Steamboat Springs businessman Kevin Nerney stands outside Jade Summit and its upstairs bar, the Pirates Pub, which he runs with his wife, Kathy Nerney.  The city has prohibited Kevin Nerney from entering the establishment during business hours.

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Steamboat Springs businessman Kevin Nerney stands outside Jade Summit and its upstairs bar, the Pirates Pub, which he runs with his wife, Kathy Nerney. The city has prohibited Kevin Nerney from entering the establishment during business hours.

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Former liquor license holder working outside bar he can't enter

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Steamboat Springs businessman Kevin Nerney talks on a phone outside a tent he hopes will provide shelter from the elements near the jade Summit and the upstairs bar the Pirates Pub, which he runs along with his wife Kathy Nerney. Kathy Nerney was awarded a liquor license last week, however, a provision forbids her husband from being present at either establishment during business hours. He plans to do business outside because of the order.

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Steamboat Springs businessman Kevin Nerney stands outside the jade Summit and the upstairs bar the Pirates Pub, which he runs along with his wife Kathy Nerney. Kathy Nerney was awarded a liquor license last week, however, a provision forbids her husband from being present at either establishment during business hours. He plans to do business outside because of the order.

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— There's a new doorman at the Jade Summit restaurant and its upstairs bar, Pirate's Pub.

Kevin Nerney, original business owner and former liquor license holder at the Ski Time Square establishment, set up camp outside the restaurant's front door Thursday - complete with a tent, space heater and laptop - and said he plans to work there, seven days a week, until the Steamboat Springs City Council rescinds its decision to prohibit him from entering the business.

"This is my new office," said Nerney, who sat on a chair alongside a coffee pot, mug and cell phone on a small table next to a bucket for trash.

The previous City Council, acting as the city's Liquor License Authority, revoked Nerney's liquor license for the business Nov. 8 in response to allegations that he made unlawful sexual contact with a patron at his bar in February 2007. He was cleared of the charges in criminal court in August 2007, but the City Council held its own hearings and decided Nerney violated state liquor codes.

The council's Tuesday decision to grant a liquor license to Nerney's wife, Kathy Nerney, came with the condition that Kevin Nerney not be allowed on the premises during business hours.

The Jade Summit and Pirate's Pub is open from 11 a.m. to well past midnight, Kevin Nerney said. He is using nearby restaurants for bathroom breaks and is going home when the business is closed, rather than camping out overnight.

He said he plans to continue working outside the Jade Summit's front door "for the duration," until the condition is changed. The Nerneys are consulting with lawyers in Denver about a lawsuit or court challenge to the city's decision.

City Clerk Julie Jordan said the condition was "a collaborative staff idea" between her office, Steamboat Springs police Capt. Joel Rae and the city's legal counsel.

"It's found in state statutes that local liquor license authorities can place conditions of approval such as this on licenses," Jordan said Thursday. "We've verified it with the state of Colorado's liquor enforcement division."

The Division of Liquor/Tobacco Enforcement is part of the state's Department of Revenue. Section 12-47-601 of Part 6 of the Colorado Liquor Code references conditions of approval. The section states that any local licensing authority can issue penalties for violations of "any of the terms, conditions, or provisions of the license or permit issued by such authority."

Rae said the matter simply comes down to enforcing compliance with liquor laws.

"Being that Kathy's liquor license is no more than an arm's length extension of (Kevin Nerney's) liquor license : we felt it was necessary to have that stipulation that he not be allowed on the premises of the Pirate's Pub," Rae said. "We felt that was a very reasonable and justified stipulation."

Kathy Nerney said Thursday that despite the less than two months remaining in the ski season and the looming demolition of Ski Time Square, she has no plans to close the Jade Summit or Pirate's Pub.

On a sunny afternoon Thursday, Nerney spoke with passersby, including one man carrying a snowboard and a popped can of Coors Light.

"Hey, watch out for the open container laws around here," Nerney called. "Seriously."

- To reach Mike Lawrence, call 871-4233

or e-mail mlawrence@steamboatpilot.com

Comments

Jason Miller 6 years, 11 months ago

I thought there was no camping allowed inside city limits.The cops should tell him to along please.I know he just trying to be a pain in the A**,but the law is the law.

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zirkel 6 years, 11 months ago

Maybe the City can cite him for illegal camping? No... I'm being serious!

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digit1964 6 years, 11 months ago

give this guy a break.... there r 3 working meth labs in town and our cops are wasting time on this stupid situation ...... r we not supposed 2 protect our children?

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waylefts 6 years, 11 months ago

This guys is hilarious!!! Oh man! I hope the cabaret theater folks are keeping good notes of all of this. Thanks for keeping me thoroughly entertained Kevin and Kathy! You sailor, you!!

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

Boy it sure is a good thing Rae is keeping the real crimminals off the streets!!!!! What a joke and waste of taxpayer money

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CoJustice 6 years, 11 months ago

That kind of disparaging behavior is definitely a way to display someone's ability to continually make bad choices. Pretty much confirms there is no formula of change for the better.

Kind of looks like his need to stroke his ego is greater then his need to maintain his business and financial security.

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another_local 6 years, 11 months ago

This is kind of silly. He can still work in the place doing buying, planning, scheduling, prep, cleaning, marketing etc as long as he does it when the place is closed. Good grief, come in to work at 6AM and leave when the place opens. He will find the place never ran better as a result.

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letomayo 6 years, 11 months ago

How long is he not allowed to be in the bar during working hours is this a life sentence? I don't care for his antics either but I think another-loco is right about how it will run. I don't go there because there is no parking and everything over there is a hassel and the whole area is a mess. That area needs to supply enough parking if there will be much of an attraction to us locals but for me I'll probably never spend much time on the mountain area because it is a dead end with no turn around or drive through ability.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

Scooter: since we all know that it's the bar that usually keeps a restaurant afloat monetarily, I guess the eating public disagrees with your assessment of the food. It's stayed open this long without serving liquor and I personally think the food is great.

And to imagine that this man in now being harangued for exhibiting Civil Disobedience (something that has a long and distinguished history, right here in the USA) on something he went thru a court of law for and was found Not Guilty by a jury. No, I hope the Nerneys sue the City for all they can. That, I'm sure, will make people on this thread feel better: winning your tax dollars over.

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

Julie Jordan & Joel Raye have ALL the comments regarding this matter. And they tell the Nerney's its NOT PERSONAL????? Who are we kidding???? This IS PERSONAL & they are just digging themselves deeper & deeper. What are they going to do next, pull Kathys Lic Licence because Kevin was IN the area????? Give these guys a break. City Council is looking like FOOLS!!!!! Hey, and make sure (once again) that NO OTHER ESTABLISHMENT in Steamboat EVER had any problems, Liquor, Drugs, Illegal Touching etc.... cause if they did & someone squashed it....boy what a lawsuit that would be. Just remember what gos around....comes around. Loose lips sink ships

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scooter 6 years, 11 months ago

Please Kielbasa!!! The reason why it has stayed open is because the food is cheap...

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letomayo 6 years, 11 months ago

kiel civil disobedience is that because you disobey those in charge. Look what happens to those in this town who do that. They are immediately the enemy of those who think they make the rules and set the standards. I believe in civil disobedience and I am ashamed of the state our country is in because if you stick your head up it is the first to get shot off. I don't know Julie Jordan or Joel Raye but they must not have other important things to do of course the police here have it pretty good compared to real cops in larger cities. I guess it is all relative and for them this is a big deal. I worry that the Nerneys will turn off there public and customers but that is there right to do what they are doing. And does anyone know how long this council rules about Kevin is supposed to last?

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Jason Miller 6 years, 11 months ago

Hey justice262 what dont you just post under your real name Nerney.It is obvious your one them!

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hihoney07 6 years, 11 months ago

This story is evidence of how this man thinks that he is above the rules.

Letomayo, if you knew what Kevin THINKS he has the right to do, you wouldn't be on the fence or supportive in any way.

Hunterdog, he HAS a broom... it's on his face!

waylefts, amen!

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igtmybts_on 6 years, 11 months ago

i dont think so scooter

     yea the food is cheap but it is the best chinese in this town and ya kno what for "the food being horrible" why was the resturant packed the last 3 nights in a row and the bar? 4 deep across the whole thing 
so i think your idea just backfired
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fatpockets 6 years, 11 months ago

I'M NOT BAR PATRON, BUT THE FOOD IS AWSOME.ALWAYS. THESE PEOPLE PURCHASED PROPERTY HERE OVER 20 YRS. AGO,THINKING LIKE ALL OF US"WHAT A PLACE TO LIVE AND RETIRE"KEVIN IS A RETIRED F.D.N.Y. FIREFIGHTER. SEEING MORE ACTION AND REAL LIFE OR DEATH SITUATIONS THAN ALL OF STEAMBOATS POLICE AND FIRE DEPTS. PUT TOGETHER....... AND HE WAS A POLICEMAN PRIOR TO FIREFIGHTING..HAVE ANY OF YOU DOE YOES EVEN CONTACTED N.Y. SUPERVISORS???NO NO NO. WHY? BECAUSE THEY WOULD LAUGH AT YOU. I,WE HOPE THE NERNEYS GET NATIONAL ATTENTION ABOUT THIS LINCH MOB TYPE OF GOV. WE HAVE HERE IN STEAMBOAT....GET REAL HERE PEOPLE.......AS A REPAIR SHOP OWNER,I MADE A PROMISE TO THE NERNEYS THAT AS LONG AS I'M HERE REPAIRING VEHICLES,ALL OF THOSE CITY EMPLOYEES RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS HARRASSMENT VEHICLES WILL BE BLACK BALLED FROM ME PERSONALLY. TAKE EM TO DENVER CITY COUNCIL..I'M ALL FOR JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS, BUT WOW,,,PERSONAL GRUDGE OR WHAT??????YOU'LL NEVER FIND A NICER STRAIGHTER TALKEN,HONEST,FUNNY ,DEDICATED,TELL IT LIKE IT IS, TYPE OF PERSON THAN KEVIN. I HOPE THEY TAKE ALL TO THE CLEANERS.......AND ON YOURS AND MY DIME..

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kusellout 6 years, 11 months ago

If this tent's a rockin', don't come a knockin'.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

Hunterdog- So sitting on the back of a bus when it was against the law and not moving when told was childish also? (I'm only using an example, not making Kevin out to be a modern day Rosa Parks.) He's camping outside his own business because he was told he can't be in the building during business hours based on something that a court of law exhonerated him for, yet City Council didn't need as much proof.

That's pretty low saying they can punish him with less proof. How many people could then accused of something like that? Probably 90% of Steamboat. Say you are accused of stealing but have your pockets checked immediately, then even when nothing is found, you are barred from ever entering that establishment. Sound fair?

What's he going to do instead of being in his own business during working hours? It think it's a perfect example of civil disobedience. It has to do with a regulation handed down that was highly unfair. Thinking of a point on the other thread, what would happen if he ended up working in someone else's bar? Would the owner of that bar who hired him then be told they'd lose their liquor license for allowing him to work there?

Plus, why couldn't he just have been told he couldn't work the bar itself? Why couldn't he work the kitchen or as a host in the restaurant portion of the business?

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SilverSpoon 6 years, 11 months ago

keil, The answer to your last question. When you make up your own rules, regulations, ordinances on a whim; you don't need to put much thought into them.

Maybe they should mandate that the pirates pub become a chucky cheeze, complete with pool of balls.

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waylefts 6 years, 11 months ago

Apparently, this guy is got a bad back and it goes out on him around well rounded ladies. But he's a good firefighter.

I think he would make a better Captain.

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

OK first of all, if you "ladies" are all going to gossip, you better get your facts straight first. Kevin and Kathy DID take the allotted time for punishment of the original 9 days, although refused to admit gulit (there was no crime committed!) Then when city council decided to change it on them, they took um, lets see.... 3 months?!!?!?! Is that enough punishment for you!? Seeing as how busy city council and joel ray have been wrapped up in this... 2 women were close to stealing a million dollars from our pockets! (Thank God I am no longer a customer of Bank of America) Case in point... Someone can have a field day with stealing and/or drug abuse now that the SSPD seems to be wrapped up in this non-sense. And I only have one question for the dumb reporters who can't seem to get their facts straight either, why, if Kevin Nerney was proven INNOCENT IN A COURT OF LAW, do they continuously bring it up in EVERY SINGLE NEWS ARTICLE???? get over it! Nothing happened, a judge proved that, so come up with some new material!

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hihoney07 6 years, 11 months ago

Matt, what if, in court, the proof against Nerney was suppressed by a really slick lawyer, but he couldn't get it suppressed in city council? What if city council got the whole story and that is why they unanimously voted to revoke his license? And why, if he is so innocent, is the current city council upholding the previous decision? Put that in your pot and stew on it...

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

City council couldn't have the whole story because the president decided to "be absent without telling anyone" for the hearing. The Nerney's (no offence to their lawyer) didn't have a really slick lawyer. In fact, he screwed up.... A LOT! that's prob why they are getting a lawyer from denver to fix the mess he's put them in. The city council can't choose to override the laws put in place by the state or nation. If he's innocent, he's innocent... END OF STORY! They can't change the facts just because city council refused to believe the truth.

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hihoney07 6 years, 11 months ago

How would the president of the council's presence have changed the facts? HE didn't have the facts, eyewitnesses did. Not guilty, for lack of proof, is not innocent. Get YOUR facts straight.

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

there is no use in getting everyone's "panties in a bunch." If city council wants to make a circus out of this stunt, then the ringleader the Nerney's will be. I can't wait to watch this on Headline News! I want Nancy Grace's opinion on this! she'd laugh at the way steamboat runs their "government" if you can even call it that. You'll all be crying when the Nerney's get rich off of the stupidity of someone's opinion!

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hihoney07 6 years, 11 months ago

I believe city council would welcome the outside investigation. The truth would then come out about Nerney's moral character without everyone thinking that it is just personal on the city's part. Nerney has dug himself a real deep hole, and yet he keeps holding on to the shovel.

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

what hole has he dug himself into? is it the hole that city council put him in with their lies and lack of evidence. If you "know these facts" then you would know that these supposed eyewitnesses couldn't keeo there story straight in trial. They didn't even remember the night this happened! And they only blamed Kevin because these girls got caught by police and didn't have any other aliby but to lie and come up with this ridiculous story!

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below_me 6 years, 11 months ago

i have a question. maybe someone can shed some light on this. if you dont posess the moral character to hold a liqour license, how do you get to dress up in a costume and hang out with high school cheerleaders?

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hihoney07 6 years, 11 months ago

Oh my gosh, who are you and where are you getting this garbage? You obviously weren't there in the council meeting, I WAS. These girls will never forget that night for as long as they live. THEY stopped the police to report the incident, the police did not stop them! This ridiculous story, as you call it, has left permanent scars.

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424now 6 years, 11 months ago

Digit? Where are these labs? If you know something ACET doesn't then share it with them. We need to agressively eradicate any and all meth labs from this city our county and this country. Any help you can give to ACET will assist in making this happen.

Keil, Ms. Parks sat in the middle of that bus. God bless her soul. http://teacher.scholastic.com/rosa/sittingdown.htm

Thead, An American has the right to Assemble, Free Speach and the Pursuite of Happiness. The way we exicise these rights has been a beautiful thing to see. Civil disobediance has been the catalist for change in this country from the beggining. What this citizen is doing is an example of those rights in action. This citizen is attempting to effect change. You may not like him or appreciate his position but no-one has the right to tell him not to try.

How City Hall and the SSPD handle this demonstration will be a direct statement as to status of our rights as Americans in SKI TOWN USA. We should all of us pay close attention to this.

I for one, am watching closely.

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

thats an awesome question. If the SSHS cheerleaders feel safe and unafraid of him, why can he not obtain a liquor license?! And why can he be permitted to enter people's homes and condo complexes if he is so "unsafe, and this horrible criminal?!"

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snowysteamboat 6 years, 11 months ago

Civil Disobedience is not camping out on private property you don't own. That property is owned by Steamboat STS Development. He is trespassing as well as being an idiot.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

hihoney07- I happen to know the Nerneys' lawyer personally. I consider him neither slick nor a screw-up. I consider him a stand-up guy and have worked with him onstage at times but never have needed to retain his services as a lawyer. I also know Kevin and Kathy personally, and consider them to be great people, too. Being that I an not anonymous, I can honestly say I wasn't there when all this happened, nor can anyone say I was. I speak for the people I know on a personal basis and not from hanging out at the bar/restaurant all the time. All I can say is that Kevin was put thru the equivalent of "double jeopardy" without going to a thru a court trial the second time.

Plus, if a court of law should feel the need to supress evidence for a reason, then that tells me that the evidence itself may have been in question. I had a friend on the jury (a woman) who said the whole thing was a waste of time. I tend to believe her, in that aspect.

So there's no what-if involved here in my mind.

(424- my mistake; thanks for the correction. My point was she sat where she was not supposed to, though. Thank you for expanding on it!)

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speakingup 6 years, 11 months ago

Justice, I agree with Honey, you seem to be referring to a different story. You might want to fill us in on what you're talking about.

It seems that many of you aren't recognizing that a liquor license is a privilege not a right. Having a good moral character and being not guilty of a crime may be two different things. I have to assume that the council believed that Nerney was not of good moral character. To me, his present behavior seems to support their view of him.

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

Hi Honey: Permanent scars????? I sat by and watched some "social worker" claim she was cured. Yep thats right, read the transcripts at the Quazi Trial.... She met with him,(the social worker) he came up with POST TRUMATIC STRESS SYNDROME & wa-la...poof in one single visit she was cured!!!!!The next visit she had with him was right after her sister testified in court (the real trial) & changed her story 5 TIMES (seems she was pretty mad at her) Funny, that sister wasn't present in the Quazi Trial, she testified via phone. Must be easier to get your story straight, reading from a script.

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fatpockets 6 years, 11 months ago

WOW, I'VE NEVER BEEN ON A VACATION TO A PLACE WHERE THE BAR SEEN WAS OUT OF CONTROL....WET T-SHIRT CONTESTS,WET BUTT CONTESTS ETC. ETC. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY GET IN TROUBLE. MOST TIMES LAW ENFORCMENT WAS EVEN PRESENT...BUT I GUESS STEAMBOAT SPRINGS IS A VERY SPECIAL VACATION RESORT.ONLY PREISTS AND NUNS ARE EXCEPTED HERE..."WE'RE SPECIAL." BUT FOR REAL I GUESS WHEN WE LIVE IN A TOWN THAT SEE'S MINIMAL CRIME,OUR BARNY FIFF'S HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO.. WHAT IF A GAY PRIDE GROUP WANTED TO HAVE A GATHERING? WOULD YOU TURN THEM AROUND AT RABBIT EARS,BIG ROAD BLOCK AND ALL.I'M ASHAMED TO SAY I LIVE IN STEAMBOAT SPRINGS RIGHT NOW...OH AND I KNOW MY CAP LOCKS ARE ON,MY FINGERS ARE SCREAMING

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

Hey Belown-me: Kevin has done a GREAT JOB as Salty the Sailor. Been to any of the GAMES??????? Just because a few City Council Members (who were ousted out of office the day before) feel he is not of Good Moral Character, doesn't mean he can't participate in School Activities. Just talk to the BOOSTER CLUB. They Love Him. He does a GREAT JOB>>>>END OF STORY. But just curious.......what would you like Kevin to do now.....No Job, No Visable means of Supporting his family, don't think after City Councils decision not be be allowed in his own Rest/Bar he'll be able to be gainfully employed here in Steamboat.Just wondering what you think should happen to Kevin.

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

does armchair seem to clarify anything to you knuckleheads who claim to know it all?! read the damn transcripts yourself and you'll see what both armchair and i have both seen. I don't lie when i said the girl couldn't get her story straight. seems another tends to agree with me as well!

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below_me 6 years, 11 months ago

i was just asking a question. seems to be a moral character conflict. he either has it or he doesnt. if he does he should have his liquor lic. if he doesnt he shouldnt be hanging with school kids. in answer to your other question maybe he could drive a bus.

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fatpockets 6 years, 11 months ago

WOW SPEAKING UP, A LIQUOR LICENSE IS A PRIVILEGE, SO IS A DRIVERS LICENSE. AND LOOK AT ALL THE MAJOR DRUNKS WE HAVE IN THIS TOWN STILL DRIVING...."MULTIPLE" OFFENDERS AND STILL ON THE ROAD..NICE JOB FOLKS...HOW COME THIS GOES ON IN OUR LITTLE BUBBLE???NICE REALLY NICE...ALCOHOL CAUSES SO MUCH TROUBLE,ANYWHERE.... WHAT'S NEXT STEAMBOAT?

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

What about those 2 ladies & the $900,000????? I know innocent until proven guilty, but if this IS true I'm gonna worry more about their morale character, not Kevin's. Hey---below me, do you think THEY should be at school funtions. How about fund raising??????

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

moral character has nothing to do with it... anyone been following the embezzlement story... those women were "of good moral character" and look what they did... maybe kevin who perceives himself as having less than "good moral characteristics" is better off holding a liquor liscense than these women who seemed to be well trusted in the community but look what they did when no one was looking. Maybe taking a walk on the wild side will do everyone some good! (oh and i bet they wouldn't have gotten as much money as they did, if the police weren't so concerned with where Kevin was and if he was "obeying the liquor liscense or not.")

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

Too bad we can't hear from the jury @ the REALTRIAL. You know the people who were chosed by both lawyers. They heard both side of the story without being bias. They seem to be of GOOD MORAL CHARACTER. Any of these people want to run for City Council. How about the Lic Licence Board. Heard that there is an opening there. Oh wait....maybe Joel Raye wants to be on that board. He's got his nose into everything these days. He also seems to think that he's Passed the Bar Exam too!!!!!

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

Oh an hunterdog, about your earlier comment about having underagers checking id's and letting their friends in is complete BS! I know first hand that the ONLY person allowed to check id's besides kathy or kevin is there children... who happen to point out all of the kids with fakes and/or no id. I know first hand that Marykate has hand picked people she knew had fakes and reported them to police. She's also gotten into a physical fight with one girl who forced her way into the bar without an id. I believe some punches were thrown before the girl was kicked out and arrested for illegally entering and causing problems. I also know this girl sent a much older and more powerful man to the hospital because she threw such a fit with Marykate, that when the older gentleman stepped in to break up the situation, she blewout his knee. I guess the only people the Nerney's can trust is there family, so forgive me for saying they'd be safer having there own children bounce than some other bonehead who is going to get them in trouble. Get YOUR story straight!

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seven 6 years, 11 months ago

Summary: alcohol=morals. Never. Same with drugs.

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michyah 6 years, 11 months ago

7 agreed, but why is it none of us learn from the past?

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

maybe no one learns because they aren't receiving the proper punishment! Maybe, if the courts actually got the bad guys and left the good guys alone, people would understand and respect the laws and have better morals. But what people can get away with they will continue to do so until they are shown otherwise. And those that are wrongfully accused get even. They can never get back their original life since it was once ruined... so they must get even.

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hihoney07 6 years, 11 months ago

justice262- you are right about proper punishment, but the problem is that in this case this is the only punishment that he got! The court let him get away with what he did, don't say he was wrongfully accused! What reason would the victim have had to "make up" what he did to her? There was no DUI, and she had never been to that bar or met him before in her entire life??? Why would this be something someone seeks out to accuse someone of. Think of how humiliated she felt?

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sugarcone22 6 years, 11 months ago

I just swung by and saw Kevin and his new office. Some tourists were busy taking his picture and laughing and joking with him about it (guess they live in a small town too and when they get home it'll be all the talk of the town when everyone asks how their vacation was.) Anyway he said it isn't a publicity stunt or civil disobedience, it's just the only way he can run the business. If he takes the checkbook home then he has to carry 27 clipboards home to pay each individual account and still has to be at the restaurant to meet face to face with suppliers anyway so just pray the weather stays nice for the guy. Any of you bloggers out there want to talk to him you know where to find him. As for the cheerleader thing let him try something in front of 500 parents

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bloggyblog 6 years, 11 months ago

seven, George Washington- one of our great american patriots, also was the largest producer of liquor in the country during his terms. my point is; liquor isn't what makes people evil. it just accentuates a pre-exsisting condition.

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fatpockets 6 years, 11 months ago

SO HAVE ANY OF OUR FAITHFUL LEADERS(NOT)INQUIRE BACK TO N.Y. YET?OH THAT'S RIGHT, THEY JUST MAKE THINGS UP AS THEY MOVE ALONG COVERING ONE MISTAKE WITH ANOTHER. WHAT'S NEXT HERE IN MAYBERRY. MAYBE THIS SUMMER WE'LL SEE OUR POLICE TACKLING KIDS ON THE CEMENT FOR RIDING A BYCYCLE ON THE SIDEWALK. AFTER ALL IT IS THE LAW....WATCH OUT KIDS..

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

don't laugh... they actually gave Kevin's son a ticket for riding his bike on the sidewalk back when the Nerney's first moved to town... The police will do anything out of pure bordem!

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

oh honey, if your daughter was so "humiliated" and her story was, the supposed truth... then why didn't you win in court... and why couldn't she keep her story straight?!

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fatpockets 6 years, 11 months ago

OH EVEN BETTER,THEY'LL PROBABLY REQUIRE THAT A COP CAR BE POSTED IN THE PARKING LOT UP THERE.KEVIN'S A LOOSE CANON. I'M SCARED NOW TO EVEN GO NEAR THE MOUNTAIN. MY CHILDS NOT GOING TO YHE LAST DAY OF TRAILBUSTERS TOMMAROW, KEVINS NEAR BY.....WE LOVE YOU KEVIN AND KATHY.. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU TWO ON NATIONAL TELEVISION..

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

whether there was a lack of evidence or a lack of proof, the bottom line is the girl didn't have a case and the court unanimously found kevin innocent. I don't know about you but the only thing she should be humiliated about is the fact that she lost and caused all these problems. She should be appologizing to the Nerney's

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Jason Miller 6 years, 11 months ago

One more thing feceiciousness is not a real word.

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

oh you know the police will be by the restauraunt every day either handing out a citation for loitering or camping in public.... something mundane just to harrass the family and cause them more undue stress. I think they actually enjoy watching Kathy's blood pressure get raised or the sight of Kevin's veins popping out of his neck. I think it turns city council on... rarr!

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fatpockets 6 years, 11 months ago

I THINK I'M HEADING UP THERE TO LET OUT A BIG CHEER FOR KEVIN, AND MAYBE SPEED THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE,MAYBE EVEN WITH A BEER BETWEEN MY LEGS....DEFINETLY...I'M DONE FOR THE NIGHT,I FINISHED MY TWELVE PACK. TIME TO DRIVE CROSS TOWN,SEE YA SOON KEVIN.

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sugarcone22 6 years, 11 months ago

And lets not forget Kathy & Kevin's son getting ticketed for NOT WEARING HIS SEATBELT CORRECTLY. If I remember this went all the way up to courts & the judge wanted to throw it out, but the DA wanted to push this further. What a fiasco this was for Kathy. But you gotta give her credit, she fought & it was thrown out. Seems like such a trivial thing, but MIP's & MIC's get less attention here in Steamboat (for some people's kids they don't even make it to court) Did everyone know that there is something here in Steamboat called Diversion. If your kids gets in trouble, (and your last name is not Nerney) you can go S/W the DA and (if you keep your nose clean for 6 months) it gets wahed off your record. Don't get me wrong, I believe kids need a second chance. We all make mistakes, however this should be available to ALL. Don't you think?

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424now 6 years, 11 months ago

Sugar,

Yes it should. We all know that in youth, peer pressure is king. There is also that learning thingy that occurs between 0-18.

Do you honestly think the DA would have let that kid take diversion? This hole thing smells to high heaven. A reciprocal law suite from Nerney's may be just the fresh breeze we need to clear the air.

Ahh, but then of course they will be vilified for taking the tax payers dime. Hmmm, Da%&ed if you do and &$mned if you don't. Talk about double jeopardy. They'll have to get enough to find a new town to live in.

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fatpockets 6 years, 11 months ago

LAST WEEKEND,WE WENT TO THE SUMMIT FOR DINNER AND BOY THAT PARKING LOT WAS REALLY BAD. WHO MAINTAINS THAT PLACE?OH AND THE FOOD WAS AWSOME AS USUAL.

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rjsess05 6 years, 11 months ago

Go Nerney/Salty! - I admire anyone who stands up for their rights. I for one am going to eat at his restaurant to support him. (and I don't even like oriental food!) This family has done a lot for the school in the short time they have been here.

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

I went to the place for dinner once 2 years ago and got a huge dose of Kevin Nerneys rudeness, the food and service was bad. There was another local couple at the bar and the gal, who works at a nearby restauraunt, also was blown away by Kevins bad attitude. I never went back, and quite frankly am surprised this place still exists. But my question to those of you who are calling the young victim here a liar is, what is her motive? Is she after money? Why would she put herself through the grief? Oh, and there is no double jeopardy here, the criminal trial is one thing and the City Councel's liquor license approval requirements are in no way one in the same or carry the same possible punishments or can be considered 2 bites at the apple. We the people have the right to expect our local government to protect us against unworthy individuals holding privileges such as liquor licenses or drivers licenses. Fatpockets seems to have firsthand experience with one of these lost privileges.

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bloggyblog 6 years, 11 months ago

hunterdog, blog occasionaly slips into the 1'rst person. apologies for the momentary lapse.

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424now 6 years, 11 months ago

Seeuski

I don't know Kevin personally. I have only seen him in passing. He always seemed decent enough.

Your argument sounds a little weak. What I hear is,

Even if the Judicial system finds you not guilty the City reserves the right to judge you, again, for the same offense. The license revocation was done for the acts he was cleared of in a court of law, yes or no?

If we cant get those Nerneys in a court of law, Then lets get them in the Council Chambers.

If a Court of Law finds a man not guilty of a crime. How does City Hall Justify punishing him for the same offence?

Have there been any other corraborating incidents documented by law inforcement? Has this man displayed a history of such incidents?

How do you justify punishing this guy for a crime he was cleared of?

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424now 6 years, 11 months ago

Bolggyblog,

424now appreciates the inherent humor of bloggyblogs writing style.

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

424now, The liquor board does not need to first take a complaint to court in order to revoke a liquor license. Look at the periodic stings set up to enforce ID'ing alcohol users in verious establishments. These don't require court action and no crime has occured, they just haven't followed the standards set up under the guidelines. Similarly, the action taken against the Nerneys did not require a guilty verdict in the court of law, just a liquor board hearing. Just like OJ Simpson lost his civil case and was not subject to double jeopardy because civily it can only be monetary damages and not penal damages associated with the criminal courts. In Nerneys case, he was not found criminally guilty but the Liquor Board found that civily, so to speak, he warranted penalties. If you don't understand the differences and the rights of the public well, not much more to be said. As far as my own experience at his restauraunt over 2 years ago, are you going to say hey this guy was nice to me so you must be wrong? I still feel suspicious about the incident that may have occured against the young lady that has triggered this whole discussion. I also beleive that the Counsel would not just go after this guy cause they don't like him. I won't judge my neighbors(counsel members)that harshly.

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

424now, I have heard of some pretty crazy incidents up there since you have asked, but have never been interested enough to use the freedom of information act and request the police incident reports.

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

okiegal, I have heard of those terrible things also.

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okiegal 6 years, 11 months ago

so what reason could the city and police have to "harrass" the nearneys?

perhaps they have info YOU don't? maybe? kinda? perhaps?

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

NOT OF GOOD MORAL CHARACTER???? What about last summer, when a backpack was left @ the Pirates Pub. The Nerneys (trying to find the rightful owner) opened it to find NOT 1 but 2 large zip-lock bags of "POT"!!!! They called the Steamboat Springs Police right away & they came to pick it up. When the owners of the "said backback" came in later that nite to claim their "personal items" they got a BIG DOSE of "GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE & DON"T COME BACK". They could have smoked it, sold it, or even gave it away. BUT THEY DID THE RIGHT THING!!!!! But we NEVER read that story in the Pilot. If you don't believe this story just ask the officer who picked up the "stuff" Officer Brown. Just ask yourself WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IN THIS SITUATION??????? Then ask yourself is KEVIN of GOOD MORAL CHARACTER? Hey Louie...What would you have done...back in the days of the CAMEO????? One can only guess!!!

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

I know someone who got roofied but made it to a cab and got home. I don't know if the Nearneys owned the place then, it was 1999. Anyone who lived here then should remember the news reports of a couple of those incidents. She was sick for a couple of days.

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okiegal 6 years, 11 months ago

Have there been any other corraborating incidents documented by law inforcement? Has this man displayed a history of such incidents?

absolutly YES!!!!!

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outsiderlookingin 6 years, 11 months ago

Does any one in this town or on this blog know anything at all about these people or are you just spewing venom for the hell of it? The Nerney's didn't get here until 2001 (remember the whole 9-11 thing). Man this is getting disgusting. How can you talk about something when you clearly haven't got a clue. Let's do some math- Records show that the Jade Summit took possession of 1890 Ski Time SQ. in Sept. of 2003. and opened 11/11 of '03. (Tom Ross's article is still posted on the wall) The building was unoccupied for 5 years prior except for a short stint by Marco's when he had the Bistro At Mattie Silkes. So apparently the bldg had no tenants after 98 or 99 depending on the months. So how can accusations be made if you don't have the facts( or some resemblance thereof ) Remember believe half of what you here and less then that of what you read.
By the way Are there any police reports of this roofy thing and where is this Dan the man guy? Oh wait what do they know, last year the murder rate went up 100 % and this year the bank robbery rate went up 100% just this week.

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

OK...OK... I have read sooooo much about the RUMORS rather than the FACTS!!!!!! Enough is enough.... Someone should contact Ski Town USA & have them remove the BIG BILLBOARD down there in GOLDEN that states...."100% Friendlier"......because it ain't!!!!!! Who would want to move here??????

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

So I guess then I didn't eat at Mattie Silks at 1890 Ski Time Square through the 99/2000 season! Oh, several times. And I had no cause to check the ownership of the building or restaurant. But I did find this article indicating Mattie Silks was operating into 2003. http://www.exploresteamboat.com/news/... As I sais before, I have personal knowledge of a friend having had something put in her drink that messed her up and made her sick. I did not say I knew who did it, if I did g-d help him.

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

OK. I saved the wrong link. Here is proof that Mattie Silks ran into 2001. http://www.mybrokers.com/shelleystanford/

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okiegal 6 years, 11 months ago

like I said kielbassa, I know 'Amy' and her case quite well.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

okiegal- That's fine if you know "Amy," but you own post said it was Dan, not Kevin. How can you blame Kevin for an action Dan did? Dan's worked in many bars...are all those owners who hired him in the past in on it, too?

So was it Dan or Kevin? Are you changing your story now? And if the City had info we don't, why wasn't it ALL put on the table during the hearing? Sounds pretty suspicious to me.

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Jason Miller 6 years, 11 months ago

I have to agree with seeuski.Mattie Silks was running in 2001 because a friend from CMC was washing dishes there.

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okiegal 6 years, 11 months ago

the roofy incidents happened in the last two years

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okiegal 6 years, 11 months ago

since there were so many roofy incidents I am sure there are some on record at the police as I know of at least 7 women that reported it to the police.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

okiegal- Yeah, that's what I thought your answer would be.

jester- Thank you for helping show that all the links you found pertain to general, but helpful information, and that the the majority pertain to downtown (unnamed) restaurants according to the articles- not the Jade Summit. The last one mention a "new" restaurant from Dec 2005 (article May 2006). Since we know the Summit opened in 2003, I guess that depends on how long you consider a place new.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

Funny- not what I read from the article. You're just full of knowledge that nobody prints, aren't you? No wonder your posts keep getting deleted. Plus, I don't consider a restaurant new after 1 year. That's just me, though.

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

Kielbasa or Mathew, You should say, We people here in Steamboat stand together against punks and rapists and care about those who are victimized while trying to have a good time at local restaurants and bars. But saying,"Sorry, but we here in Steamboat are NOT friendly to people accusing other people of a crime with absolutely no proof". Are you serious? What do you need a video? There are too many victims of this crime spree to support your silly view.

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spukomy 6 years, 11 months ago

The only reason I can think of for the City Council to bar Kevin from the Jade, is they think this is eliminating the risk of him acting inappropriately.

This after he was found not guily by a Criminal Court. But that wasn't good enough for the C.C., they saw fit to punish him for having an allegation of improper actions.

They became the second jury to try him. They scheduled two sessions, weeks apart, to hear the arguments. King Louie didn't tell anyone he was going on vacation or a different date could have been used for the second meet. Instead, two of the seven jurors (Louie and Brenner) were not in on the vote. And Kevin loses by one vote.

I'm sure the odds of Kevin having this type of incident happen again are almost zero. I guess C.C. diagrees. They must think keeping Kevin outside will keep the Big Bad Wolf from hurting anyone else. Sounds a bit personal to me.

There should be a rule that no C.C. members can be part of the Liquor Liscense Authority. It should not be run by people with political agends.

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

Just spent the evening w/Kathy updating her about this evenings blogs. I have to say (at first ) she was visably upset, but then began to laugh. She said, "they are talking about MY windows....whats next.....my dog????? So she asked me to please let people know that she really appreciates the positive comments, and would like to thank you all in person. As for all the negative, false crap.... Quote: Bring it on...but don't be a coward....I'm NOT afraid of a challenge....come say it to my face....and show me who you really are & bring your facts...police reports, measurements of my windows, etc. As for New Years Eve...the Pilot will confirm her NON ALCOHOL AD which ran in the papers for 2 DAYS...It Said "Party Like it was 1929" with A Non-Alcohol Party...These people who complained, have got to be kidding...she even had a DJ. And yes they did have a Sparkeling Cider Toast. Now whats wrong with that? Tell me again why Kevin is of Poor Moral Character?????

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armchairqb 6 years, 11 months ago

Back to New Years Eve....When Kevins Lic License was taken away....all the bottles had to be removed from the shelves.....By order of the Police Department (and they did check this out) So if this Group of People came into the BAR on New Years Eve.....What was the FIRST CLUE that they were not going to be receiving Alcohol????? So PLEASE (for Kathy's sake) Stop the BS comments that are meaningless & cruel. Lets stick to the facts, honest & true. Oh yeah....I also asked Kathy what diet she was on (since she lost sooo much weight) She calls it the City Council Diet!!!!! What a Community we live in....I think I'm gonna put my house up for sale.......today!!!!!

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outsiderlookingin 6 years, 11 months ago

So you were invited over to Kevins house & NOW you are commenting on the wrong size windows....some friend you were.......I got $50 bucks says your wrong.....Steamboat Springs Fire Department helped out Kevins family when 9/11 happened...They installed ALL the windows, Betcha they are ALL up to code. You guys have nothing better to do, and nothing else to get this guy on.....But his windows???....PRETTY LAME....GET A LIFE!!!!!!!

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

okie- Whatever. Obviously, this was never proven otherwise he'd be in jail. It would be a crappy employer to not stick up for an employee without irrefutable proof. Hell, I've been arrested 3 or 4 times as a juvenile and now have proven myself to friends, co-workers, etc., to be worthy of their trust again. In fact, I'm more security-conscience than ever because I knew what I did was wrong, and know to look out for it in others.

I guess you must believe the new conspiracy that Pam and Terri were in on the embezzlement with some higher-ups just because they hired them. In fact, the Bank of the West higher-ups must be in on it, too, since they hired them after they left Alpine Bank, but hadn't been charged with anything yet. In fact, they must have been in collusion with the victims themselves because it took the victims years to recognize money was taken. Is that how it all should go? No...I don't think so.

The police were only following the Council edict. I don't blame police for doing their job. So far, whatever sting operation you seem to be aware of (and blabbing it online when nobody else seems to know about it, thereby completely destroying the sting credibility) hasn't produced anything you can hold against Kevin. Come up with absolute proof, I just might change my mind. Until such time as this is proven, I have no reason to believe an anonymous person on this site over a person I know.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

First line- "Obviously, this was never proven otherwise (Kevin)he'd be in jail." Just so as not to be mistaken who I meant.

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

Kielbasa, If these incidents were only encountered by one person I might have doubt about whether it was true, but there are several, no many, women who were attacked with this stuff including a close friend of mine so here is a site that may interest you as to what these ladies went through under this stuff and depending on what was used on them the difficulty detecting the drugs once they leave the system.

http://www.4women.gov/faq/rohypnol.htm

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seeuski 6 years, 11 months ago

Kielbasa, If as described by okiegal"he was approached about his bartender many times by many different people and he always defended him.he was approached by boyfreinds, brothers, fathers etc etc" then he bares serious responsibility for any incidents that would have occured after he was made aware of the bartenders actions. I was told this bartender was eventually arrested. As a restaurant and bar owner I would not tolerate or take any chance if several people warned me of this type of thing. Just defending his employee as you suggest is not acceptable. Some times honorable people must make difficult decisions and fire people who have been accused by more than one person of a crime. Sorry but I would have to err on the side of caution and protect my clientele, my business and myself.

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okiegal 6 years, 11 months ago

thats fine with me if you don't believe me. I'm just trying to get the point out that the Nearneys are not the innocent victims of a witch hunt that they would like everyone to believe.

the police and council have reasons for wanting the nearneys without a liquor license. Why do you think that is??? innocent victims???

what could the innocent hero like nearneys possibly have done to deserve the council and police ire?

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okiegal 6 years, 11 months ago

kie- Whatever. Obviously, this was never proven otherwise he'd be in jail. It would be a crappy employer to not stick up for an employee without irrefutable proof.

thats the beauty of roofies....there is no proof.

it took a long time to get the guy arrested as he continued to work at Pirates pub

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oldskoolstmbt 6 years, 11 months ago

ok...on the last nerney forum elk2 made a ' right on' comment and it was removed (why im not sure)..ANYWAY, it was geared toward a certain member of city council (i won't mention names in hopes this does not get removed) and how this behavior (nerney's proven innocent charges)has been around forever in this valley ...ie:tugboat, old town pub, dos,...but who would go after the BIG boys?..i guess kevin needs to become a city council member and a big time realitor to have your past erased, just like elk's blog!

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jim_kook 6 years, 11 months ago

It's a shame that our local small town politics are still served by special interests, with less at stake than the national ones. A headshot and popularity contest usually wins. for a business there, the season to make hay is short, so they are basically getting a life sentence.

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airmanpat 6 years, 11 months ago

well, don't you think those were city councils intentions... to drag it out just long enough that even if the Nerney's did win the trial, City Council wins overall because they still suceeded by having them lose so much money. Now that they are back in business, they only have 6 straight weeks to make up for months of lost profits. And although they have been super busy since the re-opening (I guess not enough people believe the neg. side of the story, otherwise the place would be empty) they will NEVER be able to make up for all those lost days!

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Kevin Nerney 6 years, 11 months ago

I've got enough crap to deal with on the cold street to get in the middle of the assinine debate. However I would like to thank the supporters on my side ( they know the real deal) The detractors on the other side are morons and don't deserve my time and even with logical proof will always be idiots and not sway from their misguided small mindiness. That said, NO EMPLOYEE OF MINE WAS EVER ARRESTED ON MY WATCH!!!!!!!!! The only Dan on the payroll was run out of town by inuando(sp) and is living happily back in Michigan. I have 10,000 dollars to the first person who finds a window in my house that isn't up to code!!!! I'm not leaving town no matter how hard some may push. UH? whats that I here oh that 's the sound of the cash register going cha-ching,cha-ching (I can here it all the way out here in the parking lot) Its's just a shame I have to give a portion of it to the illustrious city crimminals (I mean coffers) in the form I sales tax revenue. gotta go run my business

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jnerney 6 years, 11 months ago

No one is perfect. Judging by the comments on this blog, it seems Steamboat has more people that are not then most. Reading this, I imagine even NYC is a safer place then Steamboat. Some on this blog might think that is because Kevin and Kathy moved out.... ;-) Truth is, I have heard some of this story from Kevin, Kathy and family, but they did not say much as they thought is was frivolous. After hearing that he was proven innocent, not much more to say. Kevin is a blue collar guy that worked his ass off to take care of his family and wife. Those that truly know them, know neither would hurt or say a bad word about anyone. My brother may be a pain in the ass sometimes, (spoken like a true older brother), but he would go 50 miles out of his way to help someone who needed it. After risking his life for 20 years helping others in the greatest city in the world, he built his house out there with his own two hands. Kevin thought it would be heaven on earth. He loves the country, the environment and I guess now, most of the citizens.
From what I see here, seems like it is people with nothing better to do and the money to do it, picking on someone who doesn't fit their mold. I wish I had the time to come out there and sit with my brother for a while. My personality is a little different. I do not smile as much as he does and can recognize a person who is no good faster then him. What we both do know is this: when you are within your rights, no one can mess with you, and **** them if they try.

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igtmybts_on 6 years, 11 months ago

thank you jnerney finaly someone from the outside of steamboat with a real world out look on things and knows what is up

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jnerney 6 years, 11 months ago

Joe, Not even problem, your father is a good man. Love him and listen to him as he loves you. Call me if you need to. Luv ya like I love my own.

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jnerney 6 years, 11 months ago

No problem. Sounds like those current colorado people forgot what made the state famous. (most of them probably ended up there because of successful relatives) Mike and I would be the first to kick his butt if need be, but we are also the first to help him kick butt. No man/father/business person is an island. I am sure not many there read that book........... Miss you guys, think of you often, you know the rest.

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oldskoolstmbt 6 years, 11 months ago

smile on ur brother...everybody..get together right now...good luck kevin...i don't know u...but i do know stmbt for the past 25 years, and my energy be with u...what a can of worms!!!

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factsfirst 6 years, 11 months ago

okiegal - you get censored alot.

BTW, DTM lives on 8th street.

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jnerney 6 years, 11 months ago

One last comment. If people believed in what they were saying, like any Nerney, they would not remain anonymous? They would state their real name. As an honest person, I cannot understand why they would hide?

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oldskoolstmbt 6 years, 11 months ago

jnerney...im writing because i have lived here for 25 years and know the bar/restaurant scene..all too well. i wish ur bro well..and have friends who do know him(with a smile)....as a graduate of sshs, concering your nephew's desicion...it's more than just stmbt, i would hope....defending our freedom is leaps and bounds above this forum...urbrodeservesmore...

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jnerney 6 years, 11 months ago

No doubt, I am sure Kevin would love you if he met you. When my nephew s of age, i believe he will ake the right decision for himself. My comment was meant reflect to the people who are harrasing my brother's family, without regard to the law. I hope to be out there in the near future and would love to have you introduce yourself. I would be the good looking Nerney in the tent.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

JNerney- I heard Joe was looking to go into the service after graduation and wish him the best. He's seems to be a good kid and I'm sure he'll do well. I live a couple doors down from Kevin and Kathy and they're great neighbors! Thanks for adding the good thoughts into this crapfest!

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wizzer 6 years, 11 months ago

It is a crime what the city has done to Kevin, it is called theft. No government in the free world should have the ability to take a man's business away based on hearsay. I hope justice is served as I am dismayed that our city government has allowed a few to indulge themselves with their power. I have lived in Steamboat for over 30 years and have never felt more ashamed of those we have elected.

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airmanpat 6 years, 11 months ago

you don't KNOW what went down... So stop your lying! We all know what motor boatin' is, (any person who watched the Wedding Crashers would know that) but just knowing the definition doesn't accuse an innocent man! Give up the harrassment already! I can't wait to see what happen to your life in the future... just remember, every dog has his day.. what goes around, comes around 2 fold! You deserve to sit in jail after all the problems you have caused the nerney's. get a grip and quit wasting your life away hiding behind a computer screen. Isn't there a job you should be doing to make this community better?

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airmanpat 6 years, 11 months ago

you should watch what you say, honey... those comments could get you arrested in this town.... or worse! watch out!

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airmanpat 6 years, 11 months ago

look at the soup natzi... he's a jerk but look at his overflow of cash. obviously people must like "jerks" because enough people enjoy the restraunt/bar to have it overflowing with customers that contine their support.

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justice262 6 years, 11 months ago

the soup natzi is FAMOUS for his carelessness of his customers, yet people travel from all over to visit it and get a taste of this jerk. I agree with you airman. Last night I was at the bar and there were a bunch of people who just got to town from, Ohio? i think. They read the papers and got themself aquainted with this "issue" and still came to show there support. Its funny how people all across the country know about the idiocy of this story and have more support than do the amount of people in the 'boat. But you know what, the Nerney's don't need steamboats support. There are millions more people out there in this country that do know the laws and when people try to take them into their own hands (as this is the result of city council taking it into their own hands.)

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424now 6 years, 11 months ago

I always like to remind a thread that this is simply my opinion.

What I find interesting is the vehemence of the comments coming from the negative side of this debate. All the deleated comments give testiment to their content.

If it is actually an employee that was thought to have committed some kind of offense and the said employee is no longer an employee (for whatever reason) of the establishment and the owner of the establishment was cleared of any criminal actions,

Then why is this citizen being persecuted by the CC?

Seeuski, I do understand the difference in criminal and civil litigation. Normally civil proceedings are held in the courtroom not council chambers. Usally in civil cases the plaintiff is the injured party. Again I ask,

Then why is this citizen being persecuted by the CC?

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steamboatsconscience 6 years, 11 months ago

dont worry about bore its either planning its next sockpuppet ID or vacationing in Cuba

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BoatMaster 6 years, 11 months ago

Here is the deal:

Nerney took the Big City way of doing business to a small town. Looks like it is not working.

Many things that passed in New York, like lousy food, and questionable behavior have finally caught up with them.

I have been exposed to Kevin being very nice and two hours later being served lousy food and his bad attitude towards patrons.

Now all of his family and friends are trying to say what a great guy he is. The problem is he has such a history of the big city behaviour and a abrasive (to be nice ) personality that it has finally caught up with him.

Kevin, you need to chill out a little and then make friends again. If you continue to be a pain in the rump to everyone it will only escelate to worse postion. Small towns do not work the same as New York.

To his family that makes statements about posting anonymousy get a clue. We have every right on this forum to post as we please. You have NO right to dictate the rules. We do not want a crazy man that is living in a tent to camp outsied our house or place of work. It is a great possibility.

To his family again, if you dont want to knwo what people are saying then stay away from the forum. It is your own fault for getting angry. What is the saying about the television and Radio n" if you don't like what you hear then change the channel"

So in conclusion. - Nerney family, we can post as we please, you do not set the rules, you can't

Kevin, chill out - you look ilke a freak the more crazy things you do. over time you can rebuild yourself if you manage yourself better now.

Nerney Family - if you don't like what you read then don't read it.

Others - Cheers. And keep uo your right to voice your opinioin

P.S.. what happened to Sbvor...I think Kielbassa put a plug in it with his earlier post towards him. Have not heard a word from him since. He is probably trolling some other forums.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

Well, after just coming from the Jade Summit, it seems that business is doing just fine. All this hub-bub seems to be increasing their business, from the look. LOL!

And the Thai Curry Shrimp was great, and the service wonderful!

So do as BoatMaster says: keep posting! Free advertising!!

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STEMBOATwannabe 6 years, 11 months ago

What did happen to Sbvor?? Where are you? Hope you are OK!!

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okiegal 6 years, 11 months ago

your bar and restaurant may be busy but it's all tourists who don't know you.

I gaurantee your local business does poorly. I don't know ONE person (especially women) who would set foot in your restaurant and or bar.

But GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!

bahahahahahahahah

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 11 months ago

Actually, there were plenty of locals in there. You wouldn't know that since you don't go there, though. Saw a few people I know and it was all dinner traffic. And there were plenty of women and men enjoying a nice meal.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but since you've obviously shown you don't know what you're talking about...I'm not all THAT sorry. Don't give guarantees you can't support.

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justathought 6 years, 11 months ago

Now there is a threat, all the business you will get is tourists in a tourist destination town. Kielbasa was just there tuesday, so now you know one local that put both feet inside the JS.

Good luck with your wishful thinkin', doesn't sound like your guarantee is working. Teeheeheehee

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AmebaTost 6 years, 11 months ago

Panda is OK if you have access to a toilet shortly after eating and don't mind the stomach pains.

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housepoor 6 years, 11 months ago

and the circus goes on....................I can't belive 9 news is brodcasting live outside the Jade............. .... This is reminds me of the Simpson episode when Homer is accused of sexual harassment when he peels a piece of candy from the babysitter's butt and she mistakes it for a sexual advance.

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424now 6 years, 11 months ago

9 news?

hmmmm, now the county will have this to talk about. I wonder how long until it gets national attention?

Keep an eye folks, this is when decisions will get made and actions will be taken.

Lets see how this plays out.

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jnerney 6 years, 11 months ago

Nerney family here..... Some of my comments, which contained no foul language, no mention of names or anything other then my thoughts from reading this BS, were deleted. Not sure why, but I do wonder who moniters this site. You are right though, 2 months and it is over. Maybe my brother makes money, maybe he doesn't. Maybe his children learn from the town's and his behavior, maybe they don't. Bottom line, everyone has to live with their actions and look themselves in the mirror. My thinking is, Steamboat is lucky if they do not have many mirrors.

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airmanpat 6 years, 11 months ago

you know whats funny okie... I work at a day spa full of women who happen to be attending there end of the year party at the pirates pub! they rented the site for the whole night... and even REQUESTED kevin be the only bartender... too bad he can't help his valued customers! We all love him here!

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airmanpat 6 years, 11 months ago

just got a chance to catch up on this end... i can't believe you people have nothing better to do with your lives. I haven't been on to look in 2 days and i've missed over 70 posts... good God! Look out CNN news!!! can't wait to see this one head to the supreme court!

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Jason Miller 6 years, 11 months ago

A suggestion to all the people on all these forum.Step outside breath some fresh air.I know cabin fever sux but get out from behind your computers.I agree with airmanpat

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merkinwsp 6 years, 11 months ago

I don't know about the rest of u folks... but, I sure do miss Steamboat. These forums and issues have just been "over the top"...especialy over the last cpl. yrs. time.

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424now 6 years, 11 months ago

Yes, it's changing. The only constant is change.

This little hidden mountain town has had its name passed around the Skiing community for years. Now that they have come here and enjoyed it. They told two friends and so on. Those same skiers their friends and their families are attempting to relocate to this town. All those baby-boomers have to retire somewhere.

Now that and all it intimates is not the end of Steamboat. It is the future of Steamboat.

This will no longer be the Steamboat of yesterday. That sleepy little cow town is growing up. Growing up and spreading out.

We can't hide from this future. It's happening as we speak. Now you can complain in online forums or...

Do something about it.

Report those stoners to ACET

Report those punks to SSPD

tuff_guy, That Mexican comment was a little to final solution for me.

City hall meets regularly. Get down there. Stand, sit, pace, whatever it takes. Hangout until you get the chance to tell them what it is you want done. Remember groups are more impressive. City Hall will not react to your concerns until they feel your idea carries some political weight.

Now if you are content to complain on the internet from the comfort of your home then expect watch things happen. Without any input from you.

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STEMBOATwannabe 6 years, 10 months ago

Citizens and Friends of Steamboat -

Get involved in your local government.

Join what ever groups you would like. Church, book, biking, etc.....Meet people and let it be known that this is the time to be proactive regarding Steamboat and the future growth of our lovely area.

Attend all city meetings that you can. If City Council doens't see anyone at their meeting they will think that the citizens of our community just don't care.

Read the posts... many do care. Get involved and get off the computer one or two nights a month to oversee the future of SS.

Do something. Just don't post your complaints.

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lolamarie 6 years, 10 months ago

at least kevin's tent is in his district!!!! our city council has become a joke.

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forthepowder 6 years, 10 months ago

Can anyone recap his actual offense? or provide a link. In my opiniuon the crime would had to have been heinous to take a mans livelihood from him.

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vanessa 6 years, 10 months ago

alcohol really is the problem here. who in this valley profits the most from the distribution of it? B&k distributing. another very special interest group that makes us all so proud! what an embarrassment our town has become.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 10 months ago

So now it's B&K's fault that Kevin lost his liquor license and is giving roofies to every anonymous person who can't/won't provide proof?

This town hasn't become an embarrassment: this forum has, by allowing people to keep making unsubstantiated/unproven accusations anonymously against anyone they have a beef with.

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lolamarie 6 years, 10 months ago

lighten up sausage man! i don't think that's what's being said. some people seem to get away with everything while people like mr. nerney just seem to be hammered on. of course it's not b&k's fault. relax....it's ok to have a different opinion. it's not a threat to your soap box. the only thing embarrassing is your lack of tolerance. take some vitamin d please.

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spukomy 6 years, 10 months ago

vanessa, FYI B+K isn't the only game in town. There is also National and Summit Distributing. The differance is B+K only sells beer. The others sell beer, wine and spirits. How does this make them a special interest group anyhow? Maybe you need to live in a Dry county.

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CoJustice 6 years, 10 months ago

STEMBOATwannaab, I am a little confused by your post. Getting in the face of City Council that is enforcing laws that are already in place, set by the STATE, only makes someone look ignorant. The City Council does not set the standard:..the State does::its called public safety

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colobob 6 years, 10 months ago

Anonimity again? Geez, give it a rest already. One has to wonder what has happened to someone in life where anonimity is such an issue.

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STEMBOATwannabe 6 years, 10 months ago

Justice, I understand that some of this forum is about state laws. I am not stupid.

The people that are complaining the most need to get involved. Then they would have a better understanding of the things that they cannot change. And be able to voice their opinions where it counts on the issues that they can change.

There will be a new Steamboat. Better to be a part of it. Make it a positive experience. Be informed by attending meetings and meeting people eye to eye. ( Not just on this anonymous comment forum.) Get off your butt and make Steamboat the place you want to live or vistit!!!

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 10 months ago

Lola and Colobob- When an anonymous person can make accusations against someone without proof...yes: it is an issue, not an opinion. Saying Nerney roofie'd people without proof (or even the Fire Chief sexual harrassment part without proof during an ongoing investigation) is wrong, plain and simple.

You, colobob, called out JazzSlave when you thought it was him calling you a coward, so you did it too. We've gone thru this already. Jazz and others bring up that people like Ben Franklin had anonymous I.D.'s at times...so do most operatives of Al Qaeda. You know the ones in the videos covering their faces with bandanas? One person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist; it just depends on which side you agree or disagree with. So yeah: I have a problem with people lobbing bombs anonymously and not being held accountable. In Viet Nam, did you have names to put to the faces on who was your enemy and who wasn't? Could you tell just off the top of your head?

Did VC tend to sometimes where a friendly uniform or that of a friendly civilian just to turn against you? Now think that this isn't a life or death situation, but a person's livelihood to provide for their family. All of a sudden, you have some anonymous person throwing out things unproven that can harm his overall business. Is that what you fought for in Viet Nam: the right to accuse and demonize without proof?

Vanesssa decided that because B&K sells alcohol, that they make "us all proud." Well, B&K has put their profits behind a lot of good things in this town, and nobody forces anyone to drink alcohol in this town. There was nothing about this thread that even involved B&K, so why the need to bring them into it? It had nothing to do with them, whatsoever.

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colobob 6 years, 10 months ago

First of all Matt, I have made no comment either for or against the Nerneys nor do I intend to. As far as calling out Jazz, I just mentioned where it would be possible to find me should he wish to. Didn't ask his name, where he lived, his soc.#, or any other personal information. Jazz has my respect however for his reponse. By your logic anonimity has no place what-so-ever in our society and to that logic I disagree. By your own logic we should all sign our names to ballots at the polls. How many people do you suppose would abstain from voting if that were the case. How many meth labs would go unreported if anonymous tips weren't given. Just two instances where anonimity has a place in our world. As far as dropping bombs on people by accusing or slandering their name via false accusations, I challenge you to give me JUST ONE instance where I have done so. You can't because I never have. Never. So once again you attempt to twist and use out of context the words of others to suit your own personal needs. Reminds me othe person that nick named you "twister." You say you are an actor, maybe you should try acting like a human being for a change. I will from this point on no longer respond to your remarks. So now we will all see who has to have the last word. You have some deep seeded issues concerning anonmity that I think you need to address. Have a good life.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 10 months ago

In order to vote, do you just walk into the poll and say you want to vote?

No. You have to register first. Doesn't have to be with me, personally, but you DO give your Name, SSN, etc., so there goes that point.

Anonymous calls to the police...think they aren't tracked anyway? Remember: the "keep them on the line for 2 minutes" crap is just that: crap. Your phone can be tracked within less than a minute. No call to the police goes entirely anonymous.

As for bomb dropping, show me where I accused you in particular? It's a general statement and you insinuated yourself into the thread.

I didn't "twist" anything. Vanessa brought B&K into this...not me. There was no reason to. It had nothing to do with them.

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lolamarie 6 years, 10 months ago

kielbasa...my goodness you are so easily bated. maybe b&k should put some money into soundproofing and alcohol treatment programs.

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Matthew Stoddard 6 years, 10 months ago

Fine statement coming from someone using Pam & Terry as your possible scapegoat when you used to work with them? Guilty at the bank means it must have been them back then, too, right?

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AmebaTost 6 years, 10 months ago

Every summit needs a base camp! He just won't be able to summit anytime in the near future!

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dave reynolds 6 years, 10 months ago

one of you please explain to me how B&K is involved with this..I really want to know vanessa is an idiot to think they have anything todo with this and that they are a special intrest group..GEEES..they are a long time local business that happens to sell beer..drinking is a choice..abusive drinking is a choice..as they say dont blame the messagener(sp)..this whole thing is wacked anyway should have never come to this

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jeep 6 years, 10 months ago

maybe it's time to let this one rest. Happy Spring Skiing

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