Steamboat Springs resident Cari Hermancinski, top left, is shown here at her home with her husband, Mark, and daughters Eva, top center, and Josie on Wednesday. Hermacinski defeated incumbent Towny Anderson to earn a City Council seat.

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Steamboat Springs resident Cari Hermancinski, top left, is shown here at her home with her husband, Mark, and daughters Eva, top center, and Josie on Wednesday. Hermacinski defeated incumbent Towny Anderson to earn a City Council seat.

Rec center may have led to council losses


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Local resident Cari Hermancinski, top left, is shown here at her home in Steamboat Springs with her husband, Mark, and daughters Eva, left, and Josie on Wednesday. Hermacinski defeated incumbent Towny Anderson to earn a seat on the new city council.

— Wednesday was a day for second-guessing as Steamboat Springs City Council incumbents pondered their resounding Election Day defeats.

Councilman Towny Anderson wondered whether the council's decision to place a $34 million recreation center on the ballot cost him and two others re-election. Voters left little doubt about their feelings toward the proposal - the referendums were defeated, 80 percent to 20 percent.

The City Council voted unanimously in September to put the recreation center on the ballot. Anderson said council members were so pressured by a group of recreation center supporters that they decided to let voters make the call. The two recreation center ballot questions, which proposed funding for construction, operation and maintenance of a facility at Ski Town Fields, would have implemented the city's only property tax.

"In retrospect, council should have never let that come to a vote," Anderson said. "I never factored that into the equation, but what that did is bring the conservative vote out en masse. And that really hurt us."

In an election that will bring five new members to the seven-member council, Anderson's loss was the worst. Challenger Cari Hermacinski netted 2,068 votes to Anderson's 1,166 - or 61 percent to 34 percent - in the at-large race. Dave McClure, who withdrew from the election last month but already was on the finalized ballot, received the remaining 5 percent of the vote.

Scott Myller defeated City Council President Susan Dellinger, 57 percent to 43 percent. Jon Quinn defeated Councilwoman Karen Post, 56 percent to 44 percent.

Despite the challengers' large margins of victory, all three incumbents won in Precincts 12 and 13, which include Steamboat's Brooklyn, Fairview and Old Town neighborhoods. The challengers won Precincts 14 through 18, which extend south from Old Town to the mountain area. Results were mixed in Precinct 11, Steamboat's westernmost precinct, where Post beat Quinn by two votes, Myller beat Dellinger by two votes and Hermacinski beat Anderson by 18 votes.

While the divisions in every precinct but the 11th were clear, explanations for the split are not.

"I couldn't tell you," Anderson said. "It seems to be a paradox, given the historic preservation moratorium was my cross to bear."

In September, the City Council enacted a moratorium banning the demolition of structures deemed historic, while the city's current historic preservation ordinance - one of mandatory review but voluntary compliance - is reevaluated. The moratorium followed a broader-reaching emergency moratorium that halted even minor renovations to older homes throughout the city for weeks.

Anderson advocated both moratoriums, which drew passionate opposition from Steamboat's older neighborhoods. Anderson later admitted the emergency moratorium was a mistake. As with the recreation center, City Council was accused of succumbing to a small group of persistent special interests in enacting the moratorium.

Early votes unclear

Hermacinski questions whether she and the other challengers actually lost in Precincts 13 and 14, noting the more than 2,300 votes that were made early or by mail-in ballot. Those votes have not been broken down into their precincts of origin.

"I bet you we won," Hermacinski said Wednesday.

Routt County Clerk & Recorder Kay Weinland said early and mail-in ballots are considered their own precincts. She said her office would not organize those votes by precinct.

City Manager Alan Lanning said he was surprised by an election that could create "potentially a dramatic shift in philosophy."

"I'm always surprised when all of the seats change," Lanning said. "Obviously you have to re-educate yourself and relearn the personalities and the direction they want to go."

While Anderson admitted mistakes with the recreation center and historic preservation moratorium, he said most of the decisions, such as the passage of affordable housing legislation earlier this year, were the right ones.

"We've been talking about affordable housing for 25 years, and this is the first council that did it," he said. "I'm not sure you can address the issues we addressed without it appearing to be chaotic and tumultuous."

Dellinger said the outgoing City Council members made the decisions they felt were right and paid no concern to how they might affect re-election campaigns.


JustAsking 9 years, 6 months ago

Don't you get it Towny? It's really very simple. More people thought you were doing the wrong things than doing the right things.

Did it occur to you that your affordable housing ordinance is what brought you down? Given the choice, people vote for capitalism over socialism every time. Clearly the majority feels that the ordinance you are so proud of passing is of no benefit to them.

Clearly the majority has rejected a council who refused to recognize they were obsessed with taking from the many to entitle a few.

Here is another factor for you to ponder Towny: the majority threw out your council for repeatedly hiring expensive consultants to determine the obvious. When people see government recklessly spending and asking for more taxes in the same breath they get mad. (Example: Hiring consultants for airport studies while ignoring the findings of the local members of the airport board. Surprise! Same conclusions but at far greater expense.)

You can try to rationalize that you were just trying to do the "right" thing without regard to retaining your position but it should be very clear to you now that the people you were supposed to represent--the majority--grew tired of you and your dictatorial direction.

Here are some points for you to ponder.

Steamboat will grow despite any barricades government throw up. More "Boomers" are going to move here and that will mean more employees are needed in service businesses.

Limiting supply increases demand . More demand results in higher prices.

Competition benefits the consumer. A lack of competition for goods and services means higher prices.

Charity is best managed by the private sector. Government administration is always more expensive and rarely gets it right.

The Public will only embrace a socialist policy if they think the benefit to them PERSONALLY is less than their personal cost. If they think it's free or someone else is paying for it they say "I'll take it." The public at large will repeatedly reject government policies that result in the majority paying for the benefit of a few.

The clear majority thought that your council and most obviously you personally needed to go.


steamvent 9 years, 6 months ago

JustAsking: Well said. Towny's problem now in trying to understand his overwhelming defeat is the same problem he had while in office ... how could anyone disagree with his self righteous views? Arrogance is distasteful, and it is clear that people got real tired of having social engineering shoved down their throats. It will be refreshing to have a council of individuals who have come together to act in behalf of everyone in this town rather than an obvious coalition pushing a liberal agenda.


another_local 9 years, 6 months ago

Just a note on accuracy folks: Towny was ONLY vote against the community center plan that is now being built. I do not agree with most of the positions he took, but on this one he had it right.


id04sp 9 years, 6 months ago

Geez, know-it-all,

Just move down the street a bit. What's the big deal? The people who originally settled Steamboat came much further than a couple of city blocks to find a place to establish a town. Move on down toward Milner and build something modest and old-westy and enjoy that.


yampagov 9 years, 6 months ago

Even though Towny has his faults, let us also not forget Ken Brenner. Ken may have been one of the largest contributors to the incumbents losses. He is probably the one most to blame for his arrogant attitude and self-serving agendas. And rumors continue to surface that he may run for a State legislature position (God forbid).


thefarmer 9 years, 6 months ago

Call it what you may, Mr. Anderson. Socialism defeated you and the others.


rodcarew 9 years, 6 months ago

Above posters: if you don't like their efforts to create affordable housing, what is your solution????

All I see is people bitching about the previous Council's efforts to actually do something about the biggest issue facing our community (as opposed to previous Council's who just talked about it), but with no viable solution of their own to offer.

Let's hear some of your ideas and have a debate about them.


dave mcirvin 9 years, 6 months ago

let's be careful what we wish for. Let's hope the new gang doesn't open the flood gates for unbridled building without some checks and balances...lest we continue as lil' Vail.


id04sp 9 years, 6 months ago


There is affordable housing all around. It's the jobs to support it that are lacking.

Find a job in a town where you can afford to live on the money you make. That's what a resonable person would do.

There are some beautiful old homes and former mansions of 20th century captains of industry in Newport, Rhode Island. They cost millions. I wish I could have lived there, but I did not. Instead, I bought a house I could afford on what I made. It's only a matter of making the leap from what "I want" to what "I can afford." What "I deserve" never comes into the discussion at all. If you deserve more, then earn more, and buy what you think you deserve.

Affordable housing? Problem SOLVED!


Russell Orms 9 years, 6 months ago

Let us hope that all the newly elected council members will recognize that the 80% who voted for them, also voted AGAINST the rec center. Please don't come back to us with some other financing option or reduced plan for a facility we don't need or want.


thompson1 9 years, 6 months ago

Heres an idea, how about doing what governments do everywhere else they need land, enact your powers of eminent domain(or just buy it) and take some of the open land south of town that sits empty and build ONE decent sized apartment complex. Thats all steamboat needs, 1 more apartment complex would satisfy the demand. As for needing affordable homes, sorry, thats called open your eyes, youre trying to buy a house in the mountains genius, you dont look for affordable houses here. The only people that need affordable housing are those of the workforce that come from around the WORLD to keep this little town running in the winter(and anyone who doesnt believe that we need those workers is in denial).


Matthew Stoddard 9 years, 6 months ago

Thompson1- In case you haven't heard, there's a bill stalled in Congress on upping the H2B foreign workers cap. That cap has already been met. Guess what may not be coming to Steamboat? H2B workers.

Then, Super WalMart in Craig opened. Ask companies if they lost some of their local workforce to it, since it makes commuting 90miles a day unnecessary. Guess where the workforce that keeps this little town running comes from, for the most part, in the winter? Craig and H2B workers.

Then, these companies pay them more, pass on those costs to consumers, blah, blah, blah, inflated costs, blah, blah, blah, etc. Those in denial are the ones thinking this isn't a problem.


elphaba 9 years, 6 months ago

Towny and his compatriots lost because they continued to make mistake after mistake -- the rec center on the ballot, which shouldn't have happened - historic preservation - the waffling on the community center - the expensive studies - secret meetings - The Iron Horse mistake - the vacation rental debacle - and the affordable housing linkage, which was perhaps the biggest mistake of all - Council failed to accomplish or lead at all. The new Council now must try to undo all the mistakes.

I agree that Ken Brenner was perhaps the real reason for the total blow out- his leadership was disingenuous and dishonest. It will dog him through any further political attempts.


yampagov 9 years, 6 months ago

I agree with you elphaba. Everybody is pointing their finger at Towny. However, let us not forget Ken Brenner and his "disingeuous and dishonest" leadership. The new Council should spend some serious time redesigning some of Ken's pet projects.


Hammurabi 9 years, 6 months ago

While the outgoing council dug their own grave, they allowed Brenner to run amok without any opposition. As an aside, I loved the comments from them in yesterday's paper. I guess their defeat was really our fault since our community wasn't as smart as they were and we're still behind the learning curve as far as they're concerned. Talk about taking responsibility and hubris!

Should Brenner continue to seek higher office, he's going to find it a tough hill to climb. First, he will loose his own county and in order to win any higher office he will therefore have to win a clear majority in other counties that are dominated by the oil, gas and energy industries. Since when has he ever been considered a friend to those entities?

Additionally, he will have to have the backing of the Democratic party and I strongly believe that they will take a hands off approach as his reputation has spread far a wide.


Matthew Stoddard 9 years, 6 months ago

PT22- without a workforce, which 2nd homeowners don't contribute to, there will be no neighbors at the doors I knock on, since city services will dwindle. Can't have a town without a workforce. It's a symbiotic relationship.

Take the military today. When I was active, the goal was to be able to fight 2 wars simutaneously, just as were are currently doing. Military recruiting standards are dropping by giving more waivers. See the chart:

"Fewer than 3 in 10 people ages 17 to 24 are fully qualified to join the Army. That means they have a high school diploma, have met aptitude test score requirements and fitness levels, and would not be barred for medical reasons, their sexual orientation or their criminal histories." Whoa! Don't ask, don't tell about that, eh?

This has been due to burnt out soldiers who get have more time overseas than in the rear, without seeing family, friends, etc., so recruitment levels have been down or barely making quotas.

Yes, a labor shortage can increase productivity of the individual still working to cover shifts of the positions that can't be filled, based on the individual worker. That doesn't mean that if you have a company that requires 2 people to perform separate functions that 1 person can always handle both at a higher degree of productivity.

To fill in the "blahs:" 1 person is doing 2 people's jobs, while not getting paid for it. That usually means management is working everything so you can pay salary and no overtime. Service then suffers and the worker gets burnt out, possibly quitting. You can't be in 2 places at once: I can't drive a shuttle at the same time I'm checking in a guest, as an example. That means 1 of the 2 services suffer. That means people have a bad experience. That means they don't come back. That means less money in the sales tax revenue coffers. That means Steamboat loses money. That means businesses might close due to lack of visitors. That means Steamboat's ecomony suffers. That means we're stuck in the early 80's all over again.

Are you going to tell me that vacationers in general will just forget the awful service and keep coming back? Not in my line of business. That's relegated to the movies.

Again- your argument just boils down to "I won't contribute to keep the town thriving." That's bad business sense.


flyguyrye 9 years, 6 months ago

Kielbasa, you are on point. As the labor shortage continues services will continue to suffer. There is to much focus on seasonal help and STEAMBOAT WILL BE VAIL SOON. There is no avoiding it. We can change it and be different if we can keep " Steamboat Genuine" but that only truly comes from year round residents who love this valley, not a immigrant {legal or not} or seasonal help who is here until their job comes to an end. As for affordable housing keep the dream alive. As a comaprsion an individual with no experience can walk into a resort and make 10 -12 $ an hour that same individual can walk onto a construction site and make 16 - 19 $ Several people I know and myself have left resort work to make enough money to afford the so called affordable housing here in steamboat.


justathought 9 years, 6 months ago

kielbasa, we may not have any winter workers, Craig has already taken some of our workforce, we have to alter bus service because of labor shortages and you believe the taxpayers should build housing for a labor force to work for private businesses. On top of all these problems you want a rec center because [ An extra selling point furthers the desirability of a destination resort.], sounds like we need more workers not more tourists. You also said [Didn't putting Steamboat on the map make it more desirable to buy a house here, and doesn't that desirability increase the capacity for turning your home around and selling it for a higher profit?], some of us are not out to get rich on the backs of others, we actually buy a home we like, in a place we like, to live our lives. I just wish the government would leave us enough of our paychecks to do that.


rodcarew 9 years, 6 months ago

Matthew: your summary hits the nail on the head why an adequate stock of affordable housing is important to each and every person in this community.

Flyguyrye: you make a great point why we need "year around" workers who will work hard for the betterment of Steamboat, not just the foreign/seasonal ones who have no investment in this community and who are gone after 1 year.


momofthree 9 years, 6 months ago

There may be no reason for the community to supply affordable housing to business employees--the businesses can opt to pay more, or supply the housing themselves, to stay competitive--but there is a community need for teachers, nurses, firefighters, police officers and others who do not currently make enough to live in Steamboat. Their salaries are paid for by the community (or non-profits), and to keep them, the community needs to make a choice: Pay more, or supply housing.


Matthew Stoddard 9 years, 6 months ago

Flyguy- I can understand the change in positons you speak of. I know people who have done the same. And yes: we do need year round workers.

Turn the corner into the 2nd stretch to justathought: Year round workers are the ones who live here year round, so for that to happen, they need to be able to afford to live here with a family. More workers bring an opportunity for better services to offer for increased consumer business. By not having to commute as far, you increase the desirability of the job.

Lap 2 back to flyguy: Until that year-round workforce comes in, importing workers is the only option we have. By offering annexation to the West Steamboat area, we have the opportunity to collect a larger property tax base, allowing for more services...

3rd long stretch back to justathought: a better opportunity for more industries to cater not just to tourists, but to anyone, keeping the town in the

last corner to the finish line: This will allow people to be able to afford to stay in their homes longer, knowing they have a possible job that doesn't flucuate with the snow without having to sell off to break the backs of others coming to town, or to sell off and move to something larger/better if they want, without still being priced out. All those extra homes paying a property tax, had it been voted in, would have lessened the cost per person to fund added amenities, such as a Rec Center. Then, with the increase of people in town with them having an opportunity to spend money at a new Rec Center...ready???...more sales tax revenue!!!!

Just like a NASCAR race, it all goes round!


rodcarew 9 years, 6 months ago

sbvor: Why are their waiting lists for government or developer provided housing in Aspen? Because it's so damn popular and it's working: everyone who can't afford free market are clamoring to get in one, thus the need for lotteries. They can't build the affordable housing fast enough. If that's not evidence of success of the program, I don't know what is. Their not waiting in line for bread, bozo.


Matthew Stoddard 9 years, 6 months ago

Aaaaannnnd the Far-Right of the Living Dead speaks! Sbsnore has a lucid moment, if by lucid I mean repetitious.


Matthew Stoddard 9 years, 6 months ago

jlkar- Take note ^^^: that's how you wordplay on a person's handle! LOL!

Sorry- had to!


lowerprofile 9 years, 6 months ago

I can hardly believe so many of you are missing the obvious. Council put the Recreation Center on the ballot with a property tax because they KNEW IT WOULD FAIL. Many of them made it perfectly clear that they were not for the Rec Center, but they thought it would be best to let the community decide. They COULD have built the building without our vote with available city funds. How would that have been for you?

I wish they would have put the new community center on the ballot instead of shoving that down our throats. Perhaps the Iron Horse SHOULD have gone on the ballot.

If you don't trust elected officials, the best thing is to have the public decide.

It's trust that you and others were missing Towney. My advice to new council members is to not say what any particular group of people want to hear, but to LISTEN to what people want and act accordingly. (Oh yeah - and ignore Ken Brenner - nothing valuable to say).


Neil O'Keeffe 9 years, 6 months ago

All very interesting with valid points on each side. Let's just hope that the new "rookie" council can have an equally open debate on this subject. Because I think in one way or another it will have a direct impact on our economy. Just go to City Market or Safeway on any given day and see how overworked and underpaid presents itself in the aisles and produce section.

This is happening to some degree or another with every employer in the valley. If we are going to remain a tourism/sales tax based economy then we damn well better pay attention to the service that comes with the ham and eggs. The day's of offering next to nothing other than a minimum wage paycheck to get qualified employees are over. The incentives to get people to live and WORK here have to come from somewhere so why not let that source be both public and private. Finding the right mix will be the challenge of our future economic viability. BELIEVE!!!!


honestythebestpolicy 9 years, 6 months ago

I think the rec center initiative is part of the reason for the council losses, but not attributed only to having brought the conservative vote en mass. 80% is representative of all voters, not just conservatives. Maybe Towney and the other Coucilmember incumbents now wish they had utilized Recreational Needs Exploratory Committee (RNEC), a citizens group that was formed and appointed by Council prior their deciding whether or not to put a rec center on the ballot.

Maybe they remember being told by members of the RNEC group that the Parks and Recreation Department, who was charged with leading the Consultant Team (du jour) to a viable COMMUNITY solution, were not (capable of) leading that charge unbiasedly. That they were simply leading the Consultant Team to the behemoth solution that was come to (surprise?) that this community has now soundly rejected and having nothing to do with potential recreation partnerships and/or the uniqueness of Steamboat.

Council approved this ballot initiative after RNEC members informed them that Parks and Recreation had stifled the purpose of the RNEC group by controlling and censoring any opinion not in line with an all under one roof "consolidated" big box solution. And even after the headline leaked by Chris Wilson and/or City Manager Alan Lanning reading: "Committee recommends recreation facility with pools" when our Committee (RNEC) told Council it had not, in fact, endorsed that or any solution. When Alan Lanning was asked, he said that no one was going to be held accountalbe for that headline and that they (staff) never wanted the RNEC committee and was never about listening to anything it had to say.

Lesson to Council: When you advertise and go through a competitive process to appoint an advisory citizens group that are giving their time and expertise for free, don't just leave them at the mercy of a staff with an agenda that opposes the entire premise of that committee. Council basically ignored RNEC from start to finish.


honestythebestpolicy 9 years, 6 months ago

Who Council did listen to was the CCRC group who ends up being a special interest recreation group in cahoots with the Parks and Rec Department under the guised of a "community group". Lesson to Council: Beware of community groups that kick people out for not adhering to one opinion/solution and that are "unanimous". Community groups are always inclusive not exclusive; and communities are everything except unanimous.

The sad thing is that this "community group" ends up shooting the real needs of the community in the foot (or the heart?) with it's "let them eat cake" attitude. They misguidedly thought that the few of them knew the best interests of the entire community without asking or really taking the time and effort to find out, as they were advised is customary and prudent with community initiatives (duh?). They didn't even listen to their own survey, were mean to anyone that even tried to suggest something different, and then acted above reproach when they got meaness back. I am dreading having to endure the continued hostility from some of them because I stuck to my guns and also had to stand up for myself (and the other 80%) in the process.

Somehow my "passion" for expanded recreation in Steamboat was not as righteous and their "passion". I'm very glad I was kicked off of that ship. And as for my "honesty" montra that I have also been criticized for and made fun of, When did being honest become some kind of high-minded morality? It just comes naturally for many. Consider this: If you all would have tried to find a solution for the community with a truly open and honest process, would we be in this boat today? I don't think so. How sad to behave this way especially in a small town. I am sorry if f I got carried away at times too. It has been very frustrating.

I do kind of feel bad for Towney if he did lose his seat due to this, as he was the one that said of this proposal something like 'I don't question the need, just the creativity of the solution.'. That is my belief also.

Leslie Curley as if you didn't know


corduroy 9 years, 6 months ago

I was curious to see the election results. I cannot vote in Steamboat Springs any longer. I can't afford to live in town and moved to Stagecoach in October which is technically Oak Creek.

Kinda stinks to be a part of a town that doesn't really seem to want us local workers to be a part of it.


rodcarew 9 years, 6 months ago

sbvor: you equating waiting in line for affordable housing with waiting in line for bread is LAUGHABLE! While waiting in line for bread is proof of a failure on the part of a government, providing over 1,200 affordable units in a town where the average price of a home is over $3 million has to be considered a SUCCESS (by reasonable people, your company obviously excepted). Those are 1,200 people (or more) that would not be living there if not for these units. 1,200 people contributing to that community, not some other community downvalley.


Matthew Stoddard 9 years, 6 months ago

C'mon svbore- Where does the money come from to increase pay for workers. Easy question, but they may get harder as we go along. he says, waiting to spring the "clap trap."


Laurrelle Crawford 9 years, 6 months ago

Hi everyone,

I think, in your discussions of socialism, that you've left the point at issue.... the reason the former council members were ousted.

While I agree with many of your arguments, especially as to the many mistakes the council made, I believe that there was really only one main mistake and that was when, early in their appointments, they decided, in their Napoleonic arrogance, that it was their job to RUN the town, instead of SERVE it.

I hope that our new council will know the difference.

I also hope that the Planning Department, whose management members have taken their attitude and approach to residents from the old council, will take this change in government as the wake up call they need.


Neil O'Keeffe 9 years, 6 months ago

to honestythebestpolicy, thanks for your feedback, time and interest in finding a workable solution. Special interests seem to rule the day. Unfortunate! Believe!


ModernMiner 9 years, 6 months ago


I don't believe in socialism. However, in a town like Steamboat you must provide some type of affordable housing. This is a resort town -and some people must do the jobs that the smart, motivated, rich, trustfunders, entrepreneurs -can't and won't do. Why do you think two very successful cities (New York, and San Francisco) have rent control? They want to retain a diversified workforce within the city. Capitalists, blue-collar, and artists thrive in both cities.

Don't you get it? Not all people can be capitalists. It's the exact opposite to socialism - everyone is not even and they never will be. In this world there are people that are very smart, people that are very dumb, and all ranges of people in between. And even some of the smartest people I know are not thirsty for money -but they enjoy what they do 40+hrs a week & they serve the community.

I'm not in favor of making 50% of the housing affordable. And I know the program to "own" an affordable home has it's problems. But, we must make it livable for the people that have important jobs to do in Steamboat.

Do we really want the entire service industry of Steamboat to commute from Oak Creek, Craig, Hayden, and Stagecoach?


boater25 9 years, 6 months ago

to: Honestybestpolicy...aka Leslie's absolutely hilarious to read your babble...and to note that barely anyone has taken your bait and responded. Talk about SOUR need to take a good look in the mirror and remember how poorly you have behaved during this entire debacle and quit blaming the folks that worked very hard to respect the work of expert consultants and years of public input to do what is best for the community as a whole.


honestythebestpolicy 9 years, 6 months ago

No sour grapes here. If fact I feel totally vindicated that everthing I did and said has been proven true. Keep working on it though even though it doesn't sound like you've learned anything.


WZ 9 years, 6 months ago

As evident by the voting results of the Old Town, Brooklyn and Fairview districts, where the majority of people who live in those districts have lived in Steamboat for 10+ years, everything that Towny and the incumbents stand for advanced profoundly.

But, as the population and demographics of Steamboat evolves, that is no longer the case.

Who's ever saying Steamboat's community is "still the same" is out of touch and fooling themselves.

Towny and incumbents, you had all better keep in the faces of this new council and at the forefront of community issues.

Just because you don't have a vote anymore, doesn't mean what you stand for nor influence is nil.

The true core of Steamboat will back you, in ways that will eat at the soul of this new council.

These next two years of Steamboat City Council will be like the last four years of the Bush administration.

Like a kidney stone, they will be painful, but they'll eventually pass.

In two years time, the citizens of Steamboat will realized the grave mistake they made with their votes in the 2007 election year, much like the entire population of the United States realized in 2007 of the mistake of their vote in 2004.

Viva Steamboat!


Matthew Stoddard 9 years, 6 months ago

C'mon sbhor- Answer my question: How does an employer pay employees more? Are you just not versed in this, or what?

Do I have to start a "Vigil" for you to answer a question, just like you did? If you can't do something this simple, how do you expect anyone to give you credence?


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