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oneski (anonymous) says...

RIGHT ON Bob!!!! Vote no on the rec center.

September 23, 2007 at 7:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

homey (anonymous) says...

Yes indeed, not to mention that we have millions of public lands to recreate on many of them right out the front door. If you can't find a place to recreate in Steamboat I would contend that you are really not looking, and are more readily looking for an excuse.

September 23, 2007 at 8:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Bog (anonymous) says...

I don't really care one way or another about the rec center, but I am sick of the "superiority complex" of people who are born here feeling they are something special.

I have lived here 15 years after moving from Denver, at what point do I become a local? If your biggest accomplishment in life is being born here, perhaps you need to begin achieving on your own rather than gloating about your parents living here when you were born.

The Hermacinski for City Council ad (I don't know her) shows a picture of her great grandmother in Routt County 1924, and her slogan is about being a native. This is why I should vote for her? Perhaps natives should wear t-shirts in addition to the bumper stickers so that we can bow to them on the streets.

I moved to Colorado when I was six, have now lived here 36 years, but I guess that doesn't count since I was born in North Dakota. Let's stick to the issues and people's experience, not just their birthplace.

September 23, 2007 at 9:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

steamboatskier (anonymous) says...

bog raises a great point. I was born and raised here, but that should have no reflection on whether the recreation center should be built or not.

Utimately, it should be up to the tax payers, but the amount of money spent should also be up to the tax payers, as well.

September 23, 2007 at 11:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

another_local (anonymous) says...

By the way I met Cari Hermacinski for the first time at the candidate event in the park Friday. I was impressed. Also, if you have seen her other ads, I think you might change your views. The others I have seen do not harp on the "native" card.

September 23, 2007 at 6:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

steamvent (anonymous) says...

Cari Hermacinski's ad doesn't claim status as a native as much as declaring that she returned here to raise her family and wants to ensure we don't all screw up why we all came here ... whenever it was.

September 24, 2007 at 1:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

kielbasa (Matthew Stoddard) says...

As a non-native living here 29 years, what percentage of my vote counts compared to a 20yr old that was born here? I've been here 9yrs longer and I'm 20yrs older.

Then, let's go onto this one:

What if that same 20yr old was born here, but his/her parents only moved here 1 year before the birth?

What about the parents who were born here, moved away and had kids, then moved back after 10yrs?

Or, what about the 20yr old who was born here, but then his/her parents move away after the child is 18yrs old and the child still lives here?

How much weight do those scenarios carry in voting terms, Bob? (BTW- with all that extra stuff, did your children develop ulcers?)

September 24, 2007 at 4:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

corduroy (anonymous) says...

I find it really funny how we all argue about who is more of a local or whatever
To me, if you live here year round, you're a local. Those who come and go with the seasons, aren't.. Doesn't that make sense?

September 25, 2007 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

id04sp (anonymous) says...

If we don't have what you want, Delta is ready when you are. Don't expect the rest of us to fund something that only a few percent of the county population will actually use.

September 25, 2007 at 11:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

twostroketerror (anonymous) says...

How to spot a local? Simply look for the oversize SUV with the solo driver on a cell phone, sporting a 'local' sticker on the back, an amazing refusal to use their turn signal (I live here, you know where I'm going!) and driving 30-35 through downtown. Easy enough.

September 26, 2007 at 2:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

BoulderGrad (anonymous) says...

These are the same people who wrote to the paper September 10 of last year that they like to swim in the OTHS pool, and don't mind the dead rodents floating in the bottom. Sorry, but that grosses me out.

For the record, the June 2007 survey showed, "Generic support for a recreation center remains consistently high (60%) -- same as last year."

The August 20-22, 2006, Poll Findings of 300 voters in the City of Steamboat Springs found the following:
"In general, do you support or oppose the idea of having the city of Steamboat Springs build a recreation center?" 65% said Support; 26% Oppose; 10% Don't Know.

There are your figures, Mr. De Vries. Are you computer savvy enough to read this? I hope so. If not, call the City and ask for the figures yourself.

Times change and communities do too. Steamboat is growing. It isn't like it was 20, 30, 50 years ago when you were raising your children. It is a truly wonderful place, and it is only getting better.

The current facility has already outgrown our community. Imagine what it will be like in three years? Five years? Ten years?

If we don't pay now, it will get more and more expensive. And it will happen. I'm voting yes on 2B & 2C.

September 26, 2007 at 10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

BoulderGrad (anonymous) says...

Here's another thing (if anyone is reading this blog anymore) it's amazing the idiocy of asking that only those "born and raised here" can be surveyed to see if we need a rec center. Your narrow-mindedness and exclusionary attitude is unbelievable. What you're saying is that anyone NOT "born and raised here" has no rights to any opinion on how anything is done. Only those "born and raised here" can make a decision for all of us. Oh, that's fair (sic). Rec center or not, that's just plain scary. No wonder your kids moved away from you and stayed away.

As for my kids, dang right they'd probably say they'll come back and live in Steamboat and help pay for it. You bet. Let's get through elementary school first.

September 26, 2007 at 11:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

addlip2U (anonymous) says...

Oh my :-(
""For the record, the June 2007 survey showed, "Generic support for a recreation center remains consistently high (60%) -- same as last year."
The August 20-22, 2006, Poll Findings of 300 voters in the City of Steamboat Springs found the following:
"In general, do you support or oppose the idea of having the city of Steamboat Springs build a recreation center?" 65% said Support; 26% Oppose; 10% Don't Know."""

WOW, a survey !!!! of 300 votes....that really makes a credible representation of the nearly 10,000 population. NOT.

BoulderGrad are you familiar with statistical analysis to get a proper (survey) number and demographical representation to make the survey and its resulst credible?

Who ever authorized the funds to proceed to develop plans on a survey of only 300 participants was irresponsible to us tax payers. That survey carry no merit.

And neither does the rec center to be built with tax payers money.

September 30, 2007 at 9:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dreamriver23 (jeannie berger) says...

I will repeat myself by saying that I was one of the "300" surveyed in June of 2007. Not one of the questions on the phone survey asked the "generic" question of whether or not I supported the building of a new rec center. How can this be an honest survey regarding the support of a new rec center when that wasn't one of the questions? Please explain this to me Bouldergrad.

September 30, 2007 at 10:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

retiredinss (anonymous) says...

In reading these comments it appears that very few have actually seen the June 2007 survey results. If they had they would know that the question of the lowest cost option, about $15 million, barely made a majority approval. Once the price climbed to the $34 million with all the options, the against had reached between 65 and 70%. This was a survey of likely SS voters, so should come pretty close to showing what folks who go to the polls believe.

October 1, 2007 at 5:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dreamriver23 (jeannie berger) says...

Where can one go to see the survey results?

October 1, 2007 at 6:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

retiredinss (anonymous) says...

To dreamriver23-

I suggest that you address that question to City Council, the City Manager and/or the Parks and Recreation Department. These were the folks involved in commissioning the survey.

October 3, 2007 at 6:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dreamriver23 (jeannie berger) says...

Thanks retiredinss.

October 3, 2007 at 9:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )