Atira submits Ski Time Square plans for redevelopment

Lack of nightlife in 660,000-square-foot area concerns some

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— In a backward economy, The Atira Group is pushing forward with plans for the redevelopment of Ski Time Square. But developers will ask for a 10-year grace period before they must bring the project to fruition.

Development plans for Ski Time Square - sister to the proposed 390,000-square-foot Thunderhead Lodge redevelopment project approved by the city in May - call for five buildings totaling more than 660,000 square feet of mixed-use development on 4.6 acres. Like Thunderhead, the Ski Time Square development between Ski Time Square Drive and Burgess Creek Road would be 105 feet tall at its highest points. Together, the projects would replace the demolished Ski Time Square and Thunderhead Lodge properties, which totaled about 235,000 square feet, with more than 1 million square feet of new development.

Despite the dramatic increase in gross square footage, Atira is proposing a decrease in commercial spaces. That prospect caused some eyebrows to rise during Atira's preapplication hearings with the Steamboat Springs Planning Commission and City Council, but Atira argues retail studies show its proposal is appropriate. In Ski Time Square, Atira is proposing about 200 residential units totaling nearly 400,000 square feet and about 27,000 square feet of commercial space for stores and restaurants.

City planner Jonathan Spence said it does not appear that Atira is proposing any spaces for nightlife in Ski Time Square to replace venues that were lost in demolition. That could be a potential deal-breaker for some City Council members.

"I have a tough time micromanaging projects, but, yeah, I think it is," Councilwoman Cari Hermacinski said. "We don't have any nightlife : on the mountain anymore. It's certainly something I think the tourist expects to be able to do : and locals enjoy it, as well."

Phone messages left for Mark Mathews, an Atira vice president, and the project's architect were not returned Tuesday.

City Council President Loui Antonucci said nightlife is desirable but not necessarily a requirement for him.

"It will seek its own level. If it's appropriate, somebody will put it in somewhere on the mountain. I don't know if it has to be in Ski Time Square," he said. "Even though I'd like to see it, I don't know if I'd mandate it."

Antonucci said he was encouraged to see The Atira Group moving forward with Ski Time Square in a down economy. He said he assumes Atira wants to be ready with an approved project when the economy rebounds, hopes entitlements will attract investors or both.

"It's nice to see some optimism amongst everything else," Antonucci said.

But in what could be a sign that their optimism is measured, The Atira Group is requesting an extended vesting period for the project that would allow them wait for as long as 10 years before pulling a building permit. The city's normal vesting period is three years. Hermacinski and Antonucci said that 10 years sounds like too long of a vesting period at first blush but noted that council is scheduled to have a discussion about vesting periods at its July 21 meeting.

Development plans for Ski Time Square were submitted to the city of Steamboat Springs on June 1. The city has not fully analyzed the project, and Spence said hearings with the Planning Commission and City Council are not scheduled.

Comments

jhr2000 5 years, 5 months ago

It is unfair for this City Council to bond this community for 10 years to the Atira Group which will undoubtedly change in structure over that period of time. So will Steamboat. 3 years is appropriate. If construction has not commenced, we should have a clearer picture of the economy by then and how it affects this project. Perhaps, given the present economy, a 2 year option under approved guide lines can be given- for example, ownership's financial ability and qualifications.

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trump_suit 5 years, 5 months ago

It sure didn't take them 10 years to tear it all down. My comment would be Sh(^ or get off the pot. 10 years is unacceptable.

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Scott Wedel 5 years, 5 months ago

There is no reason to give them any extended time from approval to start building. If they have no current plans to start construction then they should not be seeking project approval.

It would probably make sense to give them time between starting construction of the first building and finishing construction of the last building. That delay should be based upon a specific construction plan.

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housepoor 5 years, 5 months ago

Long Live the Tugboat!!!!

give them the 10 years but require them to allow ski corp to run it as parking lotmusic tent until they break ground

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aichempty 5 years, 5 months ago

An incomplete development strung out over this much time will cause visual dissonance and buyers' remorse among visitors (they won't like what they see and will avoid returning).

Unless the land is put into a natural state and development is planned to avoid looking like a bombed out street in Kosovo during ski season, this will help nobody except the developers who eventually will make a profit -- maybe.

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Kevin Nerney 5 years, 5 months ago

If you are going to wait 10 years to see an increase in tax revenues from businesses in Ski Time Sq. I think the city should force Atira to reasssemble the old buildings and let us make some money in the mean time. Bring back the Pirates Pub!

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Fred Duckels 5 years, 5 months ago

jk, In the end all the micromanagement will be for naught, Many will be able to let them know that they have ruined our lives, but our efforts are mostly for show in the overall picture.

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seeuski 5 years, 5 months ago

No thank you Kevin. I like housepoors idea, it would be a great location for the events that are currently held at the knoll lot.

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Fred Duckels 5 years, 5 months ago

For a long time we have been spoiled because of the local economy. I think that it is time to cut them some slack, they will develop when the market dictates, regardless of the fussing that we do to pretend that we have control over the matter. The market is king, not us.

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Scott Wedel 5 years, 5 months ago

Fred, I am not sure if anyone disagrees with you.

The issue is that the Atira appears to have no plans to start construction if they are asking for 10 years. So why are they asking for the project to be considered right now? The reason is obvious, they want vested development rights in case the rules change in the future. And if the rules change in their favor over the next 10 years then they'll give up what got approved and propose a new project.

So then in several years the City would put itself in the position of negotiating with itself over what it had previously approved vs the proposed modified project.

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jk 5 years, 5 months ago

Scott you are correct I agree with Freds comments about how we have been spoiled.However I am really sick of his cut them some slack attitude.

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greenwash 5 years, 5 months ago

Its all for sale.

Id be surprised if owner has the holding power of 10 years.It more likely will be pieced out over a a period of time.

And at what point does owner decide he doesnt need Atira group anymore? Seems like a big waste of money as well.

Did anyone notice Green Court is renting underground parking spaces downtown(HA HA).OUCH they must be getting desperate.

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colorado1 5 years, 5 months ago

OMG, 10 years.....they should have started building the minute they tore down all the businesses and their livelihood and the vitality of the mountain area. All I can say is that it is BLEAK up there. Do you honestly think this will attract tourism? Repeat business? Our counsel members should drive through Breckenridge and drool over the vitality of their city. Our mountain area has been disintegrated - rebuilding immediately should be the focus.

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beverly lemons 5 years, 5 months ago

10 years, and no nightclubs? Steamboat, we can do better than this.

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