Closing weekend crackdown

Ski area, police plan more vigilant oversight of festivities

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Closing weekend events

Today

9:30 a.m. Cardboard Classic/judging

10 a.m. 18 and younger Cardboard Classic begins on Headwall

11 a.m. Adult Cardboard Classic begins on Headwall

3 p.m. American Relay free concert in Gondola Square

Sunday

8 a.m. to 2 p.m. Splashdown Pond Skimming registration at the Gondola Square Information Center

2 p.m. The Radiators free concert in Gondola Square

2:30 p.m. Upper mountain lifts close

3 p.m. Lower mountain lifts close

3 p.m. Splashdown Pond Skimming begins on Lil' Rodeo

4 p.m. Susan Tedeschi free concert in Gondola Square

— The Steamboat Ski Area will shut down its lifts earlier than usual for Sunday's closing day festivities and will enforce a zero-tolerance policy for inappropriate behavior and illegal drinking on the mountain.

"We're taking necessary steps to ensure everyone's safety," Steamboat Ski and Resort Corp. spokeswoman Heidi Thomsen said. "We want people to have fun; we want people to enjoy and celebrate the great snow year and a great season all around."

People cited for foul language, obscene gestures, throwing snowballs or exhibiting other rude or abusive behavior will lose their skiing/riding privileges for the entire 2008-09 season.

Closing weekend's events are for everyone in the community, and things such as foul language and obscene gestures don't make it fun for anyone, Thomsen said.

"We're not trying to punish anyone - we don't look at it that way. Our No. 1 concern is safety," Thomsen said.

Local law enforcement also will be out in force this weekend for Springalicious events.

"We have people up at the base for the Cardboard Classic and pond skimming, trying to have an extra presence to keep everyone safe and happy," Steamboat Springs police Capt. Joel Rae said.

"It's busier than normal - we can anticipate that due to the festive atmosphere, the last weekend the mountain's open, there's concerts in the gondola base area, more alcohol consumption that's going on," Rae said. "So we staff up in anticipation of more problems related to that."

Ski Corp. security also will have an increased presence throughout the weekend. Security will check clothing, hydration packs and backpacks today and Sunday to look for alcohol.

"Legal drinking would be ordering a drink at one of our restaurant facilities, because it's a controlled environment," Thomsen said. "We don't allow open containers on the mountain. We don't allow people to be drinking excessively and skiing."

Comments

scooter 6 years, 7 months ago

"We don't allow people to be drinking excessively and skiing."

Yeah... right... Stoker Bar, Hazies, 3rd floor bar & outside deck bar, Ragnars, The Beach deck at Rendezvous saddle, and Bear River Bar & Grill. That's exactly what they promote, as long as your drinking in one of their establishments.

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bartender 6 years, 7 months ago

From all that I have heard from employees and execs at the ski area it wasn't just the drinking. It was the results of people being out of hand drunk. A blatant lack of respect for others by drunk "locals". I know one of the lift supers, and 3 or 4 kids skied by his wife and smacked her with ski poles. A ski school instructor was telling me he had a student fall; when he looked up the slope at her, he watched a group of 5 kids spray her, then when she tried to get up 3 or 4 of them kept pushing down with poles. Kind of an embarrassing day for Steamboat. I sure as hell wouldn't bring my family here if I had witnessed any one of the things I heard about in the past few days. The ski area isn't for the entertainment of a few @$$ wholes. Neither is my car meant to be a target for the group that was throwing snowballs from the 3rd street bus stop at 2am. I hope ski corp revokes passes. Get these spoiled brats out of town. I am all for having a good time. But respect. Respect others. I have served many drinks, and being drunk is no excuse for not showing someone else respect.

Good luck ski corp!! Clean up the mountain.

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dave reynolds 6 years, 7 months ago

scooter do you fault the haug rio or otp for selling alchol jump on the band wagon ripping on the ski area

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bolter 6 years, 7 months ago

What law is being broken if someone brings alcohol into the National Forest? What's gonna happen if Joel Rae finds a flask in the jacket of a penthouse owner at the Grand? Is this VAIL PHASE II or SWEET PEA II?

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vanguy 6 years, 7 months ago

Over the past few years, if some of us could have been a bit more descrete and maybe slightly less obnoxious, it might not have come to this.

It only takes a few bad apples, and unfortunately, closing day will never be the same as it was. Time to move on

Make Monday your day to celebrate, unless you're afraid of a little hike.

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browntrout 6 years, 7 months ago

Enough already! Isn't anyone out there tired of having the SSPD and the local government running their lives and doing their thinking. ....well you can do this, but not that, park here, don't park there, ohh my god you had 3 beers in 2 hours...do you know what a drink is? I'm not saying get wrecked drunk or irresponsible but @#$% me. WE LIVE IN SKITOWN USA...it sssssucks here anymore. No fun, gotta go.

Ciao-

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seabirth 6 years, 7 months ago

the behavior of a few was terrible, but instead of punishing the few... they punish all. i think steamboat should rethink this for next season and work to punish and kick those who misbehave off the mountain, and not punish all the users. if the abuse on gaper day was so blatent, where was patrol and security to deal with the drunken idiots? maybe they weren't prepared for it, but they cannot say that next season, so i hope they can get it together and punish those who abuse people on the hill and not those of us who just want to enjoy the last afternoon of lift serviced skiing.

i think we should shut down ski time square and all the bars in town at 10 pm because after that a few people misbehave and get into drunken fights.

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seeuski 6 years, 7 months ago

Lets hire a ski patroller for every skier so they will be able to catch the maybe 10 or 20 punk offenders. Totally unreasonable! The ski patrol is busy helping injured skiers and riders among the many other duties required to run a ski area. It would be awesome if people just had respect for one another and would behave themselves instead of acting like barn animals. So it comes down to the managemant having to tighten the reigns on the last day,BFD!!!

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seabirth 6 years, 7 months ago

who said anything about hiring more patrollers? it comes down to being prepared for what they now know is going to happen in the future. the ski area hires extra security for the concerts and special events. we know what happens on gaper day (i certainly do not condone it) so now they should be prepared. like i said earlier, it seems like the behavior was pretty obvious so it wouldn't be hard to take care of it. yes, it sucks that people behave terribly on the mountain but closing the mountain early on the last day doesn't solve the problem, only punishes the majority.

when you are prepared, you can plan and take care of the problem. work with the forest service, routt county sheriff, and steamboat pd to not let this happen next year. hopefully something positive can happen out of this, and that would be taking care of the trash.

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seeuski 6 years, 7 months ago

Unfortunitely for those of us who don't abuse the privilege we all pay the price, and the managemant was prepared, they are closing the mountain early and looking for underage skiers with booze in their pockets. They don't have to cater to this type of nonsense on the slopes for one hour on the last day of a great season.

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papafu 6 years, 7 months ago

I may have missed it, but has the ski area published the official reason for closing the lifts early or are we speculating that it is due to the rowdies.

By the way, those PBR cans I saw under some of the lifts today make me think the real culprits are the tubers and the bait fishermen.

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powderman 6 years, 7 months ago

I feel much of this is absurd. Honestly, what does closing early do to help? It's only an hour less of possible drinking on the hill. All the hoolagins would be drinking before 3 o'clock anyways. I do believe on hill drinking should be a minimal, but ski corp. seems to go to extreme lengths. "oh lets screw the locals out of just one more hour of the ski season." I guess they could argue because of the events happening on the lower mountain, but not everyone is going to want to attend those and would rather spend the last sweet hour of riding the mountain.

The next problem they have is gaper day. We put up with the real "gapers" all year, and are kind to them at our jobs. The last week of our ski season should be more dedicated to the locals not the tourists. "oh no, our poor tourists are offended by our suits and odd behavior." If they are here during the last week, they should suck it up and get over it or get out. Its not the best snow anymore, and they need to either accept it or travel here earlier. When you travel to other cities, people at jobs may be kind to you while out in the streets, you may find "locals" who may not be so kind. When you are in another city you are paying for food, hotel, transportation, etc. and may be ridiculed by some locals. its something you have to deal with and respect them, not go complaining about it and angering the locals more. Yes drinking is a problem and should be moderated, but they should not try to eliminate gaper day. They told some people on the mountain that next year anyone in a gaper suit will be ticketed and they are going to make it hawaiin day instead. Gaper day is a day to make fun of the tourists and celebrate them leaving until summer. They are good for business which is not a bad thing if you are a business owner, but april fools day is a day to just laugh at what you've had to put up with all year. So basically ski corp. caters to the tourists all season, and then when it is time for locals to take over, they punish us. We pay a high price for a season pass, and will be paying even more next season, so why can't they just try to cater to us for one week or at least accept gaper day?

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another_local 6 years, 7 months ago

Punished? Who is being punished? If you want to drink your own booze and get hammered do it at home. Gaper day was fun when it was a low key thing that you had to know was going on. You could drag some of that old stuff out of the closet, ride skinny pointed skis across your buddies boards and laugh at the inside joke, but unfortunatly a bunch of rowdy pricks had to ruin it for the rest of us.

I have been attending closing day festivities for 20 years now. What used to be fun and something to enjoy with friends or with kids became something else last year. Enough already.

I am all for the efforts to make things reasonable. By all means, check those packs and keep that mess off the hill. By the way, it may be National Forest, but it is leased to the ski corp so they do have the right to restrict activity there.

Good job ski corp.

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bubba 6 years, 7 months ago

Now how are they going to tell the real gapers from the imitation gapers in order to write the tickets?

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bloggyblog 6 years, 7 months ago

blog has heard some really disturbing stories this week about out of control drunks being abusive (both verbally and phsically) to other skiers at the ski area. blog likes to have fun, this time of year especially, but these actions where downright harmful! everyone be carefull tomorrow and don't be surprised if the gate D party is snuffed. sorry to be the bearer of ill tidings but thats the word blog has been hearing.

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betamikeiski 6 years, 7 months ago

Bring back the St. Patty's Day Chute Bump Off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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seeuski 6 years, 7 months ago

powderman, People were asaulted on gaper day. That is not acceptable here. The locals deserve the penalty if that is how you want to look at it.And don't forget that the families that visit this resort with their kids every year spending thousands of hard earned dollars don't expect to be treated like $#!+ and harrased because people like you feel they have it coming after you worked so hard for them during the season. Gaper day was supposed to be fun for all but the TRUE GAPERS ruined it for all. Enjoy the lift service until 2:30 on closing day. Have a good summer.

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jeep 6 years, 7 months ago

Gaper day is a day to make fun of the tourists and celebrate them leaving until summer.-------no

A gaper is a skiier or snowboarder who is completely clueless. Usually distiungished by their bright colored clothes and a gaper gap, the gap between goggles and a helment/hat. Gapers also do the "Gaper Tuck" which is an attempt at being a ski racer by tucking, however, it is done incorrectly with the poles sticking straight up like thunderbolts and lighting, very very frightning! Gapers also sit at the bottom of jumps and try and go big off table tops in the park.

sowboarder who has no clue as to what they're doing on the mountain. They crash all over the place and get in your way. Refered to as a gaper because of the gap between their hat and goggles, also known as a gaper-gap. See also Guppy

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OnTheBusGus 6 years, 7 months ago

Gaper: One who cannot do. An amazed onlooker. A Tourist, particularly one who stops and stares with open mouth while being completely oblivious to all ...

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jeep 6 years, 7 months ago

so why do the gapers get drunk hit people 8 get arested

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betamikeiski 6 years, 7 months ago

Pretty funny that there is actually a debate going on as to what a "gaper" actually is and what the day is all about. I agree with those that claim a "gaper" is ANY clueless individual on the hill and it is obviously and most certainly not tourists only. The concept of Gaper Day was for locals to get out and have some fun and laughs with each other.....it was never inspired by a desire to hurt, embarrass or otherwise bring any harm to other skiers on the mountain. I was kidding about the Cute Bump Off coming back but that is exactly what happened there as well. What started as a fun event for true local skiing fanatics had gotten taken over by "Gapers" posing as real skiers and as such, no more bump off. It was no longer about skiing hard and having a little fun. It became, instead, a drunken debacle with very, very little personal responsibility involved. It's sad but true and you really can't blame ski-corp for taking extra precautions to protect the majority of the skiers (PAYING customers) on their mountain. Times, they are a changing people!

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forreal 6 years, 7 months ago

i agree that people who are skiing should most definitely not be drunk. if you're doing something that requires both legs and hands, your brain should probably be in on it, too. i sure hope no punks give people a hard time today. it is a few bad apples that ruin it for everyone. kids just don't know how to act these days and the fault will always be the mother and father. i heard a kid tell his father to shut the heck up one time. and the father said, lowly, o.k. my father would've put me through a wall. i saw someone mention "hard earned money". the locals that live and work here definitely make "hard earned money". the others who pull their kids out of school and from their social circle to come here and live for a few months in their multi-million dollar home just so they can ski; "hard earned dollars?" i think, financially at least, they are doing just fine. the whole "gaper" thing is funny, though. i guess there's "being oh so cool" and then there's "being a gaper". it's funny, though, hearing adults say things like that.

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spukomy 6 years, 7 months ago

If you think losing your ski pass for next season is too harsh, don't move to Breckenridge. Or maybe just act like an adult. http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20080330/NEWS/904080174

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LookoutJoe 6 years, 7 months ago

cmc punks. its really a shame how many low-lifes that school attracts. I would venture to guess that a good 80% of those kids are just the kind of punks who this kind of stuff. I'm wondering if anyone has any specifics for what happened on gaper day, I never heard anything.

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forreal 6 years, 7 months ago

what the hell is gaper day? are there any adults that are commenting on this topic?

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seeuski 6 years, 7 months ago

forreal, Can you read? If not then why are you posting an opinion here? If you don't know what gaper day is and don't know what went down last Tuesday then take a hike. See you on the next thread different topic.

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scooter 6 years, 7 months ago

Hey... I didn't know a Gondola window could sail that far. Did anyone else see that!

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forreal 6 years, 7 months ago

seeuski, you must be one of the cool guys. maybe you should do yourself and every real person a favor and go ski off a cliff. nobody needs someone like you in the world. i can read just fine and i'm just a kid. i'll tell you something else, too. it's people like you that make this world a difficult place to live in. i was hoping to converse with someone at least over the age of 12. you must be an adult from the northeast or something.

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seeuski 6 years, 7 months ago

forreal, Sorry, I didn't know you were just a kid posting here. Hope you are in a better mood tomorrow.

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h2o 6 years, 7 months ago

I was completely offended by this article. The full page ad in the pilot was a little over the top. I don't think that drunk idiots on the mountain should be tolerated, but I also don't think punishing the entire population is exactly fair! The fact is everyone is so damn sensitive anymore. The "law" has to control everyone for their own good and we should just all accept it. What a crock! The majority of us are responsible and don't need to be treated like the ones who are not, yet that is exactly what this article did with it's language and it is apparent in most every place these days. Taking a hard line with everyone included is not going to generate a positive response in most people. It just seems to me that everyone is treated as guilty until proven innocent when they post an article and ad like the one we are discussing here. It's really quite disgusting to me!

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betamikeiski 6 years, 7 months ago

Sitting in my office, watching the snow coming down outside padding what is already a deep base on a CLOSED mountain, almost brings a tear to my eye. Sure, I could break out the backcountry gear and start hiking, but that is really not the point. THIS FREAKIN MOUNTAIN SHOULD STILL BE OPEN!!!!!!!! Sorry, but it really does bum me out that we have epic skiing right now (the snow this past week was fabulous) and the lifts are silent and barren. Oh, that's right, they closed early to begin construction. Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!? They won't be able to commence work on the base area for AT LEAST 2 weeks. No respect nor regard for the locals and particularly the season pass holders who shelled out $1000 for an abbreviated ski season. Kinda brings one thought to mind..... BRING BACK THE JAPANESE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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digit1964 6 years, 7 months ago

Betamike - these guys make money! its a business and we live in the USA. the amount of snow has nothing to do with the mountain staying open. these guys are the first owners of Ski Corp that are not on the verge of bankruptcy.

I guess they are trying not the follow the lead of the previous failing owners.

PS - I wish it was still open too.

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love_boat 6 years, 7 months ago

All this resentment of the tourists makes me wonder if those of you with this attitude have ever gone on vacation yourselves? I suspect your attitude is as bad when you are the gaper at your chosen destination, but your hosts just don't make fun of you. If you have no class on your current home turf there is no reason to expect you will exhibit any when you are somewhere else. Maybe you are grouchy because you don't take a vacation and need one to improve your outlook. Just be careful that you don't do anything to offend at your vacation destination because someone who lives there might be as sick of tourists there as you are here.

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blackthroatedwind 6 years, 7 months ago

Most of the idiots out 'celebrating' gaper day have lived here about a year or 2 and are still on daddie's dole. That makes them simply gapers who stopped to stay for a year or two. At least the real gapers paid their own way here...

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oldskoolstmbt 6 years, 7 months ago

forreal- click on the link onthebusgus posted...it is a good article and may describe it to you better:)

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booyakashaa_frahee 6 years, 7 months ago

hah i love all these posts they are so entertaining to read. This one will be even more entertaining considering I am a horrible speller. Anyways to jump on the bus with everyone else, this season was amazing, tons of snow the crowds were not bad, got a new lift (stops alot but who cares) "gapers" gave us good laughs and were always there to take some group pictures of me and my friends. Who cares whats the frigan def. of a gaper get another job. What grinds my gears is the fact that people like "seeuski" up there talk on this blog like they know it all, ohh the tourists work hard for there money to take there kids skiing in steamboat to spend there hard earned money here in steamboat blah blah blah blah, let me tell you suttin MR. STEAMBOAT or see_uski (whatever your screen name is) I work hard too, Ive worked my tail end off for 4 years earning a degree so I could find a job that would last throughout the season. My parents never took me out to colorado when I was a kid I skied at Ward Hill in MA everyday after school and Loved every sec of it. and guess what they opened everyday and closed everyday at the same time. I work hard in this town to make money we all do, so stop yelping about how we owe these tourists, and how we are suppose to dance in circles around them like there the frigan beating heart of steamboat and we should treat them like there golden calves, they deserve as much repect as me and you and thats it. We all had a great season and we all want to end it in a postitive manner, i understand the crack down on booze and that is cool, my friend got pulled over on the moutain and admitted to the ski patrol he was drunk and I was there helping him to the gondala to download. The patrol was such a good person he asked me if i needed help and there would be no punishement if we left him with the patrols, or he told us to very carefull and bring him down ourselves. so ya that was it no big deal my buddy had his fun he learned not too get that drunk again and that was that. They make these rules for people like that. I am sure it will pan out dif. next season. so with that said who wants to shred some creekside in a few months. also has anyone heard the rumor that the trail designer from Whistler was surveying our land for new bike trails perhaps?

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424now 6 years, 7 months ago

R.e.s.p.e.c.t. owww a little respect Justa little bit, Justa little bit

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powderman 6 years, 7 months ago

ha ha yeah christie express was hardly ever express. you could probably hike up faster than taking the lift. but whatever gapers are goofy, and can be quite annoying. and sadly these were the better tourists. cant wait for all the triple clowns to show up. i hear theres gonna be 40 more teams than the 398 last year!! who is stoked!!!! lets get ready to shoot more water balloons at them.

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forreal 6 years, 7 months ago

o.k. maybe i didn't know what i was talking about and yes i was in a very poor mood. sorry if i offended anyone. i guess i got a lot to learn about things up here in the north. my next comments will be a lttle more thoughtful.

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forreal 6 years, 7 months ago

i did just hear about things and i feel like a fool. i hope you will forgive me. i was on your side the whole time and didn't even realize it. i'm sorry seeuski. maybe i should work more on an educated opinion.

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seeuski 6 years, 7 months ago

booyablah-blahkasheeeoyeeweewee, Great first post, Guess something I said offended you directly, gee wonder what it was? Your degree ain't nuttin MR. OWNDABOAT SKIIN WIT DA DRUNKEST A BOUYS and me ain't no rich tourist cause I worked my tail off to git this here skiin degree that I used for helpin my bouy off da hill cause da patrol is cool and nice for lettin us local degreed gapers off free.Yee hee.

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OnTheBusGus 6 years, 7 months ago

After observing tourists for the 12+ years I have been here I have come to conclude that some people are tourists and some are not. I have met some great visitors here who had a clue, actually could ski and were aware of their surroundings. I have been on vacation and found that I couldn't pull off being a stupid tourist. Although, in Hawaii I did try asking which bus went to the mainland just to see what would happen. Basically, some people are clueless idiots and some are people just like us who are visiting another place.

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forreal 6 years, 7 months ago

please remember that people who simply don't know but want to, are not idiots. come on. you wouldn't want someone calling you an idiot because you don't know how to peel crawfish fast enough. and southern people wouldn't make you feel that way anyway. i agree with love boat. if people would simply treat each other the way they would expect to be treated, there wouldn't be so much hub bub. just because someone doesn't know how to ski, and we do; maybe we could show them how and gain a friend in the process because i'll bet they could show you something you don't know how to do.

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powderman 6 years, 7 months ago

i agree with gus. You can visit another place, and not stick out like a sore thumb.If I travel to another mountain, or anywhere for that matter, i try to fit in, and know whats up. especially at other mountains.wear the same clothes i do here, and of course tuck away the purchased day lift ticket. its just the majority that are dumb that are annoying

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betamikeiski 6 years, 7 months ago

Seriously....this is SKI TOWN USA! It is, and always will be, a MAJOR LEAGUE tourist destination spot. If so very unhappy with the tourists, I would suggest a move to Walden.

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