Steamboat 700 submits latest plan

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Steamboat 700 plans

The developers of Steamboat 700 say they intend to build a "community within a community" west of the existing city limits.

- It could create as many as 2,243 residential units and 331,000 square feet of commercial space on 700 acres

- The new proposal would include 221 acres of open space, trails and parks

- Phasing would take place from east to west with sequencing of roads and utilities

- Each phase would provide a mix of housing types

- Steamboat 700 already is consulting with the public schools, city, the fire protection district and utility companies

- Steamboat 700 says its sustainability program uses the "intent portion" of the green building program known as LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design)

— The agricultural fields just west of Steamboat Springs' city limits could someday become a "community within a community" complete with a village center of three- to four-story mixed-use buildings.

The developers of Steamboat 700 this week submitted to the city planning department their most detailed vision to date for the 700 acres they purchased for $26.4 million in March.

The plan foresees between 1,837 and 2,243 residential units with as many as 448 of them being deed-restricted community housing units. It also envisions a new village center to be built just north of U.S. Highway 40 across from the entrance to Sleepy Bear Mobile Home Park. It could include a standalone commercial building such as a grocery store and possibly a small hotel, Steamboat 700 principal and project manager Danny Mulcahy said.

However, the developers are urging community members not to regard the 80-page book they submitted to the city as a finished product.

"I'm very happy with the document we've produced," Mulcahy said Tuesday. "It's a good place to start the conversation. This is the document that starts the public process. This is not the annexation (petition)."

Assistant City Planning Director John Eastman agreed.

"We hope to meet with the developers next week and begin talking about how to take this to the public," Eastman said. He added that the "initial submittal" turned in by Steamboat 700 LLC is neither a submission to enter the city's pre-application process nor is it a request for a major development permit.

The new Steamboat 700 document anticipates that residential construction would not begin before the fourth quarter of 2009. The developers hope to have the property annexed into the city by the third quarter of 2008, according to their own proposed project schedule.

Mulcahy said the goals of Steamboat 700 include "breaking the trend of most new developments in resort towns by designing toward the full-time resident as opposed to the second-home owner."

The tentative proposal calls for a mix of condominiums, duplexes, townhomes and single-family homes on both small and large lots. The neighborhoods would be built along the lines of the "new urbanism" movement with grid-pattern streets, alley access and homes with porches close to the street. There is a stated intent in the proposal to use established green building practices.

The proposal submitted this week includes establishing a series of five metro districts - not to govern the new community but to permit low-interest bonding to build public infrastructure including arterial roads that would later be turned over to the city.

The developers also will ask the city to consider creating a new development guide for Steamboat 700 instead of using the city's existing community development code.

"The existing (community development code) is designed for (a) certain type of development and geographical areas (Old Town Steamboat) that have existing and unique requirements, which are not necessarily conducive to traditional neighborhood design," the developers wrote. "Because of this, inherent conflicts with the Steamboat 700 plan and the existing CDC are inevitable. (That would) result in the approval process being much longer and more difficult for both the applicant and the city."

The developers say that following the initial submittal, they anticipate entering the pre-application review stage of the city process. At that point, they say, they intend to submit an annexation petition, annexation map and a proposed pre-annexation agreement.

- To reach Tom Ross, call 871-4205

or e-mail tross@steamboatpilot.com

Comments

elk2 7 years, 1 month ago

He uses all the correct verbage. He's very slick. I hope the entire county gets involved with this plan as it will affect all of us in one way or another. Will the "document" be available for public viewing? I'm sure it's colorful and pretty.

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Brent Boyer 7 years, 1 month ago

elk2 and others: The "initial submittal" filed with the city's planning department can be downloaded from the link at the upper left-hand side of this page. It's in .pdf format.

Brent Boyer Editor, Steamboat Pilot & Today

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mtncareer 7 years, 1 month ago

Great document! However, I'm a little stunned by the "average home price of $635,000" as per page 36. I guess I thought it was going to be, on average, a bit more affordable than that.

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toboyle105 7 years, 1 month ago

It would be nice if they would convert the buses to run on natural gas.

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Brian Smith 7 years, 1 month ago

Found an interesting article the other day about public transportation. Telluride for instance uses a Gondola for public transportation. Maybe we put one in here, start it out around Silver Spur, and have it come thru town, all the way to the mountain, with maybe 3 - 4 stops. Interesting concept to me, seems to work for them. Can't remember where I read the article, but here is a link to the telluride site that speaks of it. http://tellurideskiresort.com/Tellski/info/getting-around.aspx

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ColoradoNative 7 years, 1 month ago

There is no way in hell we can build 2,000 homes on the west side of town when there simply isn't enough room on our roads now to get all the locals thru downtown to the east side of town as it is.

Steamboat 700 needs to be shelved until a by pass plan is in place.

If our new city council really intends to make some changes they will learn from the previous group that they simply can't approve all the plans that come their way without considering the impact on the local community/downtown. This summer was nothing short of a nightmare downtown.

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toboyle105 7 years, 1 month ago

Come on mTnsmith become a playa. Get one of those 1% no money downs that the Saudis and Chinese are backing, flip a few times then you 2 can buy a Maribou and kick it up to the good life. You know one of those big places to gather family and friends, bring in a couple of cases, just like Steamboat Mag leads you to believe. Don't worry about the buyers, it will go into foreclosure and you can pick it up on cents on the dollar and do it all over again. Just like the S & L's of the 80's.

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jeep 7 years, 1 month ago

the new steamboat 3, bigger better this and that. more money for you danny dui

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inmate2007 7 years, 1 month ago

"Little boxes, little boxes on the hill side...."

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Scott Wedel 7 years, 1 month ago

I'd rather see little boxes than more subdivisions typical of suburban sprawl that have been done so far.

Almost 20 years ago I was in a small town in Germany that was adding a street. I was surprised that they were adding another row of closely built small houses since here we'd add a nice spread out subdivision. But there they want to preserve their farmland, they want the new owners to be able to walk to the city square and in 20 years when they add another street they want those new owners to also be able to want to the city square. Their city planning is based upon the idea that they have been there for 1,000 years and they want it to be nice for at least another 500 years.

Here our idea of planning for the distant future is to consider a 2030 plan that looks 20 years into the future. We say we don't want to be completely dependent upon cars for personal transportation and then we proceed to grow in a way that is completely upon automobiles for transportation. We say we don't want to be more like Aspen or Vail and then fail to follow in their footsteps of what they are doing to deal with their mistakes.

Is the commercial built at the entrance so everyone passes by it as they drive in and out, or is it located in the middle of the area of densest housing?

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toboyle105 7 years, 1 month ago

There's a green one, a pink one, a blue one and a brown one and they're all made of ticky, tacky and they all look the same. Its the new urban west. More people, more traffic, more pollution, more junk from China

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Brian Smith 7 years, 1 month ago

It looks like they are putting in another "Downtown", will the Steamboat population be able to support both? It looks like a lot of homes to me, I don't see how we have that many people that are all of a sudden going to be homeowners. I am no expert, just what it looks like to me.

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nofear 7 years, 1 month ago

Where have all you people been? The West Steamboat Springs Area plan has been developed with open houses, public input, review, discussion, more public input all over the last DECADE! That entire time, there has been a combined city/county committee, the Area Plan Coordinating Committee, in place specifically for the implementation of the plan. Both planning commissions, the Board of County Commissioners and the City Councils have worked on this plan development.

The housing demand has also been discussed, identified and addressed in at least five meetings as recently as the past two years at City Council. The specific types of housing needed, the expectation of demographic changes, how much will be needed at what time. All discussed and available for public input and review.

The bypass has also been discussed and studied. Read those studies! A bypass is built to bypass a town. The majority of traffic we experience is local people driving into town, we don't want to bypass it. We drop kids at school, at Winter Sports Club, go to Safeway, City Market. The cost of a bypass would be hundreds of millions of dollars and CDOT has said they will not participate financially.

Do you pay attention? Do you think that just blogging about a subject means you're involved? Get up from the keyboard and get to some meetings. Give some real input.

Apathy is what creates our growth, sustainability, transportation and community issues. We have got to start becoming active members of our community not just observers who complain.

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inmate2007 7 years, 1 month ago

A better bus fuel would be vegetable oil, a renewal resource. With the restaurants in town supply should not be a problem and the new Agrestic will only help matters.

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canudigit 7 years, 1 month ago

I am counting on the Steamboat 700 to create a glut of homes so prices quit rising so fast. Then maybe I can afford to buy a home around here. Too bad that I won't be able to get to downtown in a reasonable period of time!! They need to make hwy 40- 2 lanes each direction that is a better use of our $$$ than a bypass.

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toboyle105 7 years, 1 month ago

At least I wouldn't have to constantly clean the soot off anything left outside and my lungs wouldn't be filled with the stuff. As a side it would make you want to go out and buy a burger and fries thereby supporting your favorite restaurant.

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weststmbtres 7 years, 1 month ago

mtncareer, just do the math. In just buying the land they've already invested around 70K in each housing unit they sell. By the time they put in roads, utilities and infrastructure to support the community, they are going to have around 200K invested in each unit. Now add on the affordable housing units they have to sell under market value and all of a sudden a vacant lot is over 300K. If people are going to spend 300K on a lot then they certainly are going to spend at least another 300K on the structure they put on that lot.

Theres no reason to believe lots in S700 are going to sell for less than the 300K that seems to be the going price now for a piece of dirt in Steamboat Springs.

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weststmbtres 7 years, 1 month ago

inmate, how is vegetable oil a renewable resource. Do you realize how much crude oil it takes to make vegetable oil? Do you see what rising corn prices are doing to the cost of foods in the grocery store? Until the buses are converted to electric or fuel cells and the electricity and hydrogen are manufactured with real renewable resources then its just afor people who want you to believe they are trying to do the right thing.

I will give them veg oil proponents one prop. As long as the vegetable oil comes from kitchen deep fryers and woud be put in the landfill otherwise, they are making a second recycled use for it.

Just producing the oil to put directly in our gas tanks is a waste. The energy that goes into it barely covers the energy we get out.

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inmate2007 7 years, 1 month ago

Sorry to tell you but by definition vegetable oil is renewable, it may not make economic sense but you can grow the plants again and again. The use of corn for biofuels is foolish when there are much more productive plants (rape, safflower, hemp).

I still say that the restaurant's in town could supply all the fuel necessary for the transit system. If you think about it that's a lot of fry oil .....

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Vince arroyo 7 years ago

MtnSmith a gondola sounds great. BUT whom will let the support towers in their backs yards? ? even if gas is at $4.00 a gal people I believe will still drive . Making HWY 40 four lanes out to Steamboat II will just bottleneck the problem there.

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mtnkids 7 years ago

Ok, how about no one gets to build anything new without solar. No more cathedral ceilings that waste heat. Why not put some limitations to what is allowed to be built? It should be forward thinking going on. We should not be allowing anything but green structures.

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