Didn't you here the guy say, "this is the only place you'll read about this" (pointing to his book)
??
By the way, I looked up his book "The Energy non-crisis"
By the way, the little paperback book he is holding. Guess what it's worth. I'm going to try and buy a copy, because it will get more valuable. I know, I used to deal used books..
Aside from the fact that we have quite a bit of oil to go through yet, we need to think about our imediate environment. Have you ever been to Denver on a hot summer day. Air quality, Water quality and on and on....
We need cleaner motors. We need solar panels on every roof. We need wind farms and solar farms. We need renewable power. We need this kind of technology to help us clean up the air and water not because we are dangerously low on crude oil.
With that being said,
There is a natural progression to the advent and distribution of technology. It will come. There are more alternate and hybrid vehicles on the road this year than there were last. The cost of solar panel production goes down a little every year. Solar farms are few but the wind farm idea is catching on. As a people the idea of a more renewable use of power and resouces has entered into the dialog. We will have more fo this kind of thing as time goes by. Its a good thing.
What we can't do is hamstring industry with excessive legislature and regulation. By all means take steps to bring industry into a cleaner operation but don't put them out of business in the process.
424 is correct, we do need to build more of these things that will free us from our dependency on oil. However, most cannot be built without oil because of the of the infrastructure of most of the current factories that create these things. Then there is the oil that is required to transport solar panels and wind generators to their ultimate destination.
Even if this country decided to build more nuclear energy plants that would require oil to excavate, transport materials, etc.
With that being said, should we be using the remaining oil available to start creating those things necessary to be independent of oil?
There is more to this whole thing than just transportation and the vehicles we drive. A hybrid vehicle is great but it won't heat and light your home!
424now has outlined the major alternate energy tech I was thinking of. Hydro electric is a good one too. There are major environmental impacts that come with that tech. Swamp an entire valley and your gonna wipe something out. A good example of this is the Hetch hetchy valley that was swamped and now is a man-made lake just north of Yosemite in CA. They say it was a valley of comparable natural beauty to Yosemite. "They" being the park rangers that give you the tour.
Fuel-cell vehicles are an interesting means of vehicular transport. I like the idea of water being the exhaust byproduct.
Then of course there is the holy grail of energy, Fission. I don't have high hopes for that in the near future.
Here is what keeps me hopeful, everyone thought automobiles were a passing fad until they caught on.
A majority of people thought Bell was wasting his time with that telephone thing.
As Steamboatconcience points out some of the technology looks and smells a little funky at first but hey, I can handle a little funk as opposed to a nuclear plant. Those things give me the heebe jeebes. The byproduct is simply too destructive in nature.
I like the idea of solar panels on every roof. Take it a step further though, make the roofing material out of photoelectric materials. make the paint, siding and shutter photoelectric on the sun-side of every new building. Every time a roof, paint and shutters go on a building the grid gets a little larger. Instead of AC delivering the juice to a house and a majority of the devices having to rectify it to DC the devices could be 12VDC to begin with.
All those little rectifiers out of a job.
As time goes by the devices move to a more solid state complete assembly. The new computer entertainment systems are a good example. A single computer will replace your VCR-DVD-Satellite/Cable Box. Then the only time you will need to use a motor is when you will want a hard copy of something. You will have one low voltage device handling all your entertainment media. Then this can be displayed on the next-gen LCD panels they will use even less energy than their current low levels.
Eventually enough DC is generated by the buildings themselves that scaling back large scale AC electrical production becomes a viable option. Perhaps we keep it at the same levels and figure out a way to use the AC to benefit us in a new way. These are just a few of the possibilities I can think of off the top of my head. Their are many higher qualified technicians out their right now working on ideas that are going to change our world.
I did say technicians as I was one a long time ago. Engineers may think it up but its the technicians that make it work.
I sign 2 leases on my land in oklahoma that will start drilling in about 2 months they took me to court and were going to put a restaining order against me ,look another native american looses again. thats me!
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ColoradoNative 5 years, 3 months ago
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&q=the+energy+n
Watch this video. It gets very interesting at the end when he starts to expose the full story of who is really making the money.
stompk 5 years, 3 months ago
Umm, wow!!
Bingo!. Here we sit, on the verge of economic collapse, wondering, "who killed the electric car"?
By far the best video on the internet.
Thanks for sharing.
Wow.
ColoradoNative 5 years, 3 months ago
SBVOR...
Why do you think we crushed Iraq? It wasn't because of WMD obviously. It was because Saddam was threatening to sell cheap oil in Euros.
Iran has threatened to do the same. That is why they are on our war list.
The American $ is tied to the price of oil. Do I need to keep spelling out how this works for you? I sure hope not.
stompk 5 years, 3 months ago
sbvor, I believe the man in the video.
Didn't you here the guy say, "this is the only place you'll read about this" (pointing to his book) ?? By the way, I looked up his book "The Energy non-crisis"
By the way, the little paperback book he is holding. Guess what it's worth. I'm going to try and buy a copy, because it will get more valuable. I know, I used to deal used books..
http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&qi=36U1P8FgVUvoIM2iUm36F,GCtR0_5454029872_1:121:919
andymanout 5 years, 3 months ago
It's the nature of people in power to do everything in their power to retain said power.
However,
You won't catch me complaining about the overdue development of alternate energy sources.
stompk 5 years, 2 months ago
Betting on the downfall of America.
Found this Reuters article.
"One of the fastest growing bets in the oil market these days is that the price of crude could double to $200 a barrel by the end of 2008. The options to buy oil for $200 on the New York Mercantile Exchange rose 10-fold in the past two months to 5,533 contracts, a record increase for any similar period." Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/blogBurst/investing?type=hotStocksNews&w1=B7ovpm21IaDoL40ZFnNfGe&w2=B7pJeHult9GszE37UXlSpmUm&src=blogBurst_investingNews&bbPostId=Cz5v9F6OkMOwGCzF57uNRjB2uLB2IROmcaRf2GCzDvoHxIClQo2&bbParentWidgetId=B7gSUbux1hpbz8uOa7TWsLnV
424now 5 years, 2 months ago
Thread,
Alternate Energy!
Aside from the fact that we have quite a bit of oil to go through yet, we need to think about our imediate environment. Have you ever been to Denver on a hot summer day. Air quality, Water quality and on and on....
We need cleaner motors. We need solar panels on every roof. We need wind farms and solar farms. We need renewable power. We need this kind of technology to help us clean up the air and water not because we are dangerously low on crude oil.
With that being said,
There is a natural progression to the advent and distribution of technology. It will come. There are more alternate and hybrid vehicles on the road this year than there were last. The cost of solar panel production goes down a little every year. Solar farms are few but the wind farm idea is catching on. As a people the idea of a more renewable use of power and resouces has entered into the dialog. We will have more fo this kind of thing as time goes by. Its a good thing.
What we can't do is hamstring industry with excessive legislature and regulation. By all means take steps to bring industry into a cleaner operation but don't put them out of business in the process.
OnTheBusGus 5 years, 2 months ago
424 is correct, we do need to build more of these things that will free us from our dependency on oil. However, most cannot be built without oil because of the of the infrastructure of most of the current factories that create these things. Then there is the oil that is required to transport solar panels and wind generators to their ultimate destination. Even if this country decided to build more nuclear energy plants that would require oil to excavate, transport materials, etc. With that being said, should we be using the remaining oil available to start creating those things necessary to be independent of oil? There is more to this whole thing than just transportation and the vehicles we drive. A hybrid vehicle is great but it won't heat and light your home!
steamboatsconscience 5 years, 2 months ago
one word algae. http://oakhavenpc.org/cultivating_algae.htm one more word abiotic http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/peakoil1.html
andymanout 5 years, 2 months ago
sbvor,
424now has outlined the major alternate energy tech I was thinking of. Hydro electric is a good one too. There are major environmental impacts that come with that tech. Swamp an entire valley and your gonna wipe something out. A good example of this is the Hetch hetchy valley that was swamped and now is a man-made lake just north of Yosemite in CA. They say it was a valley of comparable natural beauty to Yosemite. "They" being the park rangers that give you the tour.
Fuel-cell vehicles are an interesting means of vehicular transport. I like the idea of water being the exhaust byproduct.
Then of course there is the holy grail of energy, Fission. I don't have high hopes for that in the near future.
Here is what keeps me hopeful, everyone thought automobiles were a passing fad until they caught on. A majority of people thought Bell was wasting his time with that telephone thing. As Steamboatconcience points out some of the technology looks and smells a little funky at first but hey, I can handle a little funk as opposed to a nuclear plant. Those things give me the heebe jeebes. The byproduct is simply too destructive in nature.
I like the idea of solar panels on every roof. Take it a step further though, make the roofing material out of photoelectric materials. make the paint, siding and shutter photoelectric on the sun-side of every new building. Every time a roof, paint and shutters go on a building the grid gets a little larger. Instead of AC delivering the juice to a house and a majority of the devices having to rectify it to DC the devices could be 12VDC to begin with.
All those little rectifiers out of a job.
As time goes by the devices move to a more solid state complete assembly. The new computer entertainment systems are a good example. A single computer will replace your VCR-DVD-Satellite/Cable Box. Then the only time you will need to use a motor is when you will want a hard copy of something. You will have one low voltage device handling all your entertainment media. Then this can be displayed on the next-gen LCD panels they will use even less energy than their current low levels.
Eventually enough DC is generated by the buildings themselves that scaling back large scale AC electrical production becomes a viable option. Perhaps we keep it at the same levels and figure out a way to use the AC to benefit us in a new way. These are just a few of the possibilities I can think of off the top of my head. Their are many higher qualified technicians out their right now working on ideas that are going to change our world.
I did say technicians as I was one a long time ago. Engineers may think it up but its the technicians that make it work.
Andyman Out!
OnTheBusGus 5 years, 2 months ago
Andyman, When I was a tech in the Army we had a saying: "someone shoot the engineer and lets get on with the project"
BTW, good ideas!!
StarTrek_Shakespeare 5 years, 2 months ago
all i'm gonna say is that oil is already ridiculously underpriced.
oofcboy 5 years, 2 months ago
I sign 2 leases on my land in oklahoma that will start drilling in about 2 months they took me to court and were going to put a restaining order against me ,look another native american looses again. thats me!
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