sound like a nutcase, it's still delusional...And I would suggest that, were the curtain to be drawn, at the root of the delusion we would find some good old-fashioned American racism."

JLM: "Well, I guess I'm a delusional racist!"

seeuski: "So pull your your ideologue head out of the sand and stop your insults against people you don't even know."

I don't recall insulting any individuals. I have said that certain arguments are delusional, which they clearly are, and I have said that behind those arguments lies a pervasive racism, which I believe it does. That is quite different from calling someone a delusional racist.

Seeuski, I would suggest that it's time you take your own advice.

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JLM 4 years, 11 months ago

@MDS

Every man is entitled to their own opinion. I take no offense from anything that you have said as you are entitled to your own opinion and being characterized as a "delusional racist" by you carries no particular sting.

Every man is not entitled to their own facts.

The facts speak for themselves and are irrefutable. ACORN and SEIU represent an unholy alliance cobbled together by a union activist in the philosophy of Saul Alinsky.

These organizations and this man, Wade Rathke, are corrupt and attempt to use their non profit status and tax exemptions to circumvent prohibitions against engaging in illegal political activity.

The abuse of their non-profit status allows them to seek and receive funds from George Soros and the usual "progressive" foundations. Absent this bogus non-profit status, these ultraliberal organizations would not be able to provide funding. This lie is essential to both the operations and funding of ACORN, et al.

Obviously these non-profits are forbidden to engage in partisan politics and advocacy.

These organizations --- ACORN, SEIU, Project Vote, Citizens Services --- are all controlled by a handful of folks who pose as legitiamate board members until the indictments begin to appear.

Nonetheless, these organizations have worked directly for the Obama campaign which attempted to characterize their work as "event staging" --- an activity purportedly, in their interpretation, not subject to the prohibitions against partisan political acts.

ACORN and its employees have been indicted for their illegal activities in Conn, Fla, Ind, La, Mi, Minn, Mo, Pa, TX, Wis, Va during just the 2008 election cycle.

Rathke's brother, Wade, embezzled $1MM from ACORN which subsequently carried this as a "loan" on its books though they purported to be audited. Obviously Boardmembers who allowed to have ocurred have perpetuated a huge fraud. The funds were repaid by a "supporter" and Wade Rathke was never charged with criminal wrongdoing.

When indicted its defense is always --- "a few bad apples".

To ignore the realities of ACORN and its affiliates' wrong doing is truly delusional. To rise to their defense in inexcusable.

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MDSand 4 years, 11 months ago

I hadn't realized that the nation of angry white men was so focused upon an organization that consists primarily of poor black women. One can almost smell the violence coming.

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JLM 4 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, I'm sure that those "poor black women" are really getting the benefit of those membership dues and union dues, eh, sport? LOL

ACORN, SEIU, Project Vote, Citizens Services, George Soros --- all concerned about the welfare of poor black women. Hahahahahaha, thanks for that great laugh.

Even those "poor black women" are getting upset. Read up on the ACORN 8, a bunch of folks who are ACORN members asking for --- no demanding --- a financial accounting of ACORN's money.

They are in the power business! At least pretend that you are not a total dupe.

"angry white men" & "poor black women" --- right out of Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. LOL

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Fred Duckels 4 years, 11 months ago

Sandy, You seem to subscribe to the liberal tactic of getting under peoples skin, I just wish you would identify yourself instead of hiding under Jeanine Garafalo's dress. We need to know who holds such wisdom in our community. Maybe we could give you an Olberman award.

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seeuski 4 years, 11 months ago

sand The violence? It is always the left wingnuts that are the violent ones. Out of the 1/2 million or so who attended Tea Parties around the Country on April 15th, not one incident. And ACORN is an organization run by left wing white men who are using the people you describe for power and greedy reasons. We are just taking heed from the whistle blowers from within the organization, oh, and they happen to be black women. http://rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

Most of the charges against ACORN members have been brought by registered Democrats some of which are black. So who really are the racist actors here? Only those using the racist word as a tactic against the opposition. The Saul Alinsky handbook action crowd.

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